I wish society didn't encourage people to put off having kids.

Anonymous
God has a special plan for all the people out there who think that exercise and eating right is all you need to do to live happy and healthy to 100. It’s just arrogance.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I hope you support paid family leave and universal affordable childcare, and candidates that push for those policies.


This!

And I had my oldest when I was 21


NP. I do not support paid family leave or universal childcare. If you can't afford children, stop having them ..your kids are not the tax payer's financial responsibility.


Why not? All tax payers need younger generations. Who is going to care for you in your nursing home?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:God has a special plan for all the people out there who think that exercise and eating right is all you need to do to live happy and healthy to 100. It’s just arrogance.


What an odd response. No one can INDIVIDUALLY predict they will live to a 100 but on a population level, yes, in healthy populations people are living longer. It's not arrogance, it's science. Life expectancy is shorter in some communities recently because of the opioid epidemic and other addictions, but in other populations it is increasing. And in human history, there were civilizations who didn't live past 30s. So this notion of everyone in history being alive to enjoy grandkids is silly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope you support paid family leave and universal affordable childcare, and candidates that push for those policies.


This!

And I had my oldest when I was 21


NP. I do not support paid family leave or universal childcare. If you can't afford children, stop having them ..your kids are not the tax payer's financial responsibility.


Why not? All tax payers need younger generations. Who is going to care for you in your nursing home?


I paid for my kids, you pay for yours. Also, I do not expect my children to take care of me in my old age. I have paid into Medicare since my first job. Stop living above your means and you can stay home and take care of your own kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God has a special plan for all the people out there who think that exercise and eating right is all you need to do to live happy and healthy to 100. It’s just arrogance.


What an odd response. No one can INDIVIDUALLY predict they will live to a 100 but on a population level, yes, in healthy populations people are living longer. It's not arrogance, it's science. Life expectancy is shorter in some communities recently because of the opioid epidemic and other addictions, but in other populations it is increasing. And in human history, there were civilizations who didn't live past 30s. So this notion of everyone in history being alive to enjoy grandkids is silly.


I agree that was an odd response, but it’s also an odd premise. You are deluding yourself if you think you could start having kids at 40+ and then live to be 100 and see your grandkids grow up. Come on get serious. That is total rationalization for your own poor decision making. It ain’t gonna happen.

All things being equal, it is unquestionably better to have kids young.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope you support paid family leave and universal affordable childcare, and candidates that push for those policies.


This!

And I had my oldest when I was 21


NP. I do not support paid family leave or universal childcare. If you can't afford children, stop having them ..your kids are not the tax payer's financial responsibility.


Why not? All tax payers need younger generations. Who is going to care for you in your nursing home?


I paid for my kids, you pay for yours. Also, I do not expect my children to take care of me in my old age. I have paid into Medicare since my first job. Stop living above your means and you can stay home and take care of your own kids.


what are you prattling about? I wouldn’t want to SAHM if you paid me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope you support paid family leave and universal affordable childcare, and candidates that push for those policies.


This!

And I had my oldest when I was 21


NP. I do not support paid family leave or universal childcare. If you can't afford children, stop having them ..your kids are not the tax payer's financial responsibility.


Why not? All tax payers need younger generations. Who is going to care for you in your nursing home?


I paid for my kids, you pay for yours. Also, I do not expect my children to take care of me in my old age. I have paid into Medicare since my first job. Stop living above your means and you can stay home and take care of your own kids.


what are you prattling about? I wouldn’t want to SAHM if you paid me.


Ditto. SAHM is not for me either. Also depending on your age, Medicare might not be around when you are older unless there is a big enough younger working generation to pay into it especially as people live longer. We are saving and planning for retirement without depending on Medicare. If the program is still viable then it’s an added bonus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope you support paid family leave and universal affordable childcare, and candidates that push for those policies.


This!

And I had my oldest when I was 21


NP. I do not support paid family leave or universal childcare. If you can't afford children, stop having them ..your kids are not the tax payer's financial responsibility.


Why not? All tax payers need younger generations. Who is going to care for you in your nursing home?


I paid for my kids, you pay for yours. Also, I do not expect my children to take care of me in my old age. I have paid into Medicare since my first job. Stop living above your means and you can stay home and take care of your own kids.


Everyone I’ve ever heard say this drives on public-funded roads, buys gas at far less than the true cost (ie the cost of our war in Iraq is not priced in), hires people who went to public schools, and lives safely because of publicly funded fire and police and military’s

Hey- I am proud to pay for the roads I drive in by paying taxes. If you don’t want to pay into society, stop driving.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope you support paid family leave and universal affordable childcare, and candidates that push for those policies.


This!

And I had my oldest when I was 21


NP. I do not support paid family leave or universal childcare. If you can't afford children, stop having them ..your kids are not the tax payer's financial responsibility.


Why not? All tax payers need younger generations. Who is going to care for you in your nursing home?


I paid for my kids, you pay for yours. Also, I do not expect my children to take care of me in my old age. I have paid into Medicare since my first job. Stop living above your means and you can stay home and take care of your own kids.


Everyone I’ve ever heard say this drives on public-funded roads, buys gas at far less than the true cost (ie the cost of our war in Iraq is not priced in), hires people who went to public schools, and lives safely because of publicly funded fire and police and military’s

Hey- I am proud to pay for the roads I drive in by paying taxes. If you don’t want to pay into society, stop driving.


Yep, and we won’t have any sympathy for her kids once they have kids and can’t afford childcare and can’t afford to stay home, much less take care of her. Then once she runs out of money and can’t afford being in a nursing home, let’s not give her Medicaid either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God has a special plan for all the people out there who think that exercise and eating right is all you need to do to live happy and healthy to 100. It’s just arrogance.


What an odd response. No one can INDIVIDUALLY predict they will live to a 100 but on a population level, yes, in healthy populations people are living longer. It's not arrogance, it's science. Life expectancy is shorter in some communities recently because of the opioid epidemic and other addictions, but in other populations it is increasing. And in human history, there were civilizations who didn't live past 30s. So this notion of everyone in history being alive to enjoy grandkids is silly.


I agree that was an odd response, but it’s also an odd premise. You are deluding yourself if you think you could start having kids at 40+ and then live to be 100 and see your grandkids grow up. Come on get serious. That is total rationalization for your own poor decision making. It ain’t gonna happen.

All things being equal, it is unquestionably better to have kids young.


I did no such thing. Had kids at 32 and 35 and that was perfect time for us. Zero regrets about not having them younger. But you are delusional if you think having kids in your 20s protects you from dying young or guarantees grandkids.
Anonymous
Ok here is a zinger for you people. I battled unexplained fertility in my mid-late twenties. Got pregnant finally at age 32 and have been getting pregnant easily (first month of trying) ever since. I am on baby #5 no at age 37. Guess nature or God didn't think my 20s was ideal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope you support paid family leave and universal affordable childcare, and candidates that push for those policies.


This!

And I had my oldest when I was 21


NP. I do not support paid family leave or universal childcare. If you can't afford children, stop having them ..your kids are not the tax payer's financial responsibility.


Why not? All tax payers need younger generations. Who is going to care for you in your nursing home?


I paid for my kids, you pay for yours. Also, I do not expect my children to take care of me in my old age. I have paid into Medicare since my first job. Stop living above your means and you can stay home and take care of your own kids.


Everyone I’ve ever heard say this drives on public-funded roads, buys gas at far less than the true cost (ie the cost of our war in Iraq is not priced in), hires people who went to public schools, and lives safely because of publicly funded fire and police and military’s

Hey- I am proud to pay for the roads I drive in by paying taxes. If you don’t want to pay into society, stop driving.


Yep, and we won’t have any sympathy for her kids once they have kids and can’t afford childcare and can’t afford to stay home, much less take care of her. Then once she runs out of money and can’t afford being in a nursing home, let’s not give her Medicaid either.


She figures robots are going to change her depends and feed her the puree
Anonymous
I had My kids at 40 and I would agree - because if I had my kids ten years earlier then I would have had ten years more on this earth with them and I love them so could imagine nothing better.

However, I did not have a partner until i was 36’and then had fertility problems so I can’t saw that I “chose” to wait. It is kind of annoying that people like op assume everyone who had kids late “chose” to do so
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Very glad I live in a society where women have the choice (and methods) to never have children. We still have a lot of work to do to get the point where it's not just assumed that every woman will or wants to be a broodmare.


+1000! I'm a 30yo woman who is doing my PhD and I have long decided that I am childfree by choice. My grandmother didn't have the same choices I have- she was illiterate and coerced into marriage and bore 7 children- with no pain meds. Her life sucked and I wish more people can realize just how recent it has been in human history for a woman to exercise her reproductive choices. Unless of course you're in Alabama.


I have an Ivy League PhD and 3 kids. You sound clueless.


Why does PP sound clueless? Women having control over their reproductive choices is a very recent development, even in the West. It's good that women can choose for themselves if and when they want children.


she sounds clueless because she is only 30 and “has long decided to be childless. how long can that be?
also she is clueless for using her grandma as relevant alternative to pursing a PhD. plenty of women have kids, careers and advanced degrees.


I'm the PP with the illiterate grandmother. I have never desired a child of my own and resent it when people question me about it. One Trumpster relative of my husband told me that it's my duty as a woman to reproduce. That's nuts. I'm happy for women who want to and get to be mothers but I also hope that they respect my being childfree. I would never question a mother and ask why she chose to have kids, but somehow that respect isn't mutual.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ok here is a zinger for you people. I battled unexplained fertility in my mid-late twenties. Got pregnant finally at age 32 and have been getting pregnant easily (first month of trying) ever since. I am on baby #5 no at age 37. Guess nature or God didn't think my 20s was ideal.

Not a zinger, just unusual.
Congratulations on your babies.
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