Disagree. They’re simply divergent species of good guy. Penny protected his fellow citizens on a micro level. Mangione did so on a macro level. Both saw something that needed doing, and stepped up. |
It’s hard to muster a lot of sympathy for Little Lord Fauntleroy galavanting around the world, taking up surfing, taking drugs, and then injuring himself in the process. What a loser. |
A 26yo far from home might have decided to handle this all on his own yet felt completely overwhelmed by it. |
And shirtless pictures of him make it clear he has been able to lead and maintain an active lifestyle with an emphasis on intentional physical fitness and weight lifting. |
according to people he lived with in Hawaii, he already had back issues before he moved there. https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/luigi-mangione-suspect-in-fatal-shooting-of-unitedhealthcare-ceo-reported-missing-by-family-after-back-surgery/ |
| He was on psychedelics becajsr his hero is RFK jr |
On a micro level, this kid seemed to have a better quality of life than his parents. He lived in Hawaii, working remotely, surfing, and hanging with friends in this co-working/co-living community. He had the benefit of their wealth, no student debt despite a very expensive education. I don't really feel you can blame this on a generational frustration with income inequality or lack of opportunity because he is one of the lucky ones from his generation. Other Gen Zers definitely feel that way and rightfully so, but I don't see why he would. I think this was more a case of someone with fragile mental health being radicalized online after a few IRL setbacks. He didn't lack for healthcare (had access to good care and the funds to pay for it), he wasn't struggling to buy a home (his parents bought him one), wasn't struggling finding stable work in the "gig economy" (had a good job in a solid field thanks to an expensive BS and MS from Penn, also paid for by his parents). He was very, very fortunate. Yet he became a killer. I think it was just buying into the online rage machine and perhaps being too disconnected from family, combined with underlying and untreated mental illness. This will sound callous and I don't mean it that way because I feel for Thompson's family, but at least he just killed one guy. He'll go to prison for most of the rest of his life. Situations like this are often much, much worse. |
NYPD and Altoona police both confirmed that until the tip from McDonalds came in and the police questioned him, authorities did not have a name of the suspect. Therefore it is pretty easy to assume that means the family did NOT call police (why, I don't know) but if they had called the authorities would have had a name. |
Ding ding ding! This young man had a mental break, likely preciptated by heavy, chronic cannabis use (perhaps along with an underlying psychiatric vulnerability). Sadly, psychosis is a known serious adverse outcome of cannabis use, especially in young brains which are still developing. And significant levels of exposure to violent media, including first-person shooter game, can cause desensitization to violence and increase aggression. Add social media to the mix, and you have a pretty good explanation of how this formerly successful prep school kid ended up taking a bus to NYC to shoot a man in broad daylight. |
The suppressor is absolutely a federal charge. Three charges would be: manufacturing an NFA item without prior approval and registration, possession of unregistered NFA item, and potentially interstate transport of an NFA item to a prohibited state (NY) by someone not licensed as a FFL/SOT II manufacturer of firearms. The gun itself is not a federal charge. It’s only a state charge for possession of unregistered firearm and potentially a high capacity magazine, plus carrying without a permit. |
| I’m not condoning murder. But dude was wealthy and used his free will and will power to do something. There are millions of people screwed by health insurance companies and they just “accept” getting ripped off and negatively impacted by greedy policies and fake bureaucracy. Something has got to give. |
Hard disagree. Penny didn't plan to kill anyone. In fact even in the moment I don't believe he was trying to kill Neely -- I think he used "excessive force" due to adrenaline and the intensity of the moment. Mangione planned and executed an assassination. Thompson was a really terrible person but that's still murder with prior intent. What if Mangione had taken his Ivy League degrees, money from his family, and passion regarding a broken healthcare system (including coming from a family that profited off that system) and become an advocate for changing the system? I think it would be as effective as what he's done but without murdering someone on a city street on a Tuesday morning. |
Give me a freakin break. |
Clearly he wasn't overwhelmed enough to plan a murder. |
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