Recent suicides at Langley HS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the things that the kids were depressed about are known I just don't think anyone thought it would rise to the level of taking their own lives. That's the thing about depression it is irrational-- it's a disease that unless you have it or have had it you have trouble understanding.

That is not true. Depression can have some really specific causes. Remove those causes and depression lifts.

You clearly aren't familiar with depression on a personal level. You're talking about stress, or maybe sadness. Depression is a disease which affects brain chemistry. If left untreated, it can lead to suicide.

You clearly need some continuing education:

1. Depression typically STARTS with extreme stress and/or sadness.
2. If the issues are not productively and effectively dealt with, they tend to escalate.
3. Everything affects brain chemistry, Einstein.

http://uhs.berkeley.edu/lookforthesigns/depressionsuicide.shtml

This page has very good definitions of clinical depression. Those of us who suffer from it know that it does not have to start with any specific event or stress. It just starts building, usually over a long period of time. It is very patronizing to imply that there must be a cause and if that cause is removed, all will be well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At TL's memorial service yesterday, his football coach said he'd been battling 'this disease every minute of every day for three years' and the family asked that in lieu of flowers, donations be made to a fund to help educate teens about mental illness.

Was he on meds?

[Anonymous]

Frankly, that is none of my business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, that is none of my business.

Frankly, if you have any interest in reducing this kind of trauma, you need to learn as much as possible, no? Most kids tend to be open about their prescription meds, from what I know.

[Anonymous]

To be perfectly honest, these posters don't know the boy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be perfectly honest, these posters don't know the boy.

Do you know anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the things that the kids were depressed about are known I just don't think anyone thought it would rise to the level of taking their own lives. That's the thing about depression it is irrational-- it's a disease that unless you have it or have had it you have trouble understanding.
That is not true. Depression can have some really specific causes. Remove those causes and depression lifts.

You clearly aren't familiar with depression on a personal level. You're talking about stress, or maybe sadness. Depression is a disease which affects brain chemistry. If left untreated, it can lead to suicide.

http://uhs.berkeley.edu/lookforthesigns/depressionsuicide.shtml

This page has very good definitions of clinical depression. Those of us who suffer from it know that it does not have to start with any specific event or stress. It just starts building, usually over a long period of time. It is very patronizing to imply that there must be a cause and if that cause is removed, all will be well.

I'm very sorry for your pain and wish we as a society knew more about ways to help the depressed and others with mental illnesses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the things that the kids were depressed about are known I just don't think anyone thought it would rise to the level of taking their own lives. That's the thing about depression it is irrational-- it's a disease that unless you have it or have had it you have trouble understanding.
That is not true. Depression can have some really specific causes. Remove those causes and depression lifts.

You clearly aren't familiar with depression on a personal level. You're talking about stress, or maybe sadness. Depression is a disease which affects brain chemistry. If left untreated, it can lead to suicide.

http://uhs.berkeley.edu/lookforthesigns/depressionsuicide.shtml

This page has very good definitions of clinical depression. Those of us who suffer from it know that it does not have to start with any specific event or stress. It just starts building, usually over a long period of time. It is very patronizing to imply that there must be a cause and if that cause is removed, all will be well.

I'm very sorry for your pain and wish we as a society knew more about ways to help the depressed and others with mental illnesses.

How can we hope to reduce mental illness if we refuse to consider the various causes of mental illness?

[Anonymous]

One child on meds has nothing to do with another on meds. Meds are not a cureall for depression.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One child on meds has nothing to do with another on meds. Meds are not a cureall for depression.

No one said meds are a cure all for depression, or that two individuals are the same. We know that. What are you getting at?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To be perfectly honest, these posters don't know the boy.

Do you know anything?

I know a lot first hand. But what is known publicly is that the family of the second boy (the first family does not want anything publicly known) has asked that donations in his memory be made to the Josh Anderson Foundation for teenagers dealing with depression.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be perfectly honest, these posters don't know the boy.

Do you know anything?

I know a lot first hand. But what is known publicly is that the family of the second boy (the first family does not want anything publicly known) has asked that donations in his memory be made to the Josh Anderson Foundation for teenagers dealing with depression.

How are the funds spent?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be perfectly honest, these posters don't know the boy.

Do you know anything?

I know a lot first hand. But what is known publicly is that the family of the second boy (the first family does not want anything publicly known) has asked that donations in his memory be made to the Josh Anderson Foundation for teenagers dealing with depression.

How are the funds spent?

I'm sure a Google search search would provide that information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be perfectly honest, these posters don't know the boy.

Do you know anything?

I know a lot first hand. But what is known publicly is that the family of the second boy (the first family does not want anything publicly known) has asked that donations in his memory be made to the Josh Anderson Foundation for teenagers dealing with depression.

How are the funds spent?

I'm sure a Google search search would provide that information.

Thanks. Just read about Josh's nightmare. He was also a student at Langley. I appreciate how much his family shared. Perhaps the current two families will be ready at some point in the future. We have so much to learn here. But how can we, if the secrets are hushed? We know that some medications are prone to cause suicidal tendencies. But if neither student was using prescriptions, then that wasn't a factor here. But we have no clue, so let's keep guessing what factors played into these two tragedies. What have we learned?

[Anonymous]

We have learned that we need to teach our children resilience. I have not heard any similarities between the two recent cases and the Anderson case.