How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are not the problem, it's usually AA kids that are the worst performing so not sure why people here are so quick to hate immigrant kids but too scared to mention other demographic cause they'll be called racist. Very cowardly.


That is not true. Hispanic kids score worse than AA kids in MCPS in literacy and math. Why are you making things up?


Not making things up, this goes for nationwide not only MCPS. Obviously, Hispanics might score worse but that's because their new to the language, but I also have not seen evidence for that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are not the problem, it's usually AA kids that are the worst performing so not sure why people here are so quick to hate immigrant kids but too scared to mention other demographic cause they'll be called racist. Very cowardly.


That is not true. Hispanic kids score worse than AA kids in MCPS in literacy and math. Why are you making things up?


Not making things up, this goes for nationwide not only MCPS. Obviously, Hispanics might score worse but that's because their new to the language, but I also have not seen evidence for that.


PP, the immigrant hate comes from the fact that most immigrants are hardworking and want to succeed and might outpace American born kids so their very threatening to a lot of people but these same people want to keep AA as a lower class to have no competition.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are not the problem, it's usually AA kids that are the worst performing so not sure why people here are so quick to hate immigrant kids but too scared to mention other demographic cause they'll be called racist. Very cowardly.


That is not true. Hispanic kids score worse than AA kids in MCPS in literacy and math. Why are you making things up?


Not making things up, this goes for nationwide not only MCPS. Obviously, Hispanics might score worse but that's because their new to the language, but I also have not seen evidence for that.


This thread is about MCPS's lowest performing students, so why would you draw on nationwide data to make your claim?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are not the problem, it's usually AA kids that are the worst performing so not sure why people here are so quick to hate immigrant kids but too scared to mention other demographic cause they'll be called racist. Very cowardly.


That is not true. Hispanic kids score worse than AA kids in MCPS in literacy and math. Why are you making things up?


Not making things up, this goes for nationwide not only MCPS. Obviously, Hispanics might score worse but that's because their new to the language, but I also have not seen evidence for that.


They're *

It looks like you might be new to the language, too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need more able bodied paras or co-teachers


Mcps doesn't take paraeducation seriously, in the least. If they did, they wouldn't allow for it to be the stepping stone to coaching jobs. How many coaches are there who are only paraeducators because mcps demands they be a teacher in order to coach? None of them care about helping students learn. They need to weed them out and take paraeducation seriously.


Before they can weed them out, it would probably help to start offering all paras benefits and a living wage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are not the problem, it's usually AA kids that are the worst performing so not sure why people here are so quick to hate immigrant kids but too scared to mention other demographic cause they'll be called racist. Very cowardly.


That is not true. Hispanic kids score worse than AA kids in MCPS in literacy and math. Why are you making things up?


Not making things up, this goes for nationwide not only MCPS. Obviously, Hispanics might score worse but that's because their new to the language, but I also have not seen evidence for that.


They're *

It looks like you might be new to the language, too.


So you guys would prefer slang then English language learners?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are not the problem, it's usually AA kids that are the worst performing so not sure why people here are so quick to hate immigrant kids but too scared to mention other demographic cause they'll be called racist. Very cowardly.


That is not true. Hispanic kids score worse than AA kids in MCPS in literacy and math. Why are you making things up?


Not making things up, this goes for nationwide not only MCPS. Obviously, Hispanics might score worse but that's because their new to the language, but I also have not seen evidence for that.


They actually don't score worse or are the lowest performing. They just score lower on English tests but tests in Spanish are average/on level.
Anonymous
Free universal childcare/pre-k from age 3. Many of these kids have never seen a book until K. Stay up late so their parents can spend time with them after multiple shift jobs, have no exposure to English at home etc etc. it's really hard to fix poverty and lack of resources and time for the parents. Mandatory (stipend paid) English classes for parents would go a long way as well.
At the ES level, much smaller classes, free summer school, more recess oddly, kids need to move their bodies to them be able to learn. If everyone did 15 min of calisthenics and running before class in the am, it would help focus. And yes food, less sugar and more protein for breakfast.
Anonymous
Pp here. All the above is extraordinarily expensive.
Anonymous
Truly reimagining education. Make the ES school day 8 hrs which would allow more time for eating healthy, recess, tutoring, meetings, etc. And better align with parents schedules. Also Add paraeducators, teachers in training, assistants teachers whoever to help support classes over 18 kids.

MS/HS be 7.5hours with 8periods at 50mins, 5-6mins in between classes. Block schedules can be plan within the same hours. Reduce teaching load to 4 classes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Truly reimagining education. Make the ES school day 8 hrs which would allow more time for eating healthy, recess, tutoring, meetings, etc. And better align with parents schedules. Also Add paraeducators, teachers in training, assistants teachers whoever to help support classes over 18 kids.

MS/HS be 7.5hours with 8periods at 50mins, 5-6mins in between classes. Block schedules can be plan within the same hours. Reduce teaching load to 4 classes.



You would need a lot more staff for this. People are leaving education left and right. Where would all of the money come from for this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are not the problem, it's usually AA kids that are the worst performing so not sure why people here are so quick to hate immigrant kids but too scared to mention other demographic cause they'll be called racist. Very cowardly.


That is not true. Hispanic kids score worse than AA kids in MCPS in literacy and math. Why are you making things up?


Not making things up, this goes for nationwide not only MCPS. Obviously, Hispanics might score worse but that's because their new to the language, but I also have not seen evidence for that.


PP, the immigrant hate comes from the fact that most immigrants are hardworking and want to succeed and might outpace American born kids so their very threatening to a lot of people but these same people want to keep AA as a lower class to have no competition.


Sure, that's it, exactly
Anonymous
Students new to the country are placed in a classroom based on their age, and not their prior education. We used to have schools/classes for students new to the country to start learning English and get an educational plan in place prior to being placed in a general education classroom.

ELD is very rarely pulled out at this point and is definitely not enough to fill the gaps even if they have a 3x a week 30 minute newcomer class. That's a tiny amount of time to help kids adjust.

I am a 5th-grade teacher and in the past few years have started to get ridiculous placements in my classrooms. For example, imagine a student who has zero English, zero prior schooling, and does not know how to count to 5 even in his native language just being dropped in a 5th grade classroom and the teacher told to "catch him up." Or a student whose parent is illiterate and the child has already missed 2+ years of schooling while getting to the country and then just told to start reading and learning in English when the last time they were in school was in 1st grade in a different country where they were never learned even pre-reading skills such as how to hold a book.

Whenever I get these children, I feel so bad for them. But then I also realize how students like these are being dropped into high schools and teachers there are also told to just make it work. It's not possible.

Language is not normally the largest barrier- the lack of prior education is.

I think we need to go back to the old system of having students who are not prepared for the grade level in separate classes or schools to first get them ready for education before releasing them. It would benefit the children AND benefit society.
Anonymous
Will there be fewer students in the school system this upcoming year? What is the plan this year or for the next 3-5 years to help the lowest performing students?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Serious answers only. How can schools raise performances of students at the lowest levels? Free meals help nourish brains and bodies, are they "healthy" is questionable. What else? It it sending home books (lots of books) for them to read? More math practice practice practice. Is it helping change their attitude towards learning, less screen time? Is it identifying learning disorders in Pre-K (if eligible) or by K? Parents/guardians of these students need assistance too but there is time and language and cultural barriers- getting them information about identifying learning issues, ELL services, attitude/views about learning?


No one can help them unless they have desire to do better. If they do, MCPS has more than enough resources available.
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