CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:At some point we have to accept we're gonna lose some folks. Right now we've lost 17 jobs for every case of COVID19. 8000 people die every day in America. 3M per year. Losing 250K from COVID19 would just be a blip, because not all of those deaths would be "extra", some amount would have happened this year anyway.

The misery in peoples lives due to poverty is going to top any death toll we can get here.

X 1000. We have collectively lost our minds.

Losing 250,000 is what happens if we do what we are doing RIGHT NOW until the summertime at least. That also assumes we have some way to stop being at home without transmitting it to everyone after that point. With a conservative Case Fatality Rate of 0.5%, if everyone in the USA got infected (330,000,000 people), 1,650,000 would die. That's not a blip. That's over half again as much as die from any cause in a year. And when you consider everyone getting sick over a short period, there really would be people dying in the streets with no one to transport their bodies.

But your math isn’t providing how many of those are elderly and on death’s door anyway. It matters. Despite the fear mongering, this is a virus that kills markedly few young healthy people.

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Anonymous wrote:Why were Nancy and Chuck mad when Trump cut off flights from China?

Because it didn't make sense. If he had shared information explaining the situation or his plan, that would have been good. But he didn't.

Also, you spelled Donald wrong.

Did you hear Nancy or Chuck saying they didn't understand why the President had to cut flights from China?

If The Donald wants to act like a dictator instead of a leader, well, he's in the wrong country.

He's doing it wrong. Too bad. This could have been his time to shine. He didn't.

And yet his approval ratings are up so apparently some disagree with you.

His approval rates are up because he's been talking non stop to his base. Red states have not been hit as hard yet. Just wait that will change.

And it also proves our school systems and Churches have failed. Thou Shall Not Lie yet he lies daily???? School systems apparently people can not do subtraction. Trump's salary minus what he owes taxpayers, he's completely in the red.

So sure let's keep a liar and cheat in office. Do you see the wall in Mexico, being paid by Mexico? Tax returns? He said, "We have this under control" Well????? He's lied about medicines, medical staff, medical supplies. Supporting him now is showing how stupid the US population has become.

No Trump is gone come November. Those red states are toast.

I’m a democrat, but you’ve missed the point. Democrats are providing rich person solutions: just huddle in your McMansion with lots of food for 18 months. Indefinite quarantine spells absolute disaster for most American families. Trumps approval ratings are up (despite his idiocy) because he understands that the economy must reopen fast and articulates that.

Exactly. Regular Americans in small homes can't put up with house arrest much longer. Trump gets it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why were Nancy and Chuck mad when Trump cut off flights from China?

Because it didn't make sense. If he had shared information explaining the situation or his plan, that would have been good. But he didn't.

Also, you spelled Donald wrong.

Did you hear Nancy or Chuck saying they didn't understand why the President had to cut flights from China?

If The Donald wants to act like a dictator instead of a leader, well, he's in the wrong country.

He's doing it wrong. Too bad. This could have been his time to shine. He didn't.

And yet his approval ratings are up so apparently some disagree with you.

His approval rates are up because he's been talking non stop to his base. Red states have not been hit as hard yet. Just wait that will change.

And it also proves our school systems and Churches have failed. Thou Shall Not Lie yet he lies daily???? School systems apparently people can not do subtraction. Trump's salary minus what he owes taxpayers, he's completely in the red.

So sure let's keep a liar and cheat in office. Do you see the wall in Mexico, being paid by Mexico? Tax returns? He said, "We have this under control" Well????? He's lied about medicines, medical staff, medical supplies. Supporting him now is showing how stupid the US population has become.

No Trump is gone come November. Those red states are toast.

I’m a democrat, but you’ve missed the point. Democrats are providing rich person solutions: just huddle in your McMansion with lots of food for 18 months. Indefinite quarantine spells absolute disaster for most American families. Trumps approval ratings are up (despite his idiocy) because he understands that the economy must reopen fast and articulates that.

He's not articulate. "Big" "Bigger" "Tremendous" "Fake news" "Hoax" "We have it under control" "Hope by Easter" "I always knew it was a Pandemic" "It's not something to worry about" "We have it handled" "It's not my fault" "Nobody knew it would be a Pandemic" "It's going to disappear one day like a miracle " (that one like Easter playing to his stupid base) "Anybody that needs a test gets a test" "Americans will have access to vaccines, very soon" All of these quotes can be easily found on the internet and fact checked.

And he only cares about a few things, his gravy train has run out ie his properties getting out of the red because of taxpayers, re election and being a racist. Mostly this is about money for him. Greatest marketing scam ever and 50% of the population fell for it and now the rest of us will pay with losing family members because we elected a reality star.

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And that infant that supposedly died of covid... likely didn’t

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-infant-death-coronavirus-positive-20200404-54z75ceqzfei7ajtwskc4ncrua-story.html%3foutputType=amp

[Anonymous]

I detest the president but If the best democrats can offer is huddle in place they’ll lose badly come November

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why were Nancy and Chuck mad when Trump cut off flights from China?

Because it didn't make sense. If he had shared information explaining the situation or his plan, that would have been good. But he didn't.

Also, you spelled Donald wrong.

Did you hear Nancy or Chuck saying they didn't understand why the President had to cut flights from China?

If The Donald wants to act like a dictator instead of a leader, well, he's in the wrong country.

He's doing it wrong. Too bad. This could have been his time to shine. He didn't.

And yet his approval ratings are up so apparently some disagree with you.

His approval rates are up because he's been talking non stop to his base. Red states have not been hit as hard yet. Just wait that will change.

And it also proves our school systems and Churches have failed. Thou Shall Not Lie yet he lies daily???? School systems apparently people can not do subtraction. Trump's salary minus what he owes taxpayers, he's completely in the red.

So sure let's keep a liar and cheat in office. Do you see the wall in Mexico, being paid by Mexico? Tax returns? He said, "We have this under control" Well????? He's lied about medicines, medical staff, medical supplies. Supporting him now is showing how stupid the US population has become.

No Trump is gone come November. Those red states are toast.

I’m a democrat, but you’ve missed the point. Democrats are providing rich person solutions: just huddle in your McMansion with lots of food for 18 months. Indefinite quarantine spells absolute disaster for most American families. Trumps approval ratings are up (despite his idiocy) because he understands that the economy must reopen fast and articulates that.

He's not articulate. "Big" "Bigger" "Tremendous" "Fake news" "Hoax" "We have it under control" "Hope by Easter" "I always knew it was a Pandemic" "It's not something to worry about" "We have it handled" "It's not my fault" "Nobody knew it would be a Pandemic" "It's going to disappear one day like a miracle " (that one like Easter playing to his stupid base) "Anybody that needs a test gets a test" "Americans will have access to vaccines, very soon" All of these quotes can be easily found on the internet and fact checked.

And he only cares about a few things, his gravy train has run out ie his properties getting out of the red because of taxpayers, re election and being a racist. Mostly this is about money for him. Greatest marketing scam ever and 50% of the population fell for it and now the rest of us will pay with losing family members because we elected a reality star.

I’m not a trumper. I despise him as much as you. That’s not my point. My point is that he voices an understanding of the fact that we CANNOT quarantine indefinitely. Democrats stance is that everyone should hang in the manse for 18 months. For poor and middle class Americans, staying home generally means losing your job and falling into a really scary depraved poverty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At some point we have to accept we're gonna lose some folks. Right now we've lost 17 jobs for every case of COVID19. 8000 people die every day in America. 3M per year. Losing 250K from COVID19 would just be a blip, because not all of those deaths would be "extra", some amount would have happened this year anyway.

The misery in peoples lives due to poverty is going to top any death toll we can get here.

X 1000. We have collectively lost our minds.

Losing 250,000 is what happens if we do what we are doing RIGHT NOW until the summertime at least. That also assumes we have some way to stop being at home without transmitting it to everyone after that point. With a conservative Case Fatality Rate of 0.5%, if everyone in the USA got infected (330,000,000 people), 1,650,000 would die. That's not a blip. That's over half again as much as die from any cause in a year. And when you consider everyone getting sick over a short period, there really would be people dying in the streets with no one to transport their bodies.

But your math isn’t providing how many of those are elderly and on death’s door anyway. It matters. Despite the fear mongering, this is a virus that kills markedly few young healthy people.

I feel like you’re ignoring the reality on the ground. Even with stay-at-home orders, and hospitals treating as many people as they can, people in NYC are dropping dead so fast that they can’t catch up on cremating or burying them. What would that look like if we all just threw our hands up and said, “Ok, y’all just die, we’re not going to do anything about it”? We’d just leave the bodies on the street like they’re doing in Ecuador? Would that be good for the economy? You can’t I ring the bell. The choice isn’t lock down and wreck the economy, or don’t lock down and the economy will be fine. The virus is here, and our economy will be wrecked one way or the other.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/nyc-crematories-backed-up-as-coronavirus-deaths-surge/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ecuador-bodies-streets-guayaquil-coronavirus-covid-19/

[Anonymous]

Eager to see how fast our manufacturing comes home. Americans will need jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why were Nancy and Chuck mad when Trump cut off flights from China?

Because it didn't make sense. If he had shared information explaining the situation or his plan, that would have been good. But he didn't.

Also, you spelled Donald wrong.

Did you hear Nancy or Chuck saying they didn't understand why the President had to cut flights from China?

If The Donald wants to act like a dictator instead of a leader, well, he's in the wrong country.

He's doing it wrong. Too bad. This could have been his time to shine. He didn't.

And yet his approval ratings are up so apparently some disagree with you.

His approval rates are up because he's been talking non stop to his base. Red states have not been hit as hard yet. Just wait that will change.

And it also proves our school systems and Churches have failed. Thou Shall Not Lie yet he lies daily???? School systems apparently people can not do subtraction. Trump's salary minus what he owes taxpayers, he's completely in the red.

So sure let's keep a liar and cheat in office. Do you see the wall in Mexico, being paid by Mexico? Tax returns? He said, "We have this under control" Well????? He's lied about medicines, medical staff, medical supplies. Supporting him now is showing how stupid the US population has become.

No Trump is gone come November. Those red states are toast.

I’m a democrat, but you’ve missed the point. Democrats are providing rich person solutions: just huddle in your McMansion with lots of food for 18 months. Indefinite quarantine spells absolute disaster for most American families. Trumps approval ratings are up (despite his idiocy) because he understands that the economy must reopen fast and articulates that.

He's not articulate. "Big" "Bigger" "Tremendous" "Fake news" "Hoax" "We have it under control" "Hope by Easter" "I always knew it was a Pandemic" "It's not something to worry about" "We have it handled" "It's not my fault" "Nobody knew it would be a Pandemic" "It's going to disappear one day like a miracle " (that one like Easter playing to his stupid base) "Anybody that needs a test gets a test" "Americans will have access to vaccines, very soon" All of these quotes can be easily found on the internet and fact checked.

And he only cares about a few things, his gravy train has run out ie his properties getting out of the red because of taxpayers, re election and being a racist. Mostly this is about money for him. Greatest marketing scam ever and 50% of the population fell for it and now the rest of us will pay with losing family members because we elected a reality star.

I’m not a trumper. I despise him as much as you. That’s not my point. My point is that he voices an understanding of the fact that we CANNOT quarantine indefinitely. Democrats stance is that everyone should hang in the manse for 18 months. For poor and middle class Americans, staying home generally means losing your job and falling into a really scary depraved poverty.

Did anyone say to stay at home for 18 months?? Not that I'm aware of. It's currently the BIPARTISAN effort to stay at home -- not sure why you're making this political. To the extent anyone has a coherent plan to end this, it's not by just staying at home, but by going full speed ahead on testing, therepeutic, and vaccine development, as well as contract tracing and isolation of new clusters. If Trump has an understanding of how we exit this, he should spell it out.

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What's your suggestion, 15:34? DP.

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Anonymous wrote:What's your suggestion, 15:34? DP.

umm ... what I wrote: " To the extent anyone has a coherent plan to end this, it's not by just staying at home, but by going full speed ahead on testing, therepeutic, and vaccine development, as well as contract tracing and isolation of new clusters."

People acting like it's stay at home or do nothing aren't understanding the situation. There's MUCH more we can (must!) be doing than staying at home, and to reopen the country, yet nobody is articulating it on a federal level.

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Anonymous wrote:What's your suggestion, 15:34? DP.

umm ... what I wrote: " To the extent anyone has a coherent plan to end this, it's not by just staying at home, but by going full speed ahead on testing, therepeutic, and vaccine development, as well as contract tracing and isolation of new clusters."

People acting like it's stay at home or do nothing aren't understanding the situation. There's MUCH more we can (must!) be doing than staying at home, and to reopen the country, yet nobody is articulating it on a federal level.

I agree that state politicians need to voice their exit plan. One mandate for the entire country is not wise.

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Anonymous wrote:What's your suggestion, 15:34? DP.

umm ... what I wrote: " To the extent anyone has a coherent plan to end this, it's not by just staying at home, but by going full speed ahead on testing, therepeutic, and vaccine development, as well as contract tracing and isolation of new clusters."

People acting like it's stay at home or do nothing aren't understanding the situation. There's MUCH more we can (must!) be doing than staying at home, and to reopen the country, yet nobody is articulating it on a federal level.

I agree that state politicians need to voice their exit plan. One mandate for the entire country is not wise.

I don't think it would be wise to articulate the exit plan right now. For one, we have to wait and see how the next week or two goes. Second, if you start outlining what we'll do post-quarantine, people will be inclined to start doing it now. OK, we can all go shopping if we wear masks and gloves, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:What's your suggestion, 15:34? DP.

umm ... what I wrote: " To the extent anyone has a coherent plan to end this, it's not by just staying at home, but by going full speed ahead on testing, therepeutic, and vaccine development, as well as contract tracing and isolation of new clusters."

People acting like it's stay at home or do nothing aren't understanding the situation. There's MUCH more we can (must!) be doing than staying at home, and to reopen the country, yet nobody is articulating it on a federal level.

I agree that state politicians need to voice their exit plan. One mandate for the entire country is not wise.

I don't think it would be wise to articulate the exit plan right now. For one, we have to wait and see how the next week or two goes. Second, if you start outlining what we'll do post-quarantine, people will be inclined to start doing it now. OK, we can all go shopping if we wear masks and gloves, etc.

If states refuse to start discussing a plan, people will plan for themselves.

You just can't lock people out of their jobs indefinitely.

[Anonymous]

Just on the NHK news, Japan will declare a national emergency as early as tomorrow.