Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:Again, no one can know yet what they'll do. They will release a revised proposal or proposals, and then they'll make a decision based on (1) who yells the loudest and (2) what individual School Board members want.

Logic would suggest that Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill are shoe-ins to be assigned to Western/Skyview. As between Fox Mill and Crossfield, who knows. Fox Mill is closer, but Meren seems to want to protect South Lakes. Crossfield has the longer commute currently to Oakton, but the RIO folks who want to stay there are more vocal than anyone else potentially redistricted. And then you have the wild card of Reid possibly wanting to leave a lot of open seats at Western/Skyview so students from other areas can take the special "pathways" courses.

Fox Mill and Crossfield are both quite close to Western. However, Fox Mill is also close to South Lakes which is its current school. It is pretty much halfway--close to both.
Crossfield, on the other hand, is quite far from Oakton which is its current school.

Crossfield makes more sense.

Because you want to move to Western. Fox Mill families want to move to Western as well. They want their kids to go to the same school as the kids who they went to MS with. They want the AP programs. They didn’t want to move from Oakton 20 years ago and were ignored then. They have been asking for AP classes, like Robertson has, and have been ignored. As you said, Western is closer for Fox Mill and there are families that are vocally supportive of the move.

The school board will make it’s choice. Fox Mill will end up with kids at Western either by being moved or by pupil placing. There are already a good number of kids who pupil place for AP out of SLHS from Fox Mill, expect that number to go up. Western will be the AP school closest to Fox Mill so guess were they land.

Speaking of Fox Mill, did anyone attend the Meren meeting tonight?

I did. No new info about Western high. The main topic was AI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again, no one can know yet what they'll do. They will release a revised proposal or proposals, and then they'll make a decision based on (1) who yells the loudest and (2) what individual School Board members want.

Logic would suggest that Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill are shoe-ins to be assigned to Western/Skyview. As between Fox Mill and Crossfield, who knows. Fox Mill is closer, but Meren seems to want to protect South Lakes. Crossfield has the longer commute currently to Oakton, but the RIO folks who want to stay there are more vocal than anyone else potentially redistricted. And then you have the wild card of Reid possibly wanting to leave a lot of open seats at Western/Skyview so students from other areas can take the special "pathways" courses.

Fox Mill and Crossfield are both quite close to Western. However, Fox Mill is also close to South Lakes which is its current school. It is pretty much halfway--close to both.
Crossfield, on the other hand, is quite far from Oakton which is its current school.

Crossfield makes more sense.

What makes sense to you doesn't matter.

It's more about which community lobbies harder and what makes sense to the board, which is almost always listening to the loudest voice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, no one can know yet what they'll do. They will release a revised proposal or proposals, and then they'll make a decision based on (1) who yells the loudest and (2) what individual School Board members want.

Logic would suggest that Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill are shoe-ins to be assigned to Western/Skyview. As between Fox Mill and Crossfield, who knows. Fox Mill is closer, but Meren seems to want to protect South Lakes. Crossfield has the longer commute currently to Oakton, but the RIO folks who want to stay there are more vocal than anyone else potentially redistricted. And then you have the wild card of Reid possibly wanting to leave a lot of open seats at Western/Skyview so students from other areas can take the special "pathways" courses.

Fox Mill and Crossfield are both quite close to Western. However, Fox Mill is also close to South Lakes which is its current school. It is pretty much halfway--close to both.
Crossfield, on the other hand, is quite far from Oakton which is its current school.

Crossfield makes more sense.

Because you want to move to Western. Fox Mill families want to move to Western as well. They want their kids to go to the same school as the kids who they went to MS with. They want the AP programs. They didn’t want to move from Oakton 20 years ago and were ignored then. They have been asking for AP classes, like Robertson has, and have been ignored. As you said, Western is closer for Fox Mill and there are families that are vocally supportive of the move.

The school board will make it’s choice. Fox Mill will end up with kids at Western either by being moved or by pupil placing. There are already a good number of kids who pupil place for AP out of SLHS from Fox Mill, expect that number to go up. Western will be the AP school closest to Fox Mill so guess were they land.

Speaking of Fox Mill, did anyone attend the Meren meeting tonight?

I did. No new info about Western high. The main topic was AI.

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, no one can know yet what they'll do. They will release a revised proposal or proposals, and then they'll make a decision based on (1) who yells the loudest and (2) what individual School Board members want.

Logic would suggest that Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill are shoe-ins to be assigned to Western/Skyview. As between Fox Mill and Crossfield, who knows. Fox Mill is closer, but Meren seems to want to protect South Lakes. Crossfield has the longer commute currently to Oakton, but the RIO folks who want to stay there are more vocal than anyone else potentially redistricted. And then you have the wild card of Reid possibly wanting to leave a lot of open seats at Western/Skyview so students from other areas can take the special "pathways" courses.

Fox Mill and Crossfield are both quite close to Western. However, Fox Mill is also close to South Lakes which is its current school. It is pretty much halfway--close to both.
Crossfield, on the other hand, is quite far from Oakton which is its current school.

Crossfield makes more sense.

What makes sense to you doesn't matter.

It's more about which community lobbies harder and what makes sense to the board, which is almost always listening to the loudest voice.

This was repeatedly demonstrated during the boundary review.

[Anonymous]

My student is going to Western. They did not fill all the seats and are accepting apps from outside the 5 until they fill. There is a meeting for the future parents/students on the 24th so I guess that is where the great unveiling of who is going will occur. I’m not thrilled that my neighborhood is now essentially split but I’m super excited about the energy and potential at the new school. I can’t believe people are fighting to not be zoned to it.

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When will the boundary decisions be finalized? Sorry I'm late to this thread so appreciate any updates.

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Anonymous wrote:When will the boundary decisions be finalized? Sorry I'm late to this thread so appreciate any updates.

supposed to be June, but who knows.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

There is a lot of criss-crossing and duplicate bus routes because of the AAP situation. My Waples AAP kid's bus to Carson comes 20 minutes earlier than the Franklin bus. The kids are more spread out so that one bus covers several large neighborhoods, versus the Franklin bus which is full after servicing just ours.
The real problem is splitting all the kids off outside their Oakton pyramid for middle school. They should all go to Franklin (and Carson should too if they stay at Oakton) so they'll know more kids in high school. Right now it will be such a small percentage of kids from Carson moving on to Oakton that they'll barely know anyone.

Yes. I know it hasn’t been the last few posters but I have seen several comments in this thread from Crossfield families who both want to stay at Carson and Oakton. You can’t have both. If their argument is that they are part of the “Oakton Community” then go to Franklin. Carson needs to be freed up so the students going to Western can be together to eliminate this ridiculous split feeder. If people wanted to stay at Carson they shouldn’t have/ be advocating to stay at Oakton so hard.

I am a Crossfield parent who wants my kids to go to Carson - Skyview/Western. If we are forced to stay at Oakton, I think the kids should go to Franklin because everyone else from their school will go to Western and that's the worst kind of split feeder. BUT I don't want my kid to go to Franklin, I want my kid to go to Carson because my older children had a great experience at Carson (they will be out of Oakton before my younger kid goes to HS and personally we don't really like Oakton).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, no one can know yet what they'll do. They will release a revised proposal or proposals, and then they'll make a decision based on (1) who yells the loudest and (2) what individual School Board members want.

Logic would suggest that Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill are shoe-ins to be assigned to Western/Skyview. As between Fox Mill and Crossfield, who knows. Fox Mill is closer, but Meren seems to want to protect South Lakes. Crossfield has the longer commute currently to Oakton, but the RIO folks who want to stay there are more vocal than anyone else potentially redistricted. And then you have the wild card of Reid possibly wanting to leave a lot of open seats at Western/Skyview so students from other areas can take the special "pathways" courses.

Fox Mill and Crossfield are both quite close to Western. However, Fox Mill is also close to South Lakes which is its current school. It is pretty much halfway--close to both.
Crossfield, on the other hand, is quite far from Oakton which is its current school.

Crossfield makes more sense.

What makes sense to you doesn't matter.

It's more about which community lobbies harder and what makes sense to the board, which is almost always listening to the loudest voice.

In this case the community is a handful of Oakton moms that are abusing their positions at PTO presidents and Gatehouse employees. It's extremely unfair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My student is going to Western. They did not fill all the seats and are accepting apps from outside the 5 until they fill. There is a meeting for the future parents/students on the 24th so I guess that is where the great unveiling of who is going will occur. I’m not thrilled that my neighborhood is now essentially split but I’m super excited about the energy and potential at the new school. I can’t believe people are fighting to not be zoned to it.

I suspect that if the boundaries had already been set, the seats would all be filled. That is just reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, no one can know yet what they'll do. They will release a revised proposal or proposals, and then they'll make a decision based on (1) who yells the loudest and (2) what individual School Board members want.

Logic would suggest that Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill are shoe-ins to be assigned to Western/Skyview. As between Fox Mill and Crossfield, who knows. Fox Mill is closer, but Meren seems to want to protect South Lakes. Crossfield has the longer commute currently to Oakton, but the RIO folks who want to stay there are more vocal than anyone else potentially redistricted. And then you have the wild card of Reid possibly wanting to leave a lot of open seats at Western/Skyview so students from other areas can take the special "pathways" courses.

Fox Mill and Crossfield are both quite close to Western. However, Fox Mill is also close to South Lakes which is its current school. It is pretty much halfway--close to both.
Crossfield, on the other hand, is quite far from Oakton which is its current school.

Crossfield makes more sense.

What makes sense to you doesn't matter.

It's more about which community lobbies harder and what makes sense to the board, which is almost always listening to the loudest voice.

In this case the community is a handful of Oakton moms that are abusing their positions at PTO presidents and Gatehouse employees. It's extremely unfair.

As someone who largely wants Crossfield at Carson/ Western (the lack of transparency has made me questions at points), I wouldn't give the moms you refer the credit or ego boost if our school stays at Oakton. The loudest voices at community meetings from the Western public meeting to regular board meetings have been from East Asian immigrant parents most of whom live West of West Ox rd and not in Franklin Farm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, no one can know yet what they'll do. They will release a revised proposal or proposals, and then they'll make a decision based on (1) who yells the loudest and (2) what individual School Board members want.

Logic would suggest that Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill are shoe-ins to be assigned to Western/Skyview. As between Fox Mill and Crossfield, who knows. Fox Mill is closer, but Meren seems to want to protect South Lakes. Crossfield has the longer commute currently to Oakton, but the RIO folks who want to stay there are more vocal than anyone else potentially redistricted. And then you have the wild card of Reid possibly wanting to leave a lot of open seats at Western/Skyview so students from other areas can take the special "pathways" courses.

Fox Mill and Crossfield are both quite close to Western. However, Fox Mill is also close to South Lakes which is its current school. It is pretty much halfway--close to both.
Crossfield, on the other hand, is quite far from Oakton which is its current school.

Crossfield makes more sense.

What makes sense to you doesn't matter.

It's more about which community lobbies harder and what makes sense to the board, which is almost always listening to the loudest voice.

In this case the community is a handful of Oakton moms that are abusing their positions at PTO presidents and Gatehouse employees. It's extremely unfair.

It is more then a few parents and you know it.

I am a Fox Mill parent excited by Western. I am aware that our neighborhood is split, some want to stay at SLHS and some want to move to Western. I would guess that Crossfield is the same and that there is large contingent that wants to stay at Oakton. It is not a loud fringe group.

I get wanting to move but if it is important to you then stop being afraid of the PTA parents and use your voice the way they have. Otherwise, you are letting them speak for you. The excuses for not speaking up are kind of lame.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My student is going to Western. They did not fill all the seats and are accepting apps from outside the 5 until they fill. There is a meeting for the future parents/students on the 24th so I guess that is where the great unveiling of who is going will occur. I’m not thrilled that my neighborhood is now essentially split but I’m super excited about the energy and potential at the new school. I can’t believe people are fighting to not be zoned to it.

I suspect that if the boundaries had already been set, the seats would all be filled. That is just reality.

100%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, no one can know yet what they'll do. They will release a revised proposal or proposals, and then they'll make a decision based on (1) who yells the loudest and (2) what individual School Board members want.

Logic would suggest that Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill are shoe-ins to be assigned to Western/Skyview. As between Fox Mill and Crossfield, who knows. Fox Mill is closer, but Meren seems to want to protect South Lakes. Crossfield has the longer commute currently to Oakton, but the RIO folks who want to stay there are more vocal than anyone else potentially redistricted. And then you have the wild card of Reid possibly wanting to leave a lot of open seats at Western/Skyview so students from other areas can take the special "pathways" courses.

Fox Mill and Crossfield are both quite close to Western. However, Fox Mill is also close to South Lakes which is its current school. It is pretty much halfway--close to both.
Crossfield, on the other hand, is quite far from Oakton which is its current school.

Crossfield makes more sense.

What makes sense to you doesn't matter.

It's more about which community lobbies harder and what makes sense to the board, which is almost always listening to the loudest voice.

In this case the community is a handful of Oakton moms that are abusing their positions at PTO presidents and Gatehouse employees. It's extremely unfair.

It is more then a few parents and you know it.

I am a Fox Mill parent excited by Western. I am aware that our neighborhood is split, some want to stay at SLHS and some want to move to Western. I would guess that Crossfield is the same and that there is large contingent that wants to stay at Oakton. It is not a loud fringe group.

I get wanting to move but if it is important to you then stop being afraid of the PTA parents and use your voice the way they have. Otherwise, you are letting them speak for you. The excuses for not speaking up are kind of lame.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My student is going to Western. They did not fill all the seats and are accepting apps from outside the 5 until they fill. There is a meeting for the future parents/students on the 24th so I guess that is where the great unveiling of who is going will occur. I’m not thrilled that my neighborhood is now essentially split but I’m super excited about the energy and potential at the new school. I can’t believe people are fighting to not be zoned to it.

I suspect that if the boundaries had already been set, the seats would all be filled. That is just reality.

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They are going to fill it with opt ins and next years opt in will be even more once those nervous about the unknown see its not the abyss (and they get sports). Then they will restrict the opt ins to the five schools and this is how it will be. It’s not really suited to be a traditional school if you have been to the campus but it will pull from the overcrowded schools. If they don’t get enough from Chantilly I expect they will move some Chantilly to Westfields. The traditional boundary would have to be tiny given the promise they are making to these opt ins to educate them for 4 years. I predict with sports in 2027 there will be a waiting list and maybe ultimately an entrance exam. Setting a boundary in June would serve no purpose and I suspect they won’t and they will send the bus to the local elementary to pick up the western kids.