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Anonymous wrote:Spoken like a coach who believes he knows everything, including what's best for my child.

Sorry, but as a soccer coach, on the soccer field, I do know what's best for your child.
And if you don't believe that, please get your kid off my team.

90%+ of youth soccer "coaches" are just cashing paychecks and not interested in developing any players. That is why soccer-knowledgeable parents get upset committing huge amounts of time and money to have some jackass coach show up with no lesson plan to have his players scrimmage for 75% of training sessions. Who needs to pay $2500 a year for that garbage?

I say this as a coach.

I'm not convinced "pro" coaches are better than "parent" coaches, at least at the early ages. Parents often have more reason to care. And they're often better with kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoken like a coach who believes he knows everything, including what's best for my child.

Sorry, but as a soccer coach, on the soccer field, I do know what's best for your child.
And if you don't believe that, please get your kid off my team.

90%+ of youth soccer "coaches" are just cashing paychecks and not interested in developing any players. That is why soccer-knowledgeable parents get upset committing huge amounts of time and money to have some jackass coach show up with no lesson plan to have his players scrimmage for 75% of training sessions. Who needs to pay $2500 a year for that garbage?

I say this as a coach.

I'm not convinced "pro" coaches are better than "parent" coaches, at least at the early ages. Parents often have more reason to care. And they're often better with kids.

Pro coaches don't have kids? Parent coaches only have reason to care about their kid and don't fool yourself otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoken like a coach who believes he knows everything, including what's best for my child.

Sorry, but as a soccer coach, on the soccer field, I do know what's best for your child.
And if you don't believe that, please get your kid off my team.

90%+ of youth soccer "coaches" are just cashing paychecks and not interested in developing any players. That is why soccer-knowledgeable parents get upset committing huge amounts of time and money to have some jackass coach show up with no lesson plan to have his players scrimmage for 75% of training sessions. Who needs to pay $2500 a year for that garbage?

I say this as a coach.

That's why we left our club and were fortunate enough to have another one very close that has a very, well-developed player progressive training plan.

Not a coach, but a former player and I couldn't believe they get $3k for that crap. Fortunately for them, one half of the population is fairly clueless about the sport and the other has such an egotistical desire to play for the "name" no matter how shitty the training. Otherwise, they'd be out of "customers".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoken like a coach who believes he knows everything, including what's best for my child.

Sorry, but as a soccer coach, on the soccer field, I do know what's best for your child.
And if you don't believe that, please get your kid off my team.

90%+ of youth soccer "coaches" are just cashing paychecks and not interested in developing any players. That is why soccer-knowledgeable parents get upset committing huge amounts of time and money to have some jackass coach show up with no lesson plan to have his players scrimmage for 75% of training sessions. Who needs to pay $2500 a year for that garbage?

I say this as a coach.

I'm not convinced "pro" coaches are better than "parent" coaches, at least at the early ages. Parents often have more reason to care. And they're often better with kids.

Pro coaches don't have kids?

Most of the ones I see do not.

Parent coaches only have reason to care about their kid and don't fool yourself otherwise.

Thank you for enlightening me. All these years, I thought I cared about these kids. What a relief to know that I don't!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoken like a coach who believes he knows everything, including what's best for my child.

Sorry, but as a soccer coach, on the soccer field, I do know what's best for your child.
And if you don't believe that, please get your kid off my team.

90%+ of youth soccer "coaches" are just cashing paychecks and not interested in developing any players. That is why soccer-knowledgeable parents get upset committing huge amounts of time and money to have some jackass coach show up with no lesson plan to have his players scrimmage for 75% of training sessions. Who needs to pay $2500 a year for that garbage?

I say this as a coach.

I'm not convinced "pro" coaches are better than "parent" coaches, at least at the early ages. Parents often have more reason to care. And they're often better with kids.

Pro coaches don't have kids?

Most of the ones I see do not.

Parent coaches only have reason to care about their kid and don't fool yourself otherwise.

Thank you for enlightening me. All these years, I thought I cared about these kids. What a relief to know that I don't!

How many teams that don't have your kids on them do you coach then?

[Anonymous]

In my opinion, even if your child is playing rec soccer, they deserve to be coached by someone who at least is familiar with the game and has some coaching expertise. Sometimes you luck out and find a volunteer who fits this bill - I understand that sometimes you don't. In this case, I would prefer to pay a professional coach to teach my kid the game versus putting him on a team coached by a nice, caring volunteer who knows nothing about soccer and has never coached. There are absolutely good professional coaches who know the game AND care about the kids, even if they're not their own. And even if they've never been a parent before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, even if your child is playing rec soccer, they deserve to be coached by someone who at least is familiar with the game and has some coaching expertise. Sometimes you luck out and find a volunteer who fits this bill - I understand that sometimes you don't. In this case, I would prefer to pay a professional coach to teach my kid the game versus putting him on a team coached by a nice, caring volunteer who knows nothing about soccer and has never coached. There are absolutely good professional coaches who know the game AND care about the kids, even if they're not their own. And even if they've never been a parent before.

Claiming that pro coaches are not parents might be the dumbest post in this thread for quite some time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, even if your child is playing rec soccer, they deserve to be coached by someone who at least is familiar with the game and has some coaching expertise. Sometimes you luck out and find a volunteer who fits this bill - I understand that sometimes you don't. In this case, I would prefer to pay a professional coach to teach my kid the game versus putting him on a team coached by a nice, caring volunteer who knows nothing about soccer and has never coached. There are absolutely good professional coaches who know the game AND care about the kids, even if they're not their own. And even if they've never been a parent before.

Claiming that pro coaches are not parents might be the dumbest post in this thread for quite some time.

PP here - you may have misread my post. I didn't say (or intend to suggest) that no pro coaches are parents. My point was that professional coaches don't have to be parents themselves to care about the kids they coach. I know that some are parents, but an earlier poster suggested that pro coaches don't care about the kids the way volunteer parent coaches do. I was just taking issue with this point.

But thanks for putting me in my place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, even if your child is playing rec soccer, they deserve to be coached by someone who at least is familiar with the game and has some coaching expertise. Sometimes you luck out and find a volunteer who fits this bill - I understand that sometimes you don't. In this case, I would prefer to pay a professional coach to teach my kid the game versus putting him on a team coached by a nice, caring volunteer who knows nothing about soccer and has never coached. There are absolutely good professional coaches who know the game AND care about the kids, even if they're not their own. And even if they've never been a parent before.

I think the discussion is...everything being almost equal meaning the parent coach has licenses and playing experience, a coach with his/her kid on the team is better than a coach that doesn't. One person said that parent coaches only care about their own kid. One person strongly disagreed with this as do I (a former parent coach).

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I would suggest that you can divide coaches into two categories: those who understand motor learning and those who don't.

Some parent-volunteer soccer coaches bring motor learning insights from other sports they coach, such as basketball and football, where there's emergent thinking about contextual interference, etc.

Some professional soccer coaches have picked up motor learning principles through their formal certification and licensing studies, for example, with curriculums that emphasize small-sided game play.

But most coaches, whether they're lonely, childless pros or parents who volunteer or pros with eighteen children because they're so virile, tend to design practices that look like motor learning research doesn't exist. That's too bad for young players.

[Anonymous]

Let 'em play soccer in the "street." Nothing teaches better than that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, there's a history of FPYC players, as they get older, leaving the club (which isn't necessarily positive, of course) for elite squads (e.g., DA). Plus, I have, in the past, seen some of those teams play, and the kids back then were noticeably more advanced with 1 v. 1 skills, calmer and more clever with the ball, more "sophisticate" than I'd assumed was possible at that age. It's possible that's no longer the case, but to me FPYC is a strong, player-focused club.

This is still accurate. FPYC still has a strong focus on development -- but yes, many of our good players do get poached away by the larger clubs. That's good (shows they are being trained well) and bad (hurts our growth).

Were these kids really "poached" meaning that someone from an outside club actively recruited them away or did these parents just think that another club would be better for them and their kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, even if your child is playing rec soccer, they deserve to be coached by someone who at least is familiar with the game and has some coaching expertise. Sometimes you luck out and find a volunteer who fits this bill - I understand that sometimes you don't. In this case, I would prefer to pay a professional coach to teach my kid the game versus putting him on a team coached by a nice, caring volunteer who knows nothing about soccer and has never coached. There are absolutely good professional coaches who know the game AND care about the kids, even if they're not their own. And even if they've never been a parent before.

Claiming that pro coaches are not parents might be the dumbest post in this thread for quite some time.

PP here - you may have misread my post. I didn't say (or intend to suggest) that no pro coaches are parents. My point was that professional coaches don't have to be parents themselves to care about the kids they coach. I know that some are parents, but an earlier poster suggested that pro coaches don't care about the kids the way volunteer parent coaches do. I was just taking issue with this point.

But thanks for putting me in my place.

If that was your point, then I agree with you. You may now leave the place that I put you in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, even if your child is playing rec soccer, they deserve to be coached by someone who at least is familiar with the game and has some coaching expertise. Sometimes you luck out and find a volunteer who fits this bill - I understand that sometimes you don't. In this case, I would prefer to pay a professional coach to teach my kid the game versus putting him on a team coached by a nice, caring volunteer who knows nothing about soccer and has never coached. There are absolutely good professional coaches who know the game AND care about the kids, even if they're not their own. And even if they've never been a parent before.

Well, this is a Travel Soccer discussion thread, so there is that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there's a history of FPYC players, as they get older, leaving the club (which isn't necessarily positive, of course) for elite squads (e.g., DA). Plus, I have, in the past, seen some of those teams play, and the kids back then were noticeably more advanced with 1 v. 1 skills, calmer and more clever with the ball, more "sophisticate" than I'd assumed was possible at that age. It's possible that's no longer the case, but to me FPYC is a strong, player-focused club.

This is still accurate. FPYC still has a strong focus on development -- but yes, many of our good players do get poached away by the larger clubs. That's good (shows they are being trained well) and bad (hurts our growth).

Were these kids really "poached" meaning that someone from an outside club actively recruited them away or did these parents just think that another club would be better for them and their kid?

Well, the coach from the club they are now watched them on occasion last year...did the same with other clubs. Aided by a few parents as well.