UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione

+1

There are lots of seriously twisted and perverted people out there. So much justification over an assassination. There are people comparing this to what the founding fathers did for political change and text pretzel logic to reach those conclusions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione

Naw, they are both bad guys

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Anonymous wrote:He is hot. Where is his GoFundMe?

He doesn't need one. His parents are loaded.

He seems like Jack Schlossberg (without the murder). Very attractive, too much privilege and money, everything easy, decides to take off and live in Hawaii and surf all day, because he's so rich he can.

You are inferring a lot. He was an engineer at TrueCar until 2023. Held demanding positions. He was a leader at Penn and Gilman. As others have said, it appears the surgery mucked him up.

Reportedly it was the surfing accident that affected his brain and subsequent behavior changes. The extensive back surgery and chronic pain led him to try questionable mind-altering medications that exacerbated the brain injury/mental breakdown.

Thing is, he clearly had access to surgery and meds and healthcare - through his employer?

Why the heck did he have a gun - if we had red flag laws someone could have prevented or delayed that

He used a 3D printer to make the gun. Red flag laws would have had no impact on this case.

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Anonymous wrote:So basically it came down to him flirting with the hostel worker.

More to NYC cabs having really good cameras.

The smiling picture from the hostel was not really helpful in identifying him.

I don’t get why he looked directly at the camera.

I don’t think it was on purpose, that was probably just him noticing the camera. He looked terrified in that picture.

Uh, he was clearly looking at it. The driver was on the other side. It seemed intentional. Maybe he wanted to get caught, who knows.

Agree — he was leaning forward looking directly at the camera. It was not a coincidence.

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Anonymous wrote:and his sister just posted a story. @lifewithlu__
which was tagged in his 1st IG post.

Sister just posted a pic. The comments are wild.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DDXqC11yBCG/?igsh=dHI2cXpoeHNwNDdo

Well, they took that down! What did she say?

That was not her original account, just someone pretending to be her.
Same with “his” manifesto: looks like someone is using Copilot and ChatGPT to troll.

How do you know that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione

Naw, they are both bad guys

Who would you rather sit next to on the subway?

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know if his huge family and/or friends recognized him from the photos and stayed mum.

This! If a random person in a McDonald’s recognized him from a photo shoeing kart if his face, how in earth could his friends and family not recognize him?! I can’t believe at least one of them didn’t report it.

They said that he was no contact with family. They probably just couldn’t believe that that was him. Nobody thought the rich prep school boy who seemed social and well liked would do this.

People don’t read. We do not know if his family called in or not. They did not know where he was.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News has a video of him being brought to the station. This article has some details about his arrest in the McDs

https://www.foxnews.com/us/local-pennsylvania-officer-hailed-hero-swift-actions-arrest-unitedhealthcare-ceo-murder-suspect

If he had just handed them his real ID, would they have needed a warrant to search his bag?

The legality of the bag search is actually a pretty complicated constitutional question. It turns on details we don’t know, like where the bag was when it was searched, when the defendant was placed under arrest, and observations police made about the bag.

[Anonymous]

Mental illness probably made worse by weed.
Psychosis directed at United Health Care.
Checked out from his family (mental health symptom)
Drifting around the US and elsewhere (another strong mental health symptom)

Back surgeries are notorious for bad outcomes. The reality is his family could have paid cash for him to go to the Mayo Clinic for follow ups on the back surgery gone wrong.

[Anonymous]

Did the shooter have back issues his whole life or did a single surfing incident cause them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mental illness probably made worse by weed.
Psychosis directed at United Health Care.
Checked out from his family (mental health symptom)
Drifting around the US and elsewhere (another strong mental health symptom)

Back surgeries are notorious for bad outcomes. The reality is his family could have paid cash for him to go to the Mayo Clinic for follow ups on the back surgery gone wrong.

There is so many random ignorant statements made on this thread without any kind of information. How do you know he had a bad surgeries? Surgeries aren't silver bullets? How do you know there aren't other circumstances that caused him to problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mental illness probably made worse by weed.
Psychosis directed at United Health Care.
Checked out from his family (mental health symptom)
Drifting around the US and elsewhere (another strong mental health symptom)

Back surgeries are notorious for bad outcomes. The reality is his family could have paid cash for him to go to the Mayo Clinic for follow ups on the back surgery gone wrong.

Curious as to why he didn’t go after the surgeon. Why take it out on the insurance company?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the two big contributors here are going to turn out to be weed (I bet he already used a lot in his frat in college, then it got worse with the back pain, and I’m sure there was free flowing weed in his commune in Hawaii) and playing first person shooter games. Weed absolutely precipitates psychotic illness in kids this age (see here for example: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33617756/). And growing up playing a lot of shooter games (it said several places that he was into them and at one point his goal was to develop his own) inured him to real life repercussions of shooting someone.

Completely agree. Drugs and first person shooter games. Once he had surfing accident and subsequent brain damage, it made this 10x worse. And he tried other illicit drugs for chronic pain.

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Anonymous wrote:He is hot. Where is his GoFundMe?

He doesn't need one. His parents are loaded.

He seems like Jack Schlossberg (without the murder). Very attractive, too much privilege and money, everything easy, decides to take off and live in Hawaii and surf all day, because he's so rich he can.

You are inferring a lot. He was an engineer at TrueCar until 2023. Held demanding positions. He was a leader at Penn and Gilman. As others have said, it appears the surgery mucked him up.

Reportedly it was the surfing accident that affected his brain and subsequent behavior changes. The extensive back surgery and chronic pain led him to try questionable mind-altering medications that exacerbated the brain injury/mental breakdown.

Thing is, he clearly had access to surgery and meds and healthcare - through his employer?

Why the heck did he have a gun - if we had red flag laws someone could have prevented or delayed that

NP here. I have read an interview with the manager of the co-housing/surfing co-op place where he lived in Hawaii (I think on CNN). He had to be interviewed before being accepted as a resident and then he lived there for about 6 months. This guy said in the interview Luigi said he had a history of back problems for most of his life that already existed and was hoping to stay in Hawaii to rest and get stronger. Then he is accepted and moved in, and after his first surfing lesson his back hurt so bad he was in bed in pain for about a week. I am puzzled why someone with such a bad back would take up surfing (it's like the same person thinking learning to ski will help their back pain, huh).

So apparently there isn't a big surfing accident that many are inferring triggered his pain and downfall or that gave him a TBI. Unfortunately it appears he has a long history of back issues which makes me question why, being from the Baltimore area and from a family of significant means and connections, he wasn't treated at JHU (I mean maybe he was), but that is the gold standard in spinal care, especially under Sponsellor (do a search on health forum). I have had severe scoliosis since I was a teen, with chronic back and nerve pain. It's awful. I have been going to Sponsellor for 20 years. He's saved my life. I sympathize with anyone that ha similar issues, but it doesn't make me try to kill people.

It is well known that back surgery is a gamble and often doesn't increase QOL, especially for vertebrae fusions. It sounds like he took to psychedelics for pain relief (instead of narcos). IMO, that is the trigger. Again, just my opinion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mental illness probably made worse by weed.
Psychosis directed at United Health Care.
Checked out from his family (mental health symptom)
Drifting around the US and elsewhere (another strong mental health symptom)

Back surgeries are notorious for bad outcomes. The reality is his family could have paid cash for him to go to the Mayo Clinic for follow ups on the back surgery gone wrong.

Curious as to why he didn’t go after the surgeon. Why take it out on the insurance company?

A lot of speculation about his back and surgery. No one knows. We do know he is able to stand fully upright, run, rock climb, ride a bike, sit on grayhound buses for long periods of time, and sleep in a terrible hostel bed with seemingly little problem.