Summer swim brings out the crazy

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Anonymous wrote:Tech suit sighting on a 10 year old at our B meet last night…🙄🙄🙄

Take a deep breath. Are you sure it wasn't a hand-me down? We give suits away (tech and non-tech) after kids grow out of them. Some families are happy to take them as-is.

It was most definitely not a hand me down. It was a “I will do anything to keep my kid at the top of the ladder.” It is just another example of the over the top craziness of some parents who don’t get the concept that summer swim is for fun. This little child was the only one wearing one and looked silly. And many people were commenting about it.

You are making it not fun by judging other families. Remember club swimmers can be 10 and swim b meets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many summer teams have "special lanes" for club swimmers. I feel like our club is about to have a parent mutiny.

The irony of not recognizing that you are the one being crazy here. Of course lanes have to be separated by speed.

No, the rule isn't by speed they had to explicitly state "club", because many of the club swimmers aren't that fast.

[Anonymous]

The cost isn’t the issue. The issue is the mindset “I must be atop the ladder, so I’ll gain any advantage by wearing a tech suit, when every other kid wears a training suit.” Great frickin teammate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many summer teams have "special lanes" for club swimmers. I feel like our club is about to have a parent mutiny.

The irony of not recognizing that you are the one being crazy here. Of course lanes have to be separated by speed.

No, the rule isn't by speed they had to explicitly state "club", because many of the club swimmers aren't that fast.

The club swimmers are used to doing the laps and keep a better form with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The cost isn’t the issue. The issue is the mindset “I must be atop the ladder, so I’ll gain any advantage by wearing a tech suit, when every other kid wears a training suit.” Great frickin teammate.

tech suits may take off a second or two but they aren't going to make a slow kid faster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many summer teams have "special lanes" for club swimmers. I feel like our club is about to have a parent mutiny.

We don't but it would be nice.

Agree with this. Or just some separation based on experience. My youngest is 8 and there's a huge range at this age. Some are consistently legal in all four strokes, while some are still dog paddling to get down the length of the pool. But they are all working on the same thing at the same time. They could easily have the 1-2 lanes with the more experienced kids work on refining their strokes and building a little stamina and putting together a 100 IM. They're trying to teach the group breaststroke kick right now, one lap at a time with very long breaks in between while they wait for everyone to finish. The kids who already know how to do it are bored and acting up while they wait for everyone. Save for the very naturally talented kids, the ones who just started swimming do not yet have the body awareness to get the hang of the kick/timing. They need a few more weeks of swimming every day to even get close to resembling the stroke. We have so many teen helper coaches on deck and they are not being used in the best way. They could easily have different groups doing different things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The cost isn’t the issue. The issue is the mindset “I must be atop the ladder, so I’ll gain any advantage by wearing a tech suit, when every other kid wears a training suit.” Great frickin teammate.

tech suits may take off a second or two but they aren't going to make a slow kid faster.

For 12U, very rare for a tech suit to make a difference (and no difference for 10U)...why? tech suit is about compression. So unless the kid has some above-average physical maturity, a tech suit isn't going to do anything. Now if the parent is encouraging a kid to wear tech suit for mindset purposes then that's probably not a whole lot different from parents trying to incentivize their kids to swim faster by buying them treats or gifts.

[Anonymous]

My kid has a 12u tech suit that honestly wasn't much more expensive than a regular pair of jammers. And he's 10 so he's going to outgrow it in a hot second - why shouldn't he wear it at meets and get use out of it? I doubt it gives him much of an advantage, if any, other than psychological.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tech suit sighting on a 10 year old at our B meet last night…🙄🙄🙄

Take a deep breath. Are you sure it wasn't a hand-me down? We give suits away (tech and non-tech) after kids grow out of them. Some families are happy to take them as-is.

It was most definitely not a hand me down. It was a “I will do anything to keep my kid at the top of the ladder.” It is just another example of the over the top craziness of some parents who don’t get the concept that summer swim is for fun. This little child was the only one wearing one and looked silly. And many people were commenting about it.

Many people commenting on it is much more of a red flag for crazy to me than a kid wearing a tech suit on a Monday night.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many summer teams have "special lanes" for club swimmers. I feel like our club is about to have a parent mutiny.

The irony of not recognizing that you are the one being crazy here. Of course lanes have to be separated by speed.

No, the rule isn't by speed they had to explicitly state "club", because many of the club swimmers aren't that fast.

The club swimmers are used to doing the laps and keep a better form with it.

So they should be able to swim with more swimmers in the lanes then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid has a 12u tech suit that honestly wasn't much more expensive than a regular pair of jammers. And he's 10 so he's going to outgrow it in a hot second - why shouldn't he wear it at meets and get use out of it? I doubt it gives him much of an advantage, if any, other than psychological.

Go for it. If this hasn't happened yet, then great, but do realize that even at the 12U age, kids will make fun of other kids who for no apparent reason (e.g., making champs cuts, prelims/finals, divisionals, etc.) are suiting up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many summer teams have "special lanes" for club swimmers. I feel like our club is about to have a parent mutiny.

We don't but it would be nice.

Agree with this. Or just some separation based on experience. My youngest is 8 and there's a huge range at this age. Some are consistently legal in all four strokes, while some are still dog paddling to get down the length of the pool. But they are all working on the same thing at the same time. They could easily have the 1-2 lanes with the more experienced kids work on refining their strokes and building a little stamina and putting together a 100 IM. They're trying to teach the group breaststroke kick right now, one lap at a time with very long breaks in between while they wait for everyone to finish. The kids who already know how to do it are bored and acting up while they wait for everyone. Save for the very naturally talented kids, the ones who just started swimming do not yet have the body awareness to get the hang of the kick/timing. They need a few more weeks of swimming every day to even get close to resembling the stroke. We have so many teen helper coaches on deck and they are not being used in the best way. They could easily have different groups doing different things.

Our practices are like this too. Seems like it would be better for all -- coaches, kids who need more help, kids who are legal in all strokes -- to split them up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many summer teams have "special lanes" for club swimmers. I feel like our club is about to have a parent mutiny.

The irony of not recognizing that you are the one being crazy here. Of course lanes have to be separated by speed.

No, the rule isn't by speed they had to explicitly state "club", because many of the club swimmers aren't that fast.

The club swimmers are used to doing the laps and keep a better form with it.

So they should be able to swim with more swimmers in the lanes then.

So they can run over the other kids? Club kids can swim with a lot of other kids in the lane, many of them do it all the time, but jamming a lot of kids in a lane with a mix of speed/ability is just stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many summer teams have "special lanes" for club swimmers. I feel like our club is about to have a parent mutiny.

We don't but it would be nice.

Agree with this. Or just some separation based on experience. My youngest is 8 and there's a huge range at this age. Some are consistently legal in all four strokes, while some are still dog paddling to get down the length of the pool. But they are all working on the same thing at the same time. They could easily have the 1-2 lanes with the more experienced kids work on refining their strokes and building a little stamina and putting together a 100 IM. They're trying to teach the group breaststroke kick right now, one lap at a time with very long breaks in between while they wait for everyone to finish. The kids who already know how to do it are bored and acting up while they wait for everyone. Save for the very naturally talented kids, the ones who just started swimming do not yet have the body awareness to get the hang of the kick/timing. They need a few more weeks of swimming every day to even get close to resembling the stroke. We have so many teen helper coaches on deck and they are not being used in the best way. They could easily have different groups doing different things.

Talk to your head coach! Ours is separated with fast lanes and lanes for kids who need more guidance. A lot of attention paid to the little kids too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many summer teams have "special lanes" for club swimmers. I feel like our club is about to have a parent mutiny.

The irony of not recognizing that you are the one being crazy here. Of course lanes have to be separated by speed.

No, the rule isn't by speed they had to explicitly state "club", because many of the club swimmers aren't that fast.

The club swimmers are used to doing the laps and keep a better form with it.

So they should be able to swim with more swimmers in the lanes then.

So they can run over the other kids? Club kids can swim with a lot of other kids in the lane, many of them do it all the time, but jamming a lot of kids in a lane with a mix of speed/ability is just stupid.

Even in club they divide the kids by speed.