Gonzaga Kairos Vandalism

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you. Our son is a rising freshman and GZ is one of 3 schools to which he applied. Not presuming he's accepted, but truly to help us in our decision matrix, are you able to share which sport/team was represented in the group of vandals? Is there someplace we can find out the "cultures" of the different sports teams? Please don't beat me up over this question. Thanks.

Earlier in the comments on this post, someone referenced baseball...

Gonzaga parent here. Heard it was a combo of boys from the lacrosse and baseball teams. Star players involved w/elite college aspirations so doubt expulsions will be the punishment (though it should be).

As a Gonzaga parent you don’t know the truth. Please stop spreading rumors. If you are a current parent please just stop.

NP here and GZ parent. The majority of the students involved were from one particular sport. It was neither of the sports mentioned so far in this thread. I will leave it at that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you. Our son is a rising freshman and GZ is one of 3 schools to which he applied. Not presuming he's accepted, but truly to help us in our decision matrix, are you able to share which sport/team was represented in the group of vandals? Is there someplace we can find out the "cultures" of the different sports teams? Please don't beat me up over this question. Thanks.

Earlier in the comments on this post, someone referenced baseball...

Gonzaga parent here. Heard it was a combo of boys from the lacrosse and baseball teams. Star players involved w/elite college aspirations so doubt expulsions will be the punishment (though it should be).

As a Gonzaga parent you don’t know the truth. Please stop spreading rumors. If you are a current parent please just stop.

NP here and GZ parent. The majority of the students involved were from one particular sport. It was neither of the sports mentioned so far in this thread. I will leave it at that.

Probably rowers. Roid rage would be one explanation - there's been rumors for a while of steroid use at GZ.

[Anonymous]

It’s not about the specific sport you idiots.

[Anonymous]

It’s not about the specific sport you idiots.

I did not mean to imply it was "about the specific sport" but am trying to determine the overall culture and subculture of the school. Again, I have a rising 9th grade applicant. I also have 4 older kids who did not attend GZ but have all been successful high school and even Division 1 athletes at colleges that they selected based *on academics.* It is indisputable that different sports cultivate and embrace different cultures. These are not necessarily better, but certainly distinct. The cross-country culture will differ from the rugby culture. While this terrible event does in fact reflect on the overall school community and leadership, it also reflects on the individuals who did it, and if boys from a particular team did it, it reflects on that team.

We are not idiots, we get what has happened here.

[Anonymous]

....actually they did not base decisions on academics, but they have chosen their colleges based on academics, culture, and their desire to contribute to this world as faithful citizens. And that is what I am trying to do here with my #5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not about the specific sport you idiots.

A tone in your response indicative of the type of person associated with Gonzaga. Way to continue to show is the truth.

[Anonymous]

This is extremely embarrassing for the Gonzaga community, and many faculty members agree. The initial reaction was to find an enormous rug to try to sweep this under. Only after word got out did the administration start talking about punishment. They're biggest concerns are protecting the school's name and not angering wealthy parents/donors. Little concern about teaching these young boys (these were not the actions of men) about respect for others, and that actions have consequences. In his statement about the incident, Father Planning twice referred to the actions of the boys as "mistakes." These were not mistakes. They were blatant, intentional acts of vandalism by a bunch of privileged, entitled kids. They completely destroyed one structure AND WENT BACK THE NEXT DAY TO VANDALIZE ANOTHER, INCLUDING THE CAR IN THE GARAGE. Presumably they had some time for a little spiritual reflection in between. Father Planning is a joke and the Gonzaga administration should be ashamed of itself. "Men for others"? Hardly. Change the school's motto to "boys for themselves".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you. Our son is a rising freshman and GZ is one of 3 schools to which he applied. Not presuming he's accepted, but truly to help us in our decision matrix, are you able to share which sport/team was represented in the group of vandals? Is there someplace we can find out the "cultures" of the different sports teams? Please don't beat me up over this question. Thanks.

Earlier in the comments on this post, someone referenced baseball...

Gonzaga parent here. Heard it was a combo of boys from the lacrosse and baseball teams. Star players involved w/elite college aspirations so doubt expulsions will be the punishment (though it should be).

As a Gonzaga parent you don’t know the truth. Please stop spreading rumors. If you are a current parent please just stop.

NP here and GZ parent. The majority of the students involved were from one particular sport. It was neither of the sports mentioned so far in this thread. I will leave it at that.

+1

[Anonymous]

Today's Gonzaga is much different than the Gonzaga of 30+ years ago. I would never send my son there today.

[Anonymous]

As a Gonzaga alum, the whole thing is just a gut punch. And if the rumors of the kids not being punished is true, then IDK what to say. Honestly, ever since the incident with the math teacher a couple of years back, I've kinda been disappointed with the school and their lack of...IDK what's the word, openness about things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is extremely embarrassing for the Gonzaga community, and many faculty members agree. The initial reaction was to find an enormous rug to try to sweep this under. Only after word got out did the administration start talking about punishment. They're biggest concerns are protecting the school's name and not angering wealthy parents/donors. Little concern about teaching these young boys (these were not the actions of men) about respect for others, and that actions have consequences. In his statement about the incident, Father Planning twice referred to the actions of the boys as "mistakes." These were not mistakes. They were blatant, intentional acts of vandalism by a bunch of privileged, entitled kids. They completely destroyed one structure AND WENT BACK THE NEXT DAY TO VANDALIZE ANOTHER, INCLUDING THE CAR IN THE GARAGE. Presumably they had some time for a little spiritual reflection in between. Father Planning is a joke and the Gonzaga administration should be ashamed of itself. "Men for others"? Hardly. Change the school's motto to "boys for themselves".

Yeah, I also noted his use of the word "mistakes." If a group of inner city kids were caught spray painting graffiti on the front of Gonzaga's building, maybe throwing a brick through a window, do you think Planning would label it a mistake and just let them go?

[Anonymous]

Gonzaga Alumni here...

KAIROS generally consists of anywhere from 40-50 kids, so it's safe to say the Post wrote the article in such a way that lead readers to believe the entire group participated. From what I know, it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 kids - give or take a few.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you. Our son is a rising freshman and GZ is one of 3 schools to which he applied. Not presuming he's accepted, but truly to help us in our decision matrix, are you able to share which sport/team was represented in the group of vandals? Is there someplace we can find out the "cultures" of the different sports teams? Please don't beat me up over this question. Thanks.

Knowing which "sport/team was represented in the group of vandals" should have no bearing on whether or not you decide to send your son to Gonzaga.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you. Our son is a rising freshman and GZ is one of 3 schools to which he applied. Not presuming he's accepted, but truly to help us in our decision matrix, are you able to share which sport/team was represented in the group of vandals? Is there someplace we can find out the "cultures" of the different sports teams? Please don't beat me up over this question. Thanks.

Knowing which "sport/team was represented in the group of vandals" should have no bearing on whether or not you decide to send your son to Gonzaga.

Why do you say that? If my kid were very focused on his sport and planned to play it in HS, and I found out that a majority of the kids actively involved in the vandalism played that same sport, it would definitely make me think twice about sending him. As the PP noted, different schools and teams can have different cultures, and that's something it makes perfect sense to investigate if sports are your kid's primary extracurricular.

[Anonymous]

People who post in the Private School Forum usually have an agenda. Do you think the person who created this thread intended to foster a productive discussion? Look at the initial post. People come here looking for a fight. It's a bizarre and toxic culture.