Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Man. All this damn fighting from grown adults is ridiculous. Can we all agree a mentally disturbed young man, regardless of politics, committed murder and should be punished. Whether you liked Charlie Kirk or not, hopefully we can agree that he didn’t deserve to murdered in broad daylight, especially in front of his wife and two young children. That’s it. Who cares about politics. This is right and wrong. There have been Democrat, Republican, and mentally ill shooters in these past event years. All messed up and wrong, regardless of their motive. He was a father na husband who didn’t deserve to be murdered.

Would normally agree 100% with you, but one side, without knowing who the shooter was or what their politics were, went on hate filled tirades castigating people of certain beliefs contrary to their own. their hate prompted several bombt threats yesterday and will likely inspire more violence regardless of the facts on the ground of this case.

Example:

Nancy Mace acting on disinformation that the shooter was trans: goes off on tirade against "trannies"

Nancy Mace when the actual shooter is a Christian white man: "he's just a poor lost boy, let us pray for him."

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Anonymous wrote:This dude is a chronically online type. He is no normal democrat or republican. I would almost be inclined to calm him an accelerationist (not sure if that’s the right term) more than anything else.

Yet again.

Self radicalization online, grab a gun, be a wannabe hero.

+1 there are some dark effed up corners of the internet. Keep an eye on your kids.

Yes and Charlie Kirk was one of them. Look at how he has radicalized these maga posters.

And there it is. Equating Kirk to his own assassin. It took a while on this thread but I knew it was coming. In your opinion if you are to the left of Mao you are radicalized.

Can you run this through some kind of translator so that it makes sense?

Would it make you feel better if he said that Kirk was a victim of his own success?

This thread has gotten too stupid.

Have fun, though.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs will slither away from this thread now.

Except they haven't. They'll bend reality any direction they have to in order to deflect from the rotten nature of their political culture.

The shooter is more complicated and espouses both left and right ideology.

But because he wrote on the casings antifa slogans , Antifa could be designated a terrorist organization. He will be used to target left winged organizations.

The right wing was going after the ghost-like "antifa" since they first heard of / invented it.

The right wing didn’t invent “antifa”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_City_Antifa

https://rosecityantifa.org/

Disinformation. You’re so dense you can’t even spot it when you see it.

Huh? German communists invented it in the 1930s.

Here's a socialist friendly website to show it

https://jacobin.com/2017/05/antifascist-movements-hitler-nazis-kpd-spd-germany-cold-war

That’s “antifascist”. The article shows no evidence of the abbreviation “antifa” being used back then. Germans love long words.

Now you're just trolling :p

NP.

Antifa absolutely exists and is quite active in the USA;

Antifa is intentionally very secretive and uses encrypted apps like Signal (which was also used by HRC only after she got hacked), to communicate;

Antifa was responsible for a significant amount of the arson and rioting labeled as “BLM” riots, as their interests align.

There is someone on DCUM who has continually attempted to deny Antifa’s existence and minimize its impact.

That person is either an Antifa member, or a sympathizer.

get off of qanon...seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait I thought Netanyahu said islamists were responsible for Charlie Kirk's assassination. Why would he lie?

Netanyahu is busy rolling over Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Man. All this damn fighting from grown adults is ridiculous. Can we all agree a mentally disturbed young man, regardless of politics, committed murder and should be punished. Whether you liked Charlie Kirk or not, hopefully we can agree that he didn’t deserve to murdered in broad daylight, especially in front of his wife and two young children. That’s it. Who cares about politics. This is right and wrong. There have been Democrat, Republican, and mentally ill shooters in these past event years. All messed up and wrong, regardless of their motive. He was a father na husband who didn’t deserve to be murdered.

He wasn’t mentally disturbed. What he did was with pure intent and utter awareness.

It takes a mentally crazy person to assassinate someone in broad daylight. He planned the attack. He is pure evil.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs will slither away from this thread now.

Except they haven't. They'll bend reality any direction they have to in order to deflect from the rotten nature of their political culture.

The shooter is more complicated and espouses both left and right ideology.

But because he wrote on the casings antifa slogans , Antifa could be designated a terrorist organization. He will be used to target left winged organizations.

The right wing was going after the ghost-like "antifa" since they first heard of / invented it.

It doesn’t matter how much you dismiss this. Trump is going to go after antifa. this is the excuse to label it as a terrorist organization. He and his alllies have been wanting to do this his last term.

According the Gov, inscribed on one of the casings was "catch this fascist". Should Trump say "yeah, we're good bro, nothing to see here?"

Are you going to ignore the gay and anti trans jokes he scratched on the bullets too? A lot of it was RPG stuff. This shooter found some extremely dark corners of the internet and it looks like he found them when he was still quite young.

What antitrans jokes?

Anyway all of this is speculation based on statements from known liars with a long history of lying. The public has seen no evidence.

"Notices bulge owo" was scratched on the casings too.

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Anonymous wrote:He was very obviously republican and took issue with Kirk. Kirk did say some pretty inflammatory things.
The Republican Party is splitting because maga is truly separate. And even within maga party there are divisions.

This is cope.

They aren’t splitting.

They are bonding stronger after the left wings mockery of Kirk’s death.

I’m on the left and I don’t know anyone IRL who mocked his death. Everyone I know was disturbed by the violence. Stop claiming that some mythical “left” is mocking his death. A few **holes online don’t represent the left just as all the wackos I see on SM don’t represent all conservatives.

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Anonymous wrote:He wasn’t a Democrat.
He wasn’t a Muslim.
He wasn’t an atheist.
He wasn’t an “illegal.”
He wasn’t a Jew.
He wasn’t the French (and let’s be honest, America always loves blaming the French).

He was ours.

A homegrown, red-blooded, flag-waving domestic terrorist.

The monster we raised, fed a steady diet of rage and conspiracy, and then acted surprised when he pulled the trigger.

This really is America’s special creation. There is no one thing to blame, it’s everything. The guns, mental health, our increasing cold and rageful culture. He was not made in a vacuum.

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Anonymous wrote:Man. All this damn fighting from grown adults is ridiculous. Can we all agree a mentally disturbed young man, regardless of politics, committed murder and should be punished. Whether you liked Charlie Kirk or not, hopefully we can agree that he didn’t deserve to murdered in broad daylight, especially in front of his wife and two young children. That’s it. Who cares about politics. This is right and wrong. There have been Democrat, Republican, and mentally ill shooters in these past event years. All messed up and wrong, regardless of their motive. He was a father na husband who didn’t deserve to be murdered.

Guns and 2A are the common denominator.

No, being online is. Young men spending too much time online that maybe are prone to mental instability or have some underlying problem are always the ones doing this.

Music previously took the blame.

Ok, I’ll play along. Sure being online is the issue. Limit the access and means to deadly weapons. Won’t resolve all the gun violence but surely it’ll help reduce.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump has been itching to use this as an excuse to wreak vengeance on Dems. What’s he going to do now that the narrative isn’t so convenient?

They’re inventing a new narrative.

They don’t need to. What Robison wrote on the bullets is enough.

The media is consistently reporting that police found three unfired bullets inside the chamber of the rifle used by Robinson.

The three unified bullets were inscribed with left-wing slogans like “Hey fascist! Catch!”

The slogans were accompanied by left-wing symbols, like an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows.

Symbols have meanings. Politically slogans have meanings.

The meaning here is clear.

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Anonymous wrote:Many fail to understand that there can be conservative and democrat within the same household. My sister is a democrat amongst all of our conservative family members. The shooters family is conservative, but his father said he was concerned about his son encase he had become “ full of hate”. He had a family dinner where he mentioned Charlie Kirk coming to the Utah college and how he hated him for his beliefs. Make no mistake, the “ full of hate” was because he was a leftist.

But does your sister still live in the house with you? Most leftists raised in right wing families leave the home ASAP. Usually also the state, if the stat is Utah, South Dakota, North Dakota or Montana.

Yes. She still lives with my parents and her brother. Very much a leftist and my parents have always been staunchly conservative.

Well, unless she's a murderer that's not quite relevant. I doubt she is.

Conservative does not equal maga. I know many reasonable people who are republicans but don’t agree with maga party line

But they haven't split off and disavowed themselves of MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:Man. All this damn fighting from grown adults is ridiculous. Can we all agree a mentally disturbed young man, regardless of politics, committed murder and should be punished. Whether you liked Charlie Kirk or not, hopefully we can agree that he didn’t deserve to murdered in broad daylight, especially in front of his wife and two young children. That’s it. Who cares about politics. This is right and wrong. There have been Democrat, Republican, and mentally ill shooters in these past event years. All messed up and wrong, regardless of their motive. He was a father na husband who didn’t deserve to be murdered.

He wasn’t mentally disturbed. What he did was with pure intent and utter awareness.

It takes a mentally crazy person to assassinate someone in broad daylight. He planned the attack. He is pure evil.

on equal footing with Kirk.

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Anonymous wrote:Man. All this damn fighting from grown adults is ridiculous. Can we all agree a mentally disturbed young man, regardless of politics, committed murder and should be punished. Whether you liked Charlie Kirk or not, hopefully we can agree that he didn’t deserve to murdered in broad daylight, especially in front of his wife and two young children. That’s it. Who cares about politics. This is right and wrong. There have been Democrat, Republican, and mentally ill shooters in these past event years. All messed up and wrong, regardless of their motive. He was a father na husband who didn’t deserve to be murdered.

Guns and 2A are the common denominator.

No, being online is. Young men spending too much time online that maybe are prone to mental instability or have some underlying problem are always the ones doing this.

It's everybody, not just young men. Society is breaking down because people are unable to separate their internet life from their real life.

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Pretty sure Tyler Robinson was a groyper.

https://bsky.app/profile/iwriteok.bsky.social/post/3lynfxustfc2e

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Anonymous wrote:Trump has been itching to use this as an excuse to wreak vengeance on Dems. What’s he going to do now that the narrative isn’t so convenient?

They’re inventing a new narrative.

They don’t need to. What Robison wrote on the bullets is enough.

The media is consistently reporting that police found three unfired bullets inside the chamber of the rifle used by Robinson.

The three unified bullets were inscribed with left-wing slogans like “Hey fascist! Catch!”

The slogans were accompanied by left-wing symbols, like an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows.

Symbols have meanings. Politically slogans have meanings.

The meaning here is clear.

Sure, keep hope alive I guess...