DA vs ECNL vs everything else

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to know if a club really develops talent all you have to do is look at the teams current make up and figure out where they came from.

Lets take FCV for example. Their 1st ever U9, U10, U11, U12, and U13 group started five years ago. Everything up until that time at FCV was only ECNL (U14 and above). That aforementioned group is now U14, U15, U16, U17, U18.

How many of those kids on the current DA teams do you think came from the original age group pools?

Answer: Very Few.


Like 15% to 20%? I guess stealing kids from other clubs is their forte. However, with other DA's and ECNL teams within close proximity, it will likely hurt their ability to woo parents/kids to their club.


Never said they stole kids. Parents bring their kids to them. In search of the winning team. FCV has pick of the litter. That's why they can discard talent left and right. It get replenished. It will continue to get replenished. That's why parents and players get emotionally drained in these hyper competitive environments.
Always on the chopping block.


Their ability to recruit will be put to the test in the coming seasons as many clubs around them also offer pathways that were once far more limited when there was only ECNL and McLean was the only other choice. With talent spread across more clubs than ever FCV, as well as other clubs, will actually have to develop and retain talent. It will remain to be seen if FCV can have continued success in this new landscape.


Winning team always attracts the top talent. ALWAYS! As long as they are winning, everyone is happy. You are overplaying the draw of ECNL in this area. It will not do what you think it will do. DA is the top option in NOVA going forward. The ECNL teams next year will be weaker then they were this year...and this year was weaker than last year. That's the trend going forward. In my humble opinion.



Would be interesting to know how many Loudoun 05,06,07 from Red teams left their upcoming ECNL teams to go to either FCV or WS DA? Or how many 05,06,07 McLean or BRYC players left (I know McLean 05 may be a bit of an anomaly as several are jumping ship for WS DA, presumably following Spencer) Anyone have insight? Those numbers would at least be the foundational statistics needed to confirm or negate the statement above that ECNL will continue to get weaker.


DONE - Loudoun 05's already jumped ship
DONE - Mclean 05's jumped ship

BRYC 05 is winless in ECNL, so don't know their plans. I assume they will jump from that team.



How many Loudoun 05s jumped ship? I only know of one going to FCV, who else is leaving? Any going to WS? The ones that left mid season do not count of course.

Loudoun 06 Red - no one left for FCV or WS DA, same for 07 (however I do not think any of them would have made FCV 06 DA, but Spirit 06 DA yes, from what I hear everyone that even showed up got an offer).


From your last two statements alone, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
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McLean 05s went to Arlington
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Anonymous wrote:If you want to know if a club really develops talent all you have to do is look at the teams current make up and figure out where they came from.

Lets take FCV for example. Their 1st ever U9, U10, U11, U12, and U13 group started five years ago. Everything up until that time at FCV was only ECNL (U14 and above). That aforementioned group is now U14, U15, U16, U17, U18.

How many of those kids on the current DA teams do you think came from the original age group pools?

Answer: Very Few.


Like 15% to 20%? I guess stealing kids from other clubs is their forte. However, with other DA's and ECNL teams within close proximity, it will likely hurt their ability to woo parents/kids to their club.


Never said they stole kids. Parents bring their kids to them. In search of the winning team. FCV has pick of the litter. That's why they can discard talent left and right. It get replenished. It will continue to get replenished. That's why parents and players get emotionally drained in these hyper competitive environments.
Always on the chopping block.


Their ability to recruit will be put to the test in the coming seasons as many clubs around them also offer pathways that were once far more limited when there was only ECNL and McLean was the only other choice. With talent spread across more clubs than ever FCV, as well as other clubs, will actually have to develop and retain talent. It will remain to be seen if FCV can have continued success in this new landscape.


Winning team always attracts the top talent. ALWAYS! As long as they are winning, everyone is happy. You are overplaying the draw of ECNL in this area. It will not do what you think it will do. DA is the top option in NOVA going forward. The ECNL teams next year will be weaker then they were this year...and this year was weaker than last year. That's the trend going forward. In my humble opinion.



Would be interesting to know how many Loudoun 05,06,07 from Red teams left their upcoming ECNL teams to go to either FCV or WS DA? Or how many 05,06,07 McLean or BRYC players left (I know McLean 05 may be a bit of an anomaly as several are jumping ship for WS DA, presumably following Spencer) Anyone have insight? Those numbers would at least be the foundational statistics needed to confirm or negate the statement above that ECNL will continue to get weaker.


DONE - Loudoun 05's already jumped ship
DONE - Mclean 05's jumped ship

BRYC 05 is winless in ECNL, so don't know their plans. I assume they will jump from that team.



How many Loudoun 05s jumped ship? I only know of one going to FCV, who else is leaving? Any going to WS? The ones that left mid season do not count of course.

Loudoun 06 Red - no one left for FCV or WS DA, same for 07 (however I do not think any of them would have made FCV 06 DA, but Spirit 06 DA yes, from what I hear everyone that even showed up got an offer).


From your last two statements alone, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


I take it you know so much then? Loudoun 06 Red (to be ECNL in the fall) was going to get two players from FCV who decided to stay and play 06 DA. Loudoun 07 Red - no one left that team except 1, and she is not going to another club. WS 06/07 - everyone who tried out was extended and offer except 1. Now who doesn't know what they are talking about?

Unless you can back your claim up from above with better facts than these then I suggest you keep your trap shut.
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Anonymous wrote:McLean 05s went to Arlington


3 are headed to WS DA.
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Anonymous wrote:If you want to know if a club really develops talent all you have to do is look at the teams current make up and figure out where they came from.

Lets take FCV for example. Their 1st ever U9, U10, U11, U12, and U13 group started five years ago. Everything up until that time at FCV was only ECNL (U14 and above). That aforementioned group is now U14, U15, U16, U17, U18.

How many of those kids on the current DA teams do you think came from the original age group pools?

Answer: Very Few.


Like 15% to 20%? I guess stealing kids from other clubs is their forte. However, with other DA's and ECNL teams within close proximity, it will likely hurt their ability to woo parents/kids to their club.


Never said they stole kids. Parents bring their kids to them. In search of the winning team. FCV has pick of the litter. That's why they can discard talent left and right. It get replenished. It will continue to get replenished. That's why parents and players get emotionally drained in these hyper competitive environments.
Always on the chopping block.


Their ability to recruit will be put to the test in the coming seasons as many clubs around them also offer pathways that were once far more limited when there was only ECNL and McLean was the only other choice. With talent spread across more clubs than ever FCV, as well as other clubs, will actually have to develop and retain talent. It will remain to be seen if FCV can have continued success in this new landscape.


Winning team always attracts the top talent. ALWAYS! As long as they are winning, everyone is happy. You are overplaying the draw of ECNL in this area. It will not do what you think it will do. DA is the top option in NOVA going forward. The ECNL teams next year will be weaker then they were this year...and this year was weaker than last year. That's the trend going forward. In my humble opinion.



Would be interesting to know how many Loudoun 05,06,07 from Red teams left their upcoming ECNL teams to go to either FCV or WS DA? Or how many 05,06,07 McLean or BRYC players left (I know McLean 05 may be a bit of an anomaly as several are jumping ship for WS DA, presumably following Spencer) Anyone have insight? Those numbers would at least be the foundational statistics needed to confirm or negate the statement above that ECNL will continue to get weaker.


DONE - Loudoun 05's already jumped ship
DONE - Mclean 05's jumped ship

BRYC 05 is winless in ECNL, so don't know their plans. I assume they will jump from that team.



How many Loudoun 05s jumped ship? I only know of one going to FCV, who else is leaving? Any going to WS? The ones that left mid season do not count of course.

Loudoun 06 Red - no one left for FCV or WS DA, same for 07 (however I do not think any of them would have made FCV 06 DA, but Spirit 06 DA yes, from what I hear everyone that even showed up got an offer).


From your last two statements alone, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


I take it you know so much then? Loudoun 06 Red (to be ECNL in the fall) was going to get two players from FCV who decided to stay and play 06 DA. Loudoun 07 Red - no one left that team except 1, and she is not going to another club. WS 06/07 - everyone who tried out was extended and offer except 1. Now who doesn't know what they are talking about?

Unless you can back your claim up from above with better facts than these then I suggest you keep your trap shut.


LMAO Internet tough guy. You are full of shit. As for keeping my mouth shut, name the time and place and we'll talk. Since you know so much about Loudoun, feel free to check the DA rosters next year to see where the players went.
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Anonymous wrote:If you want to know if a club really develops talent all you have to do is look at the teams current make up and figure out where they came from.

Lets take FCV for example. Their 1st ever U9, U10, U11, U12, and U13 group started five years ago. Everything up until that time at FCV was only ECNL (U14 and above). That aforementioned group is now U14, U15, U16, U17, U18.

How many of those kids on the current DA teams do you think came from the original age group pools?

Answer: Very Few.


Like 15% to 20%? I guess stealing kids from other clubs is their forte. However, with other DA's and ECNL teams within close proximity, it will likely hurt their ability to woo parents/kids to their club.


Never said they stole kids. Parents bring their kids to them. In search of the winning team. FCV has pick of the litter. That's why they can discard talent left and right. It get replenished. It will continue to get replenished. That's why parents and players get emotionally drained in these hyper competitive environments.
Always on the chopping block.


Their ability to recruit will be put to the test in the coming seasons as many clubs around them also offer pathways that were once far more limited when there was only ECNL and McLean was the only other choice. With talent spread across more clubs than ever FCV, as well as other clubs, will actually have to develop and retain talent. It will remain to be seen if FCV can have continued success in this new landscape.


Winning team always attracts the top talent. ALWAYS! As long as they are winning, everyone is happy. You are overplaying the draw of ECNL in this area. It will not do what you think it will do. DA is the top option in NOVA going forward. The ECNL teams next year will be weaker then they were this year...and this year was weaker than last year. That's the trend going forward. In my humble opinion.



Would be interesting to know how many Loudoun 05,06,07 from Red teams left their upcoming ECNL teams to go to either FCV or WS DA? Or how many 05,06,07 McLean or BRYC players left (I know McLean 05 may be a bit of an anomaly as several are jumping ship for WS DA, presumably following Spencer) Anyone have insight? Those numbers would at least be the foundational statistics needed to confirm or negate the statement above that ECNL will continue to get weaker.


DONE - Loudoun 05's already jumped ship
DONE - Mclean 05's jumped ship

BRYC 05 is winless in ECNL, so don't know their plans. I assume they will jump from that team.



How many Loudoun 05s jumped ship? I only know of one going to FCV, who else is leaving? Any going to WS? The ones that left mid season do not count of course.

Loudoun 06 Red - no one left for FCV or WS DA, same for 07 (however I do not think any of them would have made FCV 06 DA, but Spirit 06 DA yes, from what I hear everyone that even showed up got an offer).


From your last two statements alone, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


I take it you know so much then? Loudoun 06 Red (to be ECNL in the fall) was going to get two players from FCV who decided to stay and play 06 DA. Loudoun 07 Red - no one left that team except 1, and she is not going to another club. WS 06/07 - everyone who tried out was extended and offer except 1. Now who doesn't know what they are talking about?

Unless you can back your claim up from above with better facts than these then I suggest you keep your trap shut.


LMAO Internet tough guy. You are full of shit. As for keeping my mouth shut, name the time and place and we'll talk. Since you know so much about Loudoun, feel free to check the DA rosters next year to see where the players went.


All you have done is tell me I know nothing yet you have provided absolutely no substance to back up your claims. If you know so much, please enlighten us....
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Did Loudoun Red girls 05 lose players to FCV? Is that why Loudoun Red 05 dropped off this season? Did FCV 05 girls merge with an outside team? I still don't know why there are so many FCV haters.
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Anonymous wrote:If you want to know if a club really develops talent all you have to do is look at the teams current make up and figure out where they came from.

Lets take FCV for example. Their 1st ever U9, U10, U11, U12, and U13 group started five years ago. Everything up until that time at FCV was only ECNL (U14 and above). That aforementioned group is now U14, U15, U16, U17, U18.

How many of those kids on the current DA teams do you think came from the original age group pools?

Answer: Very Few.


Like 15% to 20%? I guess stealing kids from other clubs is their forte. However, with other DA's and ECNL teams within close proximity, it will likely hurt their ability to woo parents/kids to their club.


Never said they stole kids. Parents bring their kids to them. In search of the winning team. FCV has pick of the litter. That's why they can discard talent left and right. It get replenished. It will continue to get replenished. That's why parents and players get emotionally drained in these hyper competitive environments.
Always on the chopping block.


Their ability to recruit will be put to the test in the coming seasons as many clubs around them also offer pathways that were once far more limited when there was only ECNL and McLean was the only other choice. With talent spread across more clubs than ever FCV, as well as other clubs, will actually have to develop and retain talent. It will remain to be seen if FCV can have continued success in this new landscape.


Winning team always attracts the top talent. ALWAYS! As long as they are winning, everyone is happy. You are overplaying the draw of ECNL in this area. It will not do what you think it will do. DA is the top option in NOVA going forward. The ECNL teams next year will be weaker then they were this year...and this year was weaker than last year. That's the trend going forward. In my humble opinion.



Would be interesting to know how many Loudoun 05,06,07 from Red teams left their upcoming ECNL teams to go to either FCV or WS DA? Or how many 05,06,07 McLean or BRYC players left (I know McLean 05 may be a bit of an anomaly as several are jumping ship for WS DA, presumably following Spencer) Anyone have insight? Those numbers would at least be the foundational statistics needed to confirm or negate the statement above that ECNL will continue to get weaker.


DONE - Loudoun 05's already jumped ship
DONE - Mclean 05's jumped ship

BRYC 05 is winless in ECNL, so don't know their plans. I assume they will jump from that team.



How many Loudoun 05s jumped ship? I only know of one going to FCV, who else is leaving? Any going to WS? The ones that left mid season do not count of course.

Loudoun 06 Red - no one left for FCV or WS DA, same for 07 (however I do not think any of them would have made FCV 06 DA, but Spirit 06 DA yes, from what I hear everyone that even showed up got an offer).


From your last two statements alone, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


I take it you know so much then? Loudoun 06 Red (to be ECNL in the fall) was going to get two players from FCV who decided to stay and play 06 DA. Loudoun 07 Red - no one left that team except 1, and she is not going to another club. WS 06/07 - everyone who tried out was extended and offer except 1. Now who doesn't know what they are talking about?

Unless you can back your claim up from above with better facts than these then I suggest you keep your trap shut.


LMAO Internet tough guy. You are full of shit. As for keeping my mouth shut, name the time and place and we'll talk. Since you know so much about Loudoun, feel free to check the DA rosters next year to see where the players went.


All you have done is tell me I know nothing yet you have provided absolutely no substance to back up your claims. If you know so much, please enlighten us....


Sorry, coach, guess you'll have to find out when they decide to let you know. By the way, you haven't provided any "substance" either. As far as anyone on here knows, what you typed is unsubstantiated crap, unless you are prepared to provide names, references, tryout lists and official rosters. Which, of course, you aren't. goodbye.
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Anonymous wrote:Did Loudoun Red girls 05 lose players to FCV? Is that why Loudoun Red 05 dropped off this season? Did FCV 05 girls merge with an outside team? I still don't know why there are so many FCV haters.


You might want to go read back a bit. Both questions were covered pretty well.
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Anonymous wrote:If you want to know if a club really develops talent all you have to do is look at the teams current make up and figure out where they came from.

Lets take FCV for example. Their 1st ever U9, U10, U11, U12, and U13 group started five years ago. Everything up until that time at FCV was only ECNL (U14 and above). That aforementioned group is now U14, U15, U16, U17, U18.

How many of those kids on the current DA teams do you think came from the original age group pools?

Answer: Very Few.


Like 15% to 20%? I guess stealing kids from other clubs is their forte. However, with other DA's and ECNL teams within close proximity, it will likely hurt their ability to woo parents/kids to their club.


Never said they stole kids. Parents bring their kids to them. In search of the winning team. FCV has pick of the litter. That's why they can discard talent left and right. It get replenished. It will continue to get replenished. That's why parents and players get emotionally drained in these hyper competitive environments.
Always on the chopping block.


Their ability to recruit will be put to the test in the coming seasons as many clubs around them also offer pathways that were once far more limited when there was only ECNL and McLean was the only other choice. With talent spread across more clubs than ever FCV, as well as other clubs, will actually have to develop and retain talent. It will remain to be seen if FCV can have continued success in this new landscape.


Winning team always attracts the top talent. ALWAYS! As long as they are winning, everyone is happy. You are overplaying the draw of ECNL in this area. It will not do what you think it will do. DA is the top option in NOVA going forward. The ECNL teams next year will be weaker then they were this year...and this year was weaker than last year. That's the trend going forward. In my humble opinion.



Would be interesting to know how many Loudoun 05,06,07 from Red teams left their upcoming ECNL teams to go to either FCV or WS DA? Or how many 05,06,07 McLean or BRYC players left (I know McLean 05 may be a bit of an anomaly as several are jumping ship for WS DA, presumably following Spencer) Anyone have insight? Those numbers would at least be the foundational statistics needed to confirm or negate the statement above that ECNL will continue to get weaker.


DONE - Loudoun 05's already jumped ship
DONE - Mclean 05's jumped ship

BRYC 05 is winless in ECNL, so don't know their plans. I assume they will jump from that team.



How many Loudoun 05s jumped ship? I only know of one going to FCV, who else is leaving? Any going to WS? The ones that left mid season do not count of course.

Loudoun 06 Red - no one left for FCV or WS DA, same for 07 (however I do not think any of them would have made FCV 06 DA, but Spirit 06 DA yes, from what I hear everyone that even showed up got an offer).


From your last two statements alone, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


I take it you know so much then? Loudoun 06 Red (to be ECNL in the fall) was going to get two players from FCV who decided to stay and play 06 DA. Loudoun 07 Red - no one left that team except 1, and she is not going to another club. WS 06/07 - everyone who tried out was extended and offer except 1. Now who doesn't know what they are talking about?

Unless you can back your claim up from above with better facts than these then I suggest you keep your trap shut.


LMAO Internet tough guy. You are full of shit. As for keeping my mouth shut, name the time and place and we'll talk. Since you know so much about Loudoun, feel free to check the DA rosters next year to see where the players went.


All you have done is tell me I know nothing yet you have provided absolutely no substance to back up your claims. If you know so much, please enlighten us....


Sorry, coach, guess you'll have to find out when they decide to let you know. By the way, you haven't provided any "substance" either. As far as anyone on here knows, what you typed is unsubstantiated crap, unless you are prepared to provide names, references, tryout lists and official rosters. Which, of course, you aren't. goodbye.


HAHA, definitely not a coach. As for providing names, I am not going to provide youth girls names on a public forum. I was just simply asking a question originally and then you jump all over me and tell me I have not idea what I am talking about. I then give at least some substance and you provide nothing except more criticism of me. It must make you feel good to troll this board and pop shots at people and tell them they know nothing. #youknoweverything
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Anonymous wrote:If you want to know if a club really develops talent all you have to do is look at the teams current make up and figure out where they came from.

Lets take FCV for example. Their 1st ever U9, U10, U11, U12, and U13 group started five years ago. Everything up until that time at FCV was only ECNL (U14 and above). That aforementioned group is now U14, U15, U16, U17, U18.

How many of those kids on the current DA teams do you think came from the original age group pools?

Answer: Very Few.


Like 15% to 20%? I guess stealing kids from other clubs is their forte. However, with other DA's and ECNL teams within close proximity, it will likely hurt their ability to woo parents/kids to their club.


Never said they stole kids. Parents bring their kids to them. In search of the winning team. FCV has pick of the litter. That's why they can discard talent left and right. It get replenished. It will continue to get replenished. That's why parents and players get emotionally drained in these hyper competitive environments.
Always on the chopping block.


Their ability to recruit will be put to the test in the coming seasons as many clubs around them also offer pathways that were once far more limited when there was only ECNL and McLean was the only other choice. With talent spread across more clubs than ever FCV, as well as other clubs, will actually have to develop and retain talent. It will remain to be seen if FCV can have continued success in this new landscape.


Winning team always attracts the top talent. ALWAYS! As long as they are winning, everyone is happy. You are overplaying the draw of ECNL in this area. It will not do what you think it will do. DA is the top option in NOVA going forward. The ECNL teams next year will be weaker then they were this year...and this year was weaker than last year. That's the trend going forward. In my humble opinion.



Would be interesting to know how many Loudoun 05,06,07 from Red teams left their upcoming ECNL teams to go to either FCV or WS DA? Or how many 05,06,07 McLean or BRYC players left (I know McLean 05 may be a bit of an anomaly as several are jumping ship for WS DA, presumably following Spencer) Anyone have insight? Those numbers would at least be the foundational statistics needed to confirm or negate the statement above that ECNL will continue to get weaker.


DONE - Loudoun 05's already jumped ship
DONE - Mclean 05's jumped ship

BRYC 05 is winless in ECNL, so don't know their plans. I assume they will jump from that team.



How many Loudoun 05s jumped ship? I only know of one going to FCV, who else is leaving? Any going to WS? The ones that left mid season do not count of course.

Loudoun 06 Red - no one left for FCV or WS DA, same for 07 (however I do not think any of them would have made FCV 06 DA, but Spirit 06 DA yes, from what I hear everyone that even showed up got an offer).


From your last two statements alone, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


I take it you know so much then? Loudoun 06 Red (to be ECNL in the fall) was going to get two players from FCV who decided to stay and play 06 DA. Loudoun 07 Red - no one left that team except 1, and she is not going to another club. WS 06/07 - everyone who tried out was extended and offer except 1. Now who doesn't know what they are talking about?

Unless you can back your claim up from above with better facts than these then I suggest you keep your trap shut.


LMAO Internet tough guy. You are full of shit. As for keeping my mouth shut, name the time and place and we'll talk. Since you know so much about Loudoun, feel free to check the DA rosters next year to see where the players went.


All you have done is tell me I know nothing yet you have provided absolutely no substance to back up your claims. If you know so much, please enlighten us....


Sorry, coach, guess you'll have to find out when they decide to let you know. By the way, you haven't provided any "substance" either. As far as anyone on here knows, what you typed is unsubstantiated crap, unless you are prepared to provide names, references, tryout lists and official rosters. Which, of course, you aren't. goodbye.


HAHA, definitely not a coach. As for providing names, I am not going to provide youth girls names on a public forum. I was just simply asking a question originally and then you jump all over me and tell me I have not idea what I am talking about. I then give at least some substance and you provide nothing except more criticism of me. It must make you feel good to troll this board and pop shots at people and tell them they know nothing. #youknoweverything


I never claimed to know everything, just more than you about this. Sorry to disappoint you, but I can't let you spread garbage that just isn't true on what should be an informative thread. Like I said, wait for the info to come out with the official rosters and check against last years rosters. And feel free to provide a single shed of evidence to support any of your claims. We have yet to see it.
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Anonymous wrote:If you want to know if a club really develops talent all you have to do is look at the teams current make up and figure out where they came from.

Lets take FCV for example. Their 1st ever U9, U10, U11, U12, and U13 group started five years ago. Everything up until that time at FCV was only ECNL (U14 and above). That aforementioned group is now U14, U15, U16, U17, U18.

How many of those kids on the current DA teams do you think came from the original age group pools?

Answer: Very Few.


Like 15% to 20%? I guess stealing kids from other clubs is their forte. However, with other DA's and ECNL teams within close proximity, it will likely hurt their ability to woo parents/kids to their club.


Never said they stole kids. Parents bring their kids to them. In search of the winning team. FCV has pick of the litter. That's why they can discard talent left and right. It get replenished. It will continue to get replenished. That's why parents and players get emotionally drained in these hyper competitive environments.
Always on the chopping block.


Their ability to recruit will be put to the test in the coming seasons as many clubs around them also offer pathways that were once far more limited when there was only ECNL and McLean was the only other choice. With talent spread across more clubs than ever FCV, as well as other clubs, will actually have to develop and retain talent. It will remain to be seen if FCV can have continued success in this new landscape.


Winning team always attracts the top talent. ALWAYS! As long as they are winning, everyone is happy. You are overplaying the draw of ECNL in this area. It will not do what you think it will do. DA is the top option in NOVA going forward. The ECNL teams next year will be weaker then they were this year...and this year was weaker than last year. That's the trend going forward. In my humble opinion.



Would be interesting to know how many Loudoun 05,06,07 from Red teams left their upcoming ECNL teams to go to either FCV or WS DA? Or how many 05,06,07 McLean or BRYC players left (I know McLean 05 may be a bit of an anomaly as several are jumping ship for WS DA, presumably following Spencer) Anyone have insight? Those numbers would at least be the foundational statistics needed to confirm or negate the statement above that ECNL will continue to get weaker.


DONE - Loudoun 05's already jumped ship
DONE - Mclean 05's jumped ship

BRYC 05 is winless in ECNL, so don't know their plans. I assume they will jump from that team.



How many Loudoun 05s jumped ship? I only know of one going to FCV, who else is leaving? Any going to WS? The ones that left mid season do not count of course.

Loudoun 06 Red - no one left for FCV or WS DA, same for 07 (however I do not think any of them would have made FCV 06 DA, but Spirit 06 DA yes, from what I hear everyone that even showed up got an offer).


From your last two statements alone, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


I take it you know so much then? Loudoun 06 Red (to be ECNL in the fall) was going to get two players from FCV who decided to stay and play 06 DA. Loudoun 07 Red - no one left that team except 1, and she is not going to another club. WS 06/07 - everyone who tried out was extended and offer except 1. Now who doesn't know what they are talking about?

Unless you can back your claim up from above with better facts than these then I suggest you keep your trap shut.


LMAO Internet tough guy. You are full of shit. As for keeping my mouth shut, name the time and place and we'll talk. Since you know so much about Loudoun, feel free to check the DA rosters next year to see where the players went.


All you have done is tell me I know nothing yet you have provided absolutely no substance to back up your claims. If you know so much, please enlighten us....


Sorry, coach, guess you'll have to find out when they decide to let you know. By the way, you haven't provided any "substance" either. As far as anyone on here knows, what you typed is unsubstantiated crap, unless you are prepared to provide names, references, tryout lists and official rosters. Which, of course, you aren't. goodbye.


HAHA, definitely not a coach. As for providing names, I am not going to provide youth girls names on a public forum. I was just simply asking a question originally and then you jump all over me and tell me I have not idea what I am talking about. I then give at least some substance and you provide nothing except more criticism of me. It must make you feel good to troll this board and pop shots at people and tell them they know nothing. #youknoweverything


I never claimed to know everything, just more than you about this. Sorry to disappoint you, but I can't let you spread garbage that just isn't true on what should be an informative thread. Like I said, wait for the info to come out with the official rosters and check against last years rosters. And feel free to provide a single shed of evidence to support any of your claims. We have yet to see it.


Then if you know so much about this, please at least give us something to go on other than your claim you know more. So let me get this straight, are you saying that several Loudoun 06 and 07 players are leaving Loudoun to go where? FCV DA or WS DA? What garbage am I spreading? I am not talking poorly of any one or any team, just sharing what I know about the landscape of the local clubs.
Anonymous
If mclean 05s went to WS and Arlington...and Mclean 04s going FCV...and Loudoun 05s going FCV...whose doing ECNL
Anonymous
Gotta love the people who “know” who is posting on an anonymous forum
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Gotta love the people who “know” who is posting on an anonymous forum


^^AMEN^^
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