Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's pretty settled that Reid is creating the boundaries based on who did and did not opt in, right? This is her way of choosing the boundaries without controversy.

How is that going to work if it’s pockets of kids from a bunch of different areas? I know the website says some BS about geographically based boundaries as though there is an alternative. They have to provide transportation once boundaries are drawn. So they’re either going to have to draw a traditional boundary or draw an extremely tiny boundary and let people opt in with zero transportation provided for those outside the tiny boundary.

I think Oak Hill, Coates, and McNair are set. They remove kids from Chantilly and Westfield, which helps Chantilly and allows kids from Centerville to be moved to Westfield, relieving Centerville. Floris, Crossfield, and Fox Mill were named as possibilities in the initial boundary maps, that are no longer in play. Others have mentioned Navy and Lees Corner. I think those are the schools whose opt in numbers could influence who ends up at Western. Those ES are in the area and would help fill Western but at their HS are not as crowded as Chantilly and Centerville.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's pretty settled that Reid is creating the boundaries based on who did and did not opt in, right? This is her way of choosing the boundaries without controversy.

How is that going to work if it’s pockets of kids from a bunch of different areas? I know the website says some BS about geographically based boundaries as though there is an alternative. They have to provide transportation once boundaries are drawn. So they’re either going to have to draw a traditional boundary or draw an extremely tiny boundary and let people opt in with zero transportation provided for those outside the tiny boundary.

I think Oak Hill, Coates, and McNair are set. They remove kids from Chantilly and Westfield, which helps Chantilly and allows kids from Centerville to be moved to Westfield, relieving Centerville. Floris, Crossfield, and Fox Mill were named as possibilities in the initial boundary maps, that are no longer in play. Others have mentioned Navy and Lees Corner. I think those are the schools whose opt in numbers could influence who ends up at Western. Those ES are in the area and would help fill Western but at their HS are not as crowded as Chantilly and Centerville.

Are you referring to the Navy Island in Franklin Farm? I don’t think Navy as an ES has been considered as an option for Western at this point. If it was, they would give RIO a run for their money in terms of intensity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's pretty settled that Reid is creating the boundaries based on who did and did not opt in, right? This is her way of choosing the boundaries without controversy.

How is that going to work if it’s pockets of kids from a bunch of different areas? I know the website says some BS about geographically based boundaries as though there is an alternative. They have to provide transportation once boundaries are drawn. So they’re either going to have to draw a traditional boundary or draw an extremely tiny boundary and let people opt in with zero transportation provided for those outside the tiny boundary.

I think Oak Hill, Coates, and McNair are set. They remove kids from Chantilly and Westfield, which helps Chantilly and allows kids from Centerville to be moved to Westfield, relieving Centerville. Floris, Crossfield, and Fox Mill were named as possibilities in the initial boundary maps, that are no longer in play. Others have mentioned Navy and Lees Corner. I think those are the schools whose opt in numbers could influence who ends up at Western. Those ES are in the area and would help fill Western but at their HS are not as crowded as Chantilly and Centerville.

The new school is located in the Floris district so I’ve no idea what you’re going on about here. Some of you folks appear never to have seen a map in your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's pretty settled that Reid is creating the boundaries based on who did and did not opt in, right? This is her way of choosing the boundaries without controversy.

How is that going to work if it’s pockets of kids from a bunch of different areas? I know the website says some BS about geographically based boundaries as though there is an alternative. They have to provide transportation once boundaries are drawn. So they’re either going to have to draw a traditional boundary or draw an extremely tiny boundary and let people opt in with zero transportation provided for those outside the tiny boundary.

I think Oak Hill, Coates, and McNair are set. They remove kids from Chantilly and Westfield, which helps Chantilly and allows kids from Centerville to be moved to Westfield, relieving Centerville. Floris, Crossfield, and Fox Mill were named as possibilities in the initial boundary maps, that are no longer in play. Others have mentioned Navy and Lees Corner. I think those are the schools whose opt in numbers could influence who ends up at Western. Those ES are in the area and would help fill Western but at their HS are not as crowded as Chantilly and Centerville.

The new school is located in the Floris district so I’ve no idea what you’re going on about here. Some of you folks appear never to have seen a map in your life.

I live in the area, I know where it is and where the ESs are. I am basing my thoughts based on the 4 boundary maps that were initially put out and then withdrawn. Talk to the school board because Floris was not in Western in all of the maps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's pretty settled that Reid is creating the boundaries based on who did and did not opt in, right? This is her way of choosing the boundaries without controversy.

How is that going to work if it’s pockets of kids from a bunch of different areas? I know the website says some BS about geographically based boundaries as though there is an alternative. They have to provide transportation once boundaries are drawn. So they’re either going to have to draw a traditional boundary or draw an extremely tiny boundary and let people opt in with zero transportation provided for those outside the tiny boundary.

I think Oak Hill, Coates, and McNair are set. They remove kids from Chantilly and Westfield, which helps Chantilly and allows kids from Centerville to be moved to Westfield, relieving Centerville. Floris, Crossfield, and Fox Mill were named as possibilities in the initial boundary maps, that are no longer in play. Others have mentioned Navy and Lees Corner. I think those are the schools whose opt in numbers could influence who ends up at Western. Those ES are in the area and would help fill Western but at their HS are not as crowded as Chantilly and Centerville.

The new school is located in the Floris district so I’ve no idea what you’re going on about here. Some of you folks appear never to have seen a map in your life.

I live in the area, I know where it is and where the ESs are. I am basing my thoughts based on the 4 boundary maps that were initially put out and then withdrawn. Talk to the school board because Floris was not in Western in all of the maps.

I also live in the area. Pretty sure that Floris WAS in all the maps. Discovery Square, which is assigned to Floris, was left out of two of them--but that was ridiculous since it is the closest neighborhood to the new high school along with much of the Oak Hill elementary neighborhood.

They had the best boundary outline. It was A. It fit all the requirements. Relieved overcrowding and proximity. Not only that, it left Meren with South Lakes untouched (although they should take ALL the Floris kids from South Lakes.)

Anyone looking at it objectively would know that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's pretty settled that Reid is creating the boundaries based on who did and did not opt in, right? This is her way of choosing the boundaries without controversy.

How is that going to work if it’s pockets of kids from a bunch of different areas? I know the website says some BS about geographically based boundaries as though there is an alternative. They have to provide transportation once boundaries are drawn. So they’re either going to have to draw a traditional boundary or draw an extremely tiny boundary and let people opt in with zero transportation provided for those outside the tiny boundary.

I think Oak Hill, Coates, and McNair are set. They remove kids from Chantilly and Westfield, which helps Chantilly and allows kids from Centerville to be moved to Westfield, relieving Centerville. Floris, Crossfield, and Fox Mill were named as possibilities in the initial boundary maps, that are no longer in play. Others have mentioned Navy and Lees Corner. I think those are the schools whose opt in numbers could influence who ends up at Western. Those ES are in the area and would help fill Western but at their HS are not as crowded as Chantilly and Centerville.

The new school is located in the Floris district so I’ve no idea what you’re going on about here. Some of you folks appear never to have seen a map in your life.

I live in the area, I know where it is and where the ESs are. I am basing my thoughts based on the 4 boundary maps that were initially put out and then withdrawn. Talk to the school board because Floris was not in Western in all of the maps.

I also live in the area. Pretty sure that Floris WAS in all the maps. Discovery Square, which is assigned to Floris, was left out of two of them--but that was ridiculous since it is the closest neighborhood to the new high school along with much of the Oak Hill elementary neighborhood.

They had the best boundary outline. It was A. It fit all the requirements. Relieved overcrowding and proximity. Not only that, it left Meren with South Lakes untouched (although they should take ALL the Floris kids from South Lakes.)

Anyone looking at it objectively would know that.

OK, so that is what it was. Some maps united Floris at one HS, some maps kept it split. Thanks! Floris should be at Western, I remembered the SLHS part of Floris not being included and that registered for me as all of Floris.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's pretty settled that Reid is creating the boundaries based on who did and did not opt in, right? This is her way of choosing the boundaries without controversy.

How is that going to work if it’s pockets of kids from a bunch of different areas? I know the website says some BS about geographically based boundaries as though there is an alternative. They have to provide transportation once boundaries are drawn. So they’re either going to have to draw a traditional boundary or draw an extremely tiny boundary and let people opt in with zero transportation provided for those outside the tiny boundary.

I think Oak Hill, Coates, and McNair are set. They remove kids from Chantilly and Westfield, which helps Chantilly and allows kids from Centerville to be moved to Westfield, relieving Centerville. Floris, Crossfield, and Fox Mill were named as possibilities in the initial boundary maps, that are no longer in play. Others have mentioned Navy and Lees Corner. I think those are the schools whose opt in numbers could influence who ends up at Western. Those ES are in the area and would help fill Western but at their HS are not as crowded as Chantilly and Centerville.

The new school is located in the Floris district so I’ve no idea what you’re going on about here. Some of you folks appear never to have seen a map in your life.

I live in the area, I know where it is and where the ESs are. I am basing my thoughts based on the 4 boundary maps that were initially put out and then withdrawn. Talk to the school board because Floris was not in Western in all of the maps.

I also live in the area. Pretty sure that Floris WAS in all the maps. Discovery Square, which is assigned to Floris, was left out of two of them--but that was ridiculous since it is the closest neighborhood to the new high school along with much of the Oak Hill elementary neighborhood.

They had the best boundary outline. It was A. It fit all the requirements. Relieved overcrowding and proximity. Not only that, it left Meren with South Lakes untouched (although they should take ALL the Floris kids from South Lakes.)

Anyone looking at it objectively would know that.

OK, so that is what it was. Some maps united Floris at one HS, some maps kept it split. Thanks! Floris should be at Western, I remembered the SLHS part of Floris not being included and that registered for me as all of Floris.

Option A had all of Floris--except for the portion that goes to South Lakes.
I think Option B had Floris and Fox Mill --but not Crossfield.
C and D both excluded Discovery Square and I think one of them included Fox Mill and Crossfield--but not McNair and Coates? I'm a little vague on that because excluding Discovery Square was ridiculous.

The only logical option was A. And, it should have included ALL of Floris, but left out South Lakes students;

[Anonymous]

Fox Mill was in all of them except A, which shocked me.

[Anonymous]

I think that because of iB a lot of Fox Mill people would really like to move.

That is what they should be addressing throughout the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that because of iB a lot of Fox Mill people would really like to move.

That is what they should be addressing throughout the county.

There is a small group of people that like IB, a group of people who don’t care between IB and AP, and the group that wants AP. The pro-AP crowd has been pupil placing for ages and is only going to get worse. FCPS is shutting down pupil placing for foreign languages but wants to ignore the IB issue.

[Anonymous]

I’m in Fox Mill, kids are older so no dog in this fight, and our pain point was not so much IB as it is Carson being a split feeder. If they are going to leave out Fox Mill from Western than they should consider sending Fox Mill kids to Hughes because sending them to South Lakes where 90 percent are coming from Hughes with established friend groups is cruel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's pretty settled that Reid is creating the boundaries based on who did and did not opt in, right? This is her way of choosing the boundaries without controversy.

How is that going to work if it’s pockets of kids from a bunch of different areas? I know the website says some BS about geographically based boundaries as though there is an alternative. They have to provide transportation once boundaries are drawn. So they’re either going to have to draw a traditional boundary or draw an extremely tiny boundary and let people opt in with zero transportation provided for those outside the tiny boundary.

I think Oak Hill, Coates, and McNair are set. They remove kids from Chantilly and Westfield, which helps Chantilly and allows kids from Centerville to be moved to Westfield, relieving Centerville. Floris, Crossfield, and Fox Mill were named as possibilities in the initial boundary maps, that are no longer in play. Others have mentioned Navy and Lees Corner. I think those are the schools whose opt in numbers could influence who ends up at Western. Those ES are in the area and would help fill Western but at their HS are not as crowded as Chantilly and Centerville.

Are you referring to the Navy Island in Franklin Farm? I don’t think Navy as an ES has been considered as an option for Western at this point. If it was, they would give RIO a run for their money in terms of intensity.

You might be surprised. I have talked to multiple Navy parents who wish their kids could go to the school. They don't love the commute to Oakton and think the new school will be nice. These are mostly parents of younger kids, so they figure the school will be established by the time their kids would attend. I think some of the Crossfield people whose kids go to Navy for AAP are the most intense about this. They purposely picked a home zoned for Carson because it's a big TJ feeder, and now are scared because they know being zoned for Carson makes them a very logical choice for the new HS. I think at Navy you have some who would fight the change and a whole bunch who would be fine with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's pretty settled that Reid is creating the boundaries based on who did and did not opt in, right? This is her way of choosing the boundaries without controversy.

How is that going to work if it’s pockets of kids from a bunch of different areas? I know the website says some BS about geographically based boundaries as though there is an alternative. They have to provide transportation once boundaries are drawn. So they’re either going to have to draw a traditional boundary or draw an extremely tiny boundary and let people opt in with zero transportation provided for those outside the tiny boundary.

I think Oak Hill, Coates, and McNair are set. They remove kids from Chantilly and Westfield, which helps Chantilly and allows kids from Centerville to be moved to Westfield, relieving Centerville. Floris, Crossfield, and Fox Mill were named as possibilities in the initial boundary maps, that are no longer in play. Others have mentioned Navy and Lees Corner. I think those are the schools whose opt in numbers could influence who ends up at Western. Those ES are in the area and would help fill Western but at their HS are not as crowded as Chantilly and Centerville.

Are you referring to the Navy Island in Franklin Farm? I don’t think Navy as an ES has been considered as an option for Western at this point. If it was, they would give RIO a run for their money in terms of intensity.

You might be surprised. I have talked to multiple Navy parents who wish their kids could go to the school. They don't love the commute to Oakton and think the new school will be nice. These are mostly parents of younger kids, so they figure the school will be established by the time their kids would attend. I think some of the Crossfield people whose kids go to Navy for AAP are the most intense about this. They purposely picked a home zoned for Carson because it's a big TJ feeder, and now are scared because they know being zoned for Carson makes them a very logical choice for the new HS. I think at Navy you have some who would fight the change and a whole bunch who would be fine with it.

As someone looking forward to Western, I think more than some at Navy would fight it. The amount of Navy area zip codes on that petition floating around is a strong indication that many are rallying behind Crossfield so they aren’t the furtherest school away in the next boundary review. It’s easy to say you would like to attend a different school when you’re talking with someone excited about it and you don’t have to make that decision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's pretty settled that Reid is creating the boundaries based on who did and did not opt in, right? This is her way of choosing the boundaries without controversy.

How is that going to work if it’s pockets of kids from a bunch of different areas? I know the website says some BS about geographically based boundaries as though there is an alternative. They have to provide transportation once boundaries are drawn. So they’re either going to have to draw a traditional boundary or draw an extremely tiny boundary and let people opt in with zero transportation provided for those outside the tiny boundary.

I think Oak Hill, Coates, and McNair are set. They remove kids from Chantilly and Westfield, which helps Chantilly and allows kids from Centerville to be moved to Westfield, relieving Centerville. Floris, Crossfield, and Fox Mill were named as possibilities in the initial boundary maps, that are no longer in play. Others have mentioned Navy and Lees Corner. I think those are the schools whose opt in numbers could influence who ends up at Western. Those ES are in the area and would help fill Western but at their HS are not as crowded as Chantilly and Centerville.

The new school is located in the Floris district so I’ve no idea what you’re going on about here. Some of you folks appear never to have seen a map in your life.

I live in the area, I know where it is and where the ESs are. I am basing my thoughts based on the 4 boundary maps that were initially put out and then withdrawn. Talk to the school board because Floris was not in Western in all of the maps.

I also live in the area. Pretty sure that Floris WAS in all the maps. Discovery Square, which is assigned to Floris, was left out of two of them--but that was ridiculous since it is the closest neighborhood to the new high school along with much of the Oak Hill elementary neighborhood.

They had the best boundary outline. It was A. It fit all the requirements. Relieved overcrowding and proximity. Not only that, it left Meren with South Lakes untouched (although they should take ALL the Floris kids from South Lakes.)

Anyone looking at it objectively would know that.

OK, so that is what it was. Some maps united Floris at one HS, some maps kept it split. Thanks! Floris should be at Western, I remembered the SLHS part of Floris not being included and that registered for me as all of Floris.

Option A had all of Floris--except for the portion that goes to South Lakes.
I think Option B had Floris and Fox Mill --but not Crossfield.
C and D both excluded Discovery Square and I think one of them included Fox Mill and Crossfield--but not McNair and Coates? I'm a little vague on that because excluding Discovery Square was ridiculous.

The only logical option was A. And, it should have included ALL of Floris, but left out South Lakes students;

The Children of Thru obviously came up with the four maps and nobody checked them before they published them.

[Anonymous]

Let’s say the new school is a magnet in disguise. Why are people mad about it? If it pulls from all traditional overcrowded schools (albeit potentially unevenly) how does the opt in bother people more than the slight carve outs to their neighborhoods? People seem to be really insistent that “we need a new traditional” school but when pressed it’s due to overpopulation at other schools so if we reduce that and are a magnet school why does anyone care? Can anyone explain this other than jealousy of their kids are not interested in the pathways? I can’t. 50% of white collar jobs are predicted to be gone in 10 years. Is it time for a new school with a new perspective? I’d say it is.