Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

[Anonymous]

That being said, your post shows in terms of real estate prices that has not been the case at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the social experiment?

Should people just move out of moco if they can’t afford Potomac? Is it going to be that dire?

Why should they? Some people like to live in a area where the school is good, it is natural. But you don't always get what you want, that is natural too.
As long as the schools are doing what they are supposed to, I don't see a problem.

Some people just want to see all schools in the county to perform at the same high level. I do not see a problem for people wanting to achieve that. But if they propose something that is bad for kids going to the current high performing schools, I call that social engineering and consider that bad - does not matter what their real intentions are.

Yes, school desegregation is social engineering. But school segregation is also social engineering. How things are in Montgomery County right now is the result of social engineering. Anything the government does that affects how people live -- which is basically everything -- is social engineering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To these people bizarrely saying Silver Spring and anything near University Blvd. is the ghetto:

I am zoned for Northwood and said earlier that I am worried about eastern MoCo becoming a suburban ghetto. I don't think it's likely, but I do worry about the possibility that most of the high earners leave while more and more of the low-earners come.

What do you mean by "suburban ghetto"? Do you mean "place in the suburbs inhabited mostly by people who are poor and not white"?

[Anonymous]

Well suburban is talking about the trend of wealth moving back to inner cities and leaving the low-income earners with long commutes in depressed suburbs

Yes, a place that is mostly poor can be a "ghetto." Race is correlated with income in this area, but not a defining factor for me.

I know the word ghetto has roots in race/culture so you can pick a different word for 'predominantly low-income area with high-income people moving out due to concerns about schools and low-income people moving in as prices get even lower'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well suburban is talking about the trend of wealth moving back to inner cities and leaving the low-income earners with long commutes in depressed suburbs

Yes, a place that is mostly poor can be a "ghetto." Race is correlated with income in this area, but not a defining factor for me.

I know the word ghetto has roots in race/culture so you can pick a different word for 'predominantly low-income area with high-income people moving out due to concerns about schools and low-income people moving in as prices get even lower'

But the real estate prices aren't getting even lower.

[Anonymous]

Right, it has not happened. It is just something that people are worried about.

[Anonymous]

In general, the worry about being left behind by Virginia/DC in terms of jobs and desirability and by being burdened with a population that uses more than they give back in terms of public services/taxes

[Anonymous]

I live in Potomac and I'm very worried about real-estate not keeping up and its impact on the schools. These days people are abandoning the burbs for closer in areas that are quickly becoming more desirable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in Potomac and I'm very worried about real-estate not keeping up and its impact on the schools. These days people are abandoning the burbs for closer in areas that are quickly becoming more desirable.

You should be worried. Between Whitman's declining test scores and the neverending racial incidents at places like Churchill, it's evident this has already happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To these people bizarrely saying Silver Spring and anything near University Blvd. is the ghetto:

(Copied from another thread):

Here in descending order (from biggest to smallest) are the changes in average home sales price since the 2008 recession, by high school cluster (Blair, Northwood, and Einstein alone have gone up 200%... and two of them are actually ON University Blvd!).

Blair
Northwood
Einstein
B-CC
Rockville
Whitman
Wheaton
Gaithersburg
Damascus
Paint Branch
Quince Orchard
Sherwood
Watkins Mill
Churchill
Poolesville
Seneca Valley
MONTGOMERY COUNTY OVERALL
Magruder
Springbrook
Blake
Northwest
Walter Johnson
Richard Montgomery
Wootton
Clarksburg
Kennedy

https://montgomeryplanning.org/blog-design/2019/02...i60MxPYxKBIxw0MgSIagrN6Yzc1dPY

Has anyone done a comparison using a national test like SAT scores across larger common cohorts to factor demographic differences?

Yes, you can get a sense of how one school stacks up to another by looking beyond simple demographic differences. The data is available from MCPS at the link below, but an abbreviated follows:

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Poolesville 1259
Churchill 1257

https://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/shared...c_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

Interesting report that confirms what I'd already suspected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in Potomac and I'm very worried about real-estate not keeping up and its impact on the schools. These days people are abandoning the burbs for closer in areas that are quickly becoming more desirable.

I'd worry about that too, honestly. Younger people typically don't want to live in areas as car-dependent as Potomac and also can't afford it. That's reflected in the Potomac elementary schools, which are undercrowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Potomac and I'm very worried about real-estate not keeping up and its impact on the schools. These days people are abandoning the burbs for closer in areas that are quickly becoming more desirable.

You should be worried. Between Whitman's declining test scores and the neverending racial incidents at places like Churchill, it's evident this has already happened.

NP here. What a perplexing statement. How are declining test scores (which we know was done by Whitman deliberately to say F.U. to the tests) and racial incidents evidence that people are abandoning schools in the burbs? I fail to get the correlation. ARe you saying that the smart and non-racist people have left for the city or places closer in? Signed, by a non-W parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Potomac and I'm very worried about real-estate not keeping up and its impact on the schools. These days people are abandoning the burbs for closer in areas that are quickly becoming more desirable.

You should be worried. Between Whitman's declining test scores and the neverending racial incidents at places like Churchill, it's evident this has already happened.

NP here. What a perplexing statement. How are declining test scores (which we know was done by Whitman deliberately to say F.U. to the tests) and racial incidents evidence that people are abandoning schools in the burbs? I fail to get the correlation. ARe you saying that the smart and non-racist people have left for the city or places closer in? Signed, by a non-W parent

Don't worry, that was just our friendly DCUM racist troll chiming in with jealousy and delusion. Facts don't matter to Ms. Troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Potomac and I'm very worried about real-estate not keeping up and its impact on the schools. These days people are abandoning the burbs for closer in areas that are quickly becoming more desirable.

You should be worried. Between Whitman's declining test scores and the neverending racial incidents at places like Churchill, it's evident this has already happened.

NP here. What a perplexing statement. How are declining test scores (which we know was done by Whitman deliberately to say F.U. to the tests) and racial incidents evidence that people are abandoning schools in the burbs? I fail to get the correlation. ARe you saying that the smart and non-racist people have left for the city or places closer in? Signed, by a non-W parent

Don't worry, that was just our friendly DCUM racist troll chiming in with jealousy and delusion. Facts don't matter to Ms. Troll.

I heard the lower scores at Kennedy were deliberate, but the scores at Whitman were a symptom of its continued slide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Potomac and I'm very worried about real-estate not keeping up and its impact on the schools. These days people are abandoning the burbs for closer in areas that are quickly becoming more desirable.

I'd worry about that too, honestly. Younger people typically don't want to live in areas as car-dependent as Potomac and also can't afford it. That's reflected in the Potomac elementary schools, which are undercrowded.

Yep, younger familiar want to live closer in.