ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

I can get behind to an extent of what you’re saying for showcases and clubs will want kids aligned by grade as much as possible and make recommendations but for league play they will want to win and compete at the highest level possible. Theres no way clubs would turn down a better player because a player won’t be recruitable?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

I can get behind to an extent of what you’re saying for showcases and clubs will want kids aligned by grade as much as possible and make recommendations but for league play they will want to win and compete at the highest level possible. Theres no way clubs would turn down a better player because a player won’t be recruitable?

And there's no way college coaches would totally ignore a kid playing in the correct age group but different grade, especially if that's the best team they could get on to get seen. Not all clubs/markets/leagues are equal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

If a player is good, age eligible (Aug born) and wants to play within their new age group no coach or team will turn them away. Coaches want to win. Period.
You can cry and complain about it but if that kid is helping win games the only people who would have a problem with it is bench players who play the same positions parents. Everyone else will be happy watching their team compete.

[Anonymous]

Why penalize a kid for being smart and in a higher grade by forcing them to a higher soccer age group?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

I can get behind to an extent of what you’re saying for showcases and clubs will want kids aligned by grade as much as possible and make recommendations but for league play they will want to win and compete at the highest level possible. Theres no way clubs would turn down a better player because a player won’t be recruitable?

And there's no way college coaches would totally ignore a kid playing in the correct age group but different grade, especially if that's the best team they could get on to get seen. Not all clubs/markets/leagues are equal.

100% a senior playing U17 because that’s there age group won’t be told sorry you’re really looking good out there but I wanted to watch you at U19 showcase that all committed players are skipping anyways.
And guess what if that is an issue they can just goto the U19 showcase next time. Why? Because they have the ability to play age group or up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they make a rule for a few 100 kids across the country to force them to play up with kids more than 12 months older. If your kid is going to get moved to the second team because there are some august kids a grade older moving to your team then go to another team. This doesn't require some rule that will force some delusional parent of an August kid to hold their kid back a year in school because now they wont be the youngest on the team and will be getting that college scholarship that they already have given away to the academy player from europe.

Mostly it keeps the concept of playing down a grade out of leagues thought processes. It also reinforces that Age and Grade are requirements. What this does is keep the GY holdbacks out. And it aligns teams for college recruiters so all players on the field are graduating a specific year.

It's over. You lost. Your DD will have to beat the Aug girl or find a new team.

Its not a win or lose "battle" although you seem to treat it that way. Not letting Aug/Sept/etc players play down a grade is a concept that will keep gaining traction. It solves all kinds of issues from both a league and club perspective. And it smooths over parents who wont want kids a grade older playing down on their kids team.

They should come up height and weight limits before they try to go grade year. I hear so many complain about the huge kids but nobody cares about grades.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

I can get behind to an extent of what you’re saying for showcases and clubs will want kids aligned by grade as much as possible and make recommendations but for league play they will want to win and compete at the highest level possible. Theres no way clubs would turn down a better player because a player won’t be recruitable?

When players get older wins don't mean as much as the do when they're younger. It all becomes starts and minutes in front of potential college recruiters wins becomes secondary.

In this environment unrecruitable players playing down waste everyone's time.

[Anonymous]

No one who has a Q2 kid is happy about playing in the correct grade. They all loved playing against kids a year behind.

The change from September to August completely crushed the chances teams would only change a little. That’s why we have all of the complaints about August kids. Hold fast. 12 month grouping is the only window that works for all.

Why don’t the kids who are mis aligned from starting late or being slow hit summer school and catch up to their actual grade?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

I can get behind to an extent of what you’re saying for showcases and clubs will want kids aligned by grade as much as possible and make recommendations but for league play they will want to win and compete at the highest level possible. Theres no way clubs would turn down a better player because a player won’t be recruitable?

And there's no way college coaches would totally ignore a kid playing in the correct age group but different grade, especially if that's the best team they could get on to get seen. Not all clubs/markets/leagues are equal.

100% a senior playing U17 because that’s there age group won’t be told sorry you’re really looking good out there but I wanted to watch you at U19 showcase that all committed players are skipping anyways.
And guess what if that is an issue they can just goto the U19 showcase next time. Why? Because they have the ability to play age group or up.

College coaches dont care about age. All they care about is when players will graduate. It nobody wants a player graduating in year X but is playing down at the Y level. Unrecruitable

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

I can get behind to an extent of what you’re saying for showcases and clubs will want kids aligned by grade as much as possible and make recommendations but for league play they will want to win and compete at the highest level possible. Theres no way clubs would turn down a better player because a player won’t be recruitable?

When players get older wins don't mean as much as the do when they're younger. It all becomes starts and minutes in front of potential college recruiters wins becomes secondary.

In this environment unrecruitable players playing down waste everyone's time.

What's also a waste of time is having super younger kids on these teams because in the wrong age group. Of course, maybe they are just on the bench as a result. Great result!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

I can get behind to an extent of what you’re saying for showcases and clubs will want kids aligned by grade as much as possible and make recommendations but for league play they will want to win and compete at the highest level possible. Theres no way clubs would turn down a better player because a player won’t be recruitable?

And there's no way college coaches would totally ignore a kid playing in the correct age group but different grade, especially if that's the best team they could get on to get seen. Not all clubs/markets/leagues are equal.

100% a senior playing U17 because that’s there age group won’t be told sorry you’re really looking good out there but I wanted to watch you at U19 showcase that all committed players are skipping anyways.
And guess what if that is an issue they can just goto the U19 showcase next time. Why? Because they have the ability to play age group or up.

College coaches dont care about age. All they care about is when players will graduate. It nobody wants a player graduating in year X but is playing down at the Y level. Unrecruitable

Very recruitable if that player is like scoring all the goals or making all the saves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why penalize a kid for being smart and in a higher grade by forcing them to a higher soccer age group?

Doesn't matter its the same situation. This player will be graduating in year X but playing a grade down in year Y. No college coach will want this. They'd be unrecruitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why penalize a kid for being smart and in a higher grade by forcing them to a higher soccer age group?

Because one selfish person hates one August kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

I can get behind to an extent of what you’re saying for showcases and clubs will want kids aligned by grade as much as possible and make recommendations but for league play they will want to win and compete at the highest level possible. Theres no way clubs would turn down a better player because a player won’t be recruitable?

When players get older wins don't mean as much as the do when they're younger. It all becomes starts and minutes in front of potential college recruiters wins becomes secondary.

In this environment unrecruitable players playing down waste everyone's time.

Exactly in THAT they are looking how that player plays, not so much the competition. Do they communicate? How far can they kick the ball? What are their ball skills? Can they pass accurately? What's going on with their weaker foot? These things matter much more than grade. Why? Because when you get to college, you're competing against an age range of 4-5 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple fact, No hard rule on grade to constrain the league itself. League, Club, coaches, and players all need flexibility within the Aug to July 12 window rule to make their decisions on a case by case and year by year basis

Simple fact, you have no idea what clubs will do. The only thing thats been announced is changing from BY to SY

Clubs will pick the biggest, fastest, best players like they always do but now from Aug -Jul. Grades never mattered even if you want them to.

No they wont because players a grade older but playing down a grade are unrecruitable.

I can get behind to an extent of what you’re saying for showcases and clubs will want kids aligned by grade as much as possible and make recommendations but for league play they will want to win and compete at the highest level possible. Theres no way clubs would turn down a better player because a player won’t be recruitable?

And there's no way college coaches would totally ignore a kid playing in the correct age group but different grade, especially if that's the best team they could get on to get seen. Not all clubs/markets/leagues are equal.

100% a senior playing U17 because that’s there age group won’t be told sorry you’re really looking good out there but I wanted to watch you at U19 showcase that all committed players are skipping anyways.
And guess what if that is an issue they can just goto the U19 showcase next time. Why? Because they have the ability to play age group or up.

College coaches dont care about age. All they care about is when players will graduate. It nobody wants a player graduating in year X but is playing down at the Y level. Unrecruitable

Very recruitable if that player is like scoring all the goals or making all the saves.

First question EVERY college coach would ask themself is why is this player playing down a grade. Second question theyd ask themself is how does a player playing diwn a grade compare to other players playing the correct grade level that they could also recruit.

Both questions have no answer. Instead of worrying about it they'll just move on to the next player.