ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would they make a rule for a few 100 kids across the country to force them to play up with kids more than 12 months older. If your kid is going to get moved to the second team because there are some august kids a grade older moving to your team then go to another team. This doesn't require some rule that will force some delusional parent of an August kid to hold their kid back a year in school because now they wont be the youngest on the team and will be getting that college scholarship that they already have given away to the academy player from europe.

Mostly it keeps the concept of playing down a grade out of leagues thought processes. It also reinforces that Age and Grade are requirements. What this does is keep the GY holdbacks out. And it aligns teams for college recruiters so all players on the field are graduating a specific year.

[Anonymous]

Hard rule needs to be as simple as possible and easy to be enforced. Only birth certificate will/need to be verified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

More importantly, leagues aren't allowed by sanctioning body to unilaterally make player group registration changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they make a rule for a few 100 kids across the country to force them to play up with kids more than 12 months older. If your kid is going to get moved to the second team because there are some august kids a grade older moving to your team then go to another team. This doesn't require some rule that will force some delusional parent of an August kid to hold their kid back a year in school because now they wont be the youngest on the team and will be getting that college scholarship that they already have given away to the academy player from europe.

Mostly it keeps the concept of playing down a grade out of leagues thought processes. It also reinforces that Age and Grade are requirements. What this does is keep the GY holdbacks out. And it aligns teams for college recruiters so all players on the field are graduating a specific year.

It's over. You lost. Your DD will have to beat the Aug girl or find a new team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

More importantly, leagues aren't allowed by sanctioning body to unilaterally make player group registration changes.

MLS and GA Sanction themselves they can do whatever they want. US Club sanctions ECNL and they can do whatever they want. stop trying to seem like you know somehting by citing things that aren't true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

It's over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

The problem of you is you cannot tell the difference between facts and your wishes. That’s the reason you probably don’t have a decent life in reality and chose to find existence on an anonymous forum

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

More importantly, leagues aren't allowed by sanctioning body to unilaterally make player group registration changes.

MLS and GA Sanction themselves they can do whatever they want. US Club sanctions ECNL and they can do whatever they want. stop trying to seem like you know somehting by citing things that aren't true.

3-4 year process to get this random rule in. Remember how long it took to go to SY.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they make a rule for a few 100 kids across the country to force them to play up with kids more than 12 months older. If your kid is going to get moved to the second team because there are some august kids a grade older moving to your team then go to another team. This doesn't require some rule that will force some delusional parent of an August kid to hold their kid back a year in school because now they wont be the youngest on the team and will be getting that college scholarship that they already have given away to the academy player from europe.

Mostly it keeps the concept of playing down a grade out of leagues thought processes. It also reinforces that Age and Grade are requirements. What this does is keep the GY holdbacks out. And it aligns teams for college recruiters so all players on the field are graduating a specific year.

It's over. You lost. Your DD will have to beat the Aug girl or find a new team.

Its not a win or lose "battle" although you seem to treat it that way. Not letting Aug/Sept/etc players play down a grade is a concept that will keep gaining traction. It solves all kinds of issues from both a league and club perspective. And it smooths over parents who wont want kids a grade older playing down on their kids team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

More importantly, leagues aren't allowed by sanctioning body to unilaterally make player group registration changes.

MLS and GA Sanction themselves they can do whatever they want. US Club sanctions ECNL and they can do whatever they want. stop trying to seem like you know somehting by citing things that aren't true.

3-4 year process to get this random rule in. Remember how long it took to go to SY.

Were you laughing when you wrote this? Considering its not remotely true.

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Anonymous wrote:And both dont allow older players to play down. The oldest player will always be 8/1 in every year. Which is the same as SY without a rule that players must play with their grade.

All your doing is aligning the players younger than 8/1-7/31 with their grade in school. If Aug birthday player parents wanted to play down a grade in SY 8/1-7/31 with a rule that players must play with their grade in school. They could hold their kid back in school which would align them with the correct grade and lower club team.

And that's exactly what we'll get with a grade rule. Competitive parents in middle school will take the kids to private school for the grade needed. Yeah, maybe not a 2-year difference, but it will expose how this rule will become ineffective and a trojan horse/next step as people push harder for GY.

No you are incorrect. The only players that can play down by being held back in scool are Aug Sept Oct etc birthdays that are younger than the 8/1-7/31 eligibility window. Technically these players should probably be in the grade down either way.

Ahhh now I get it. The players must play with their grade in school rule just makes the youngest players that are 12+ months younger than the oldest players but in the same grade must play on the same team. If the 12+ month younger than the oldest players parents wanted them to play on a younger team their parents could just hold them back in school and they'd be eligible to play on that team.

Current club system works; 12 month age window, grades don't matter and no advantage to being to older for your grade. Most rec and school soccer are grade based.

This is the same thing as the current 12 month age window. You're just adding a rule that the 13th, 14th, 15th month players must play with their grade. If 13th 14th 15th month players want to play down they can but their parents will need to hold them back in school.

Grade rules = GY. SY will be given a rule way of at least a few years before being blown up for exceptions.

Trust me nobody wants GY.

This is SY with a rule that players must play with their grade in school.

What you don't like is if a rule saying players must play with their grade is added to SY every argument for GY gets thrown out the window and older (not in the 12 month eligibility window) players will be locked out of playing down. Then all your dreams of GY showcases are gone.

If ECNL really cares that much about implementing this to get kids aligned with their grade. I can guarantee you they will add grad year showcases which is what we don’t want because of hold backs.

Again you’re arguing for something you want which will lead to something you don’t. Be careful what you ask for you.

No ECNL will do is exactly what they do now. Currently u18/u19 plays on the same team.

What you want is u17/u18/u19 on a single team showcase tournaments. Which is essentially GY.

Current Aug-Dec 08s U19s can play U17 for all showcases already in ECNL? They play U19 for league play. They do not force them up for showcases.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they make a rule for a few 100 kids across the country to force them to play up with kids more than 12 months older. If your kid is going to get moved to the second team because there are some august kids a grade older moving to your team then go to another team. This doesn't require some rule that will force some delusional parent of an August kid to hold their kid back a year in school because now they wont be the youngest on the team and will be getting that college scholarship that they already have given away to the academy player from europe.

Mostly it keeps the concept of playing down a grade out of leagues thought processes. It also reinforces that Age and Grade are requirements. What this does is keep the GY holdbacks out. And it aligns teams for college recruiters so all players on the field are graduating a specific year.

It's over. You lost. Your DD will have to beat the Aug girl or find a new team.

Its not a win or lose "battle" although you seem to treat it that way. Not letting Aug/Sept/etc players play down a grade is a concept that will keep gaining traction. It solves all kinds of issues from both a league and club perspective. And it smooths over parents who wont want kids a grade older playing down on their kids team.

Is this like the revenge of the Q1 parents who want FEWER older kids to compete with thanks to making a ton of mostly Q3 kids the youngest on the team?