Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[Anonymous]

The only relevant norm is other fcps high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i have known two different principals who hung banners over top of them. LOL.

Yes sometimes principals or office staff cover up the state required In God We Trust posters. But by law they must be on display in some form or fashion.

Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) recognizes 11 no-work days to accommodate religious holidays that fall outside of federal holidays. Additionally, several federal agencies, including the military, employ chaplains. So, what is the issue with allowing a volunteer chaplain to support a football team? Could you provide the rationale behind this opposition?

The Black community often represents the more conservative wing of the Democratic Party. It's possible that those raising concerns are aligned with more liberal religious groups, such as the Unitarian Universalists (UUs). I'm trying to understand why Hayfield High School's football team is facing criticism over the chaplain issue. Is it rooted in a broader effort to reduce the involvement of the Black Church and the influence it has on predominantly Black communities, while a more liberal, predominantly white group—such as the one currently leading the local Fairfax NAACP—drives the narrative?

If clubs like the Satanic Temple are permitted to have a presence in high school clubs, why would a chaplain be restricted from participating in football team activities? Especially when the chaplain is not promoting an ecumenical approach, as UUs do to practice and spread their faith.

Many public high schools all across the country still have pre-graduation Baccalaureate services at local churches or other houses of worship with a minister or chaplain.

Regarding football, literally anyone can stand on the sidelines if coach allows it. Many alumni, news people, random teachers and mentors, photographers, videographers, pastors, and advisors of all sorts do. Not just the coaching staff and players. The DMV just happens to be a bit less religious than many areas in the country and in other regions of the southeast. So a pastor on the sidelines like at Hayfield may seem unusual.

That's not a thing here, in FCPS. At all. We keep proselytizing out of our public schools.

Certainly used to be a thing. It wasn't officially sponsored by the school, but it was publicized like any club thing might have been. Do they really not still do that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i have known two different principals who hung banners over top of them. LOL.

Yes sometimes principals or office staff cover up the state required In God We Trust posters. But by law they must be on display in some form or fashion.

Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) recognizes 11 no-work days to accommodate religious holidays that fall outside of federal holidays. Additionally, several federal agencies, including the military, employ chaplains. So, what is the issue with allowing a volunteer chaplain to support a football team? Could you provide the rationale behind this opposition?

The Black community often represents the more conservative wing of the Democratic Party. It's possible that those raising concerns are aligned with more liberal religious groups, such as the Unitarian Universalists (UUs). I'm trying to understand why Hayfield High School's football team is facing criticism over the chaplain issue. Is it rooted in a broader effort to reduce the involvement of the Black Church and the influence it has on predominantly Black communities, while a more liberal, predominantly white group—such as the one currently leading the local Fairfax NAACP—drives the narrative?

If clubs like the Satanic Temple are permitted to have a presence in high school clubs, why would a chaplain be restricted from participating in football team activities? Especially when the chaplain is not promoting an ecumenical approach, as UUs do to practice and spread their faith.

Why is everything about race to the Overton fanboys?

Especially considering that the real players who got displaced by the Potomac Mills scammers were likely Black as well.

[Anonymous]

The Whistleblower is a Black mom

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i have known two different principals who hung banners over top of them. LOL.

Yes sometimes principals or office staff cover up the state required In God We Trust posters. But by law they must be on display in some form or fashion.

Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) recognizes 11 no-work days to accommodate religious holidays that fall outside of federal holidays. Additionally, several federal agencies, including the military, employ chaplains. So, what is the issue with allowing a volunteer chaplain to support a football team? Could you provide the rationale behind this opposition?

The Black community often represents the more conservative wing of the Democratic Party. It's possible that those raising concerns are aligned with more liberal religious groups, such as the Unitarian Universalists (UUs). I'm trying to understand why Hayfield High School's football team is facing criticism over the chaplain issue. Is it rooted in a broader effort to reduce the involvement of the Black Church and the influence it has on predominantly Black communities, while a more liberal, predominantly white group—such as the one currently leading the local Fairfax NAACP—drives the narrative?

If clubs like the Satanic Temple are permitted to have a presence in high school clubs, why would a chaplain be restricted from participating in football team activities? Especially when the chaplain is not promoting an ecumenical approach, as UUs do to practice and spread their faith.

Many public high schools all across the country still have pre-graduation Baccalaureate services at local churches or other houses of worship with a minister or chaplain.

Regarding football, literally anyone can stand on the sidelines if coach allows it. Many alumni, news people, random teachers and mentors, photographers, videographers, pastors, and advisors of all sorts do. Not just the coaching staff and players. The DMV just happens to be a bit less religious than many areas in the country and in other regions of the southeast. So a pastor on the sidelines like at Hayfield may seem unusual.

That's not a thing here, in FCPS. At all. We keep proselytizing out of our public schools.

Certainly used to be a thing. It wasn't officially sponsored by the school, but it was publicized like any club thing might have been. Do they really not still do that?

Nope, never heard of such a thing and have had kids in FCPS since 2006

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Whistleblower is a Black mom

Yes. It’s the team mom controversy that started the whole thing. Otherwise there would have been no investigation.

It’s too bad the rival team moms couldn’t work out their differences. Are the other FCPS team moms elected by the football parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i have known two different principals who hung banners over top of them. LOL.

Yes sometimes principals or office staff cover up the state required In God We Trust posters. But by law they must be on display in some form or fashion.

Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) recognizes 11 no-work days to accommodate religious holidays that fall outside of federal holidays. Additionally, several federal agencies, including the military, employ chaplains. So, what is the issue with allowing a volunteer chaplain to support a football team? Could you provide the rationale behind this opposition?

The Black community often represents the more conservative wing of the Democratic Party. It's possible that those raising concerns are aligned with more liberal religious groups, such as the Unitarian Universalists (UUs). I'm trying to understand why Hayfield High School's football team is facing criticism over the chaplain issue. Is it rooted in a broader effort to reduce the involvement of the Black Church and the influence it has on predominantly Black communities, while a more liberal, predominantly white group—such as the one currently leading the local Fairfax NAACP—drives the narrative?

If clubs like the Satanic Temple are permitted to have a presence in high school clubs, why would a chaplain be restricted from participating in football team activities? Especially when the chaplain is not promoting an ecumenical approach, as UUs do to practice and spread their faith.

Many public high schools all across the country still have pre-graduation Baccalaureate services at local churches or other houses of worship with a minister or chaplain.

Regarding football, literally anyone can stand on the sidelines if coach allows it. Many alumni, news people, random teachers and mentors, photographers, videographers, pastors, and advisors of all sorts do. Not just the coaching staff and players. The DMV just happens to be a bit less religious than many areas in the country and in other regions of the southeast. So a pastor on the sidelines like at Hayfield may seem unusual.

That's not a thing here, in FCPS. At all. We keep proselytizing out of our public schools.

Certainly used to be a thing. It wasn't officially sponsored by the school, but it was publicized like any club thing might have been. Do they really not still do that?

Nope, never heard of such a thing and have had kids in FCPS since 2006

Many parents of current students, not yet in high school or just entering high school, went to FCPS high schools or those in nearby districts in the 80s or 90s / early 00s and the baccalaureate services were a thing well through the 90s and beyond. The courts ruled they could still take place. Maybe some schools opt out today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i have known two different principals who hung banners over top of them. LOL.

Yes sometimes principals or office staff cover up the state required In God We Trust posters. But by law they must be on display in some form or fashion.

Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) recognizes 11 no-work days to accommodate religious holidays that fall outside of federal holidays. Additionally, several federal agencies, including the military, employ chaplains. So, what is the issue with allowing a volunteer chaplain to support a football team? Could you provide the rationale behind this opposition?

The Black community often represents the more conservative wing of the Democratic Party. It's possible that those raising concerns are aligned with more liberal religious groups, such as the Unitarian Universalists (UUs). I'm trying to understand why Hayfield High School's football team is facing criticism over the chaplain issue. Is it rooted in a broader effort to reduce the involvement of the Black Church and the influence it has on predominantly Black communities, while a more liberal, predominantly white group—such as the one currently leading the local Fairfax NAACP—drives the narrative?

If clubs like the Satanic Temple are permitted to have a presence in high school clubs, why would a chaplain be restricted from participating in football team activities? Especially when the chaplain is not promoting an ecumenical approach, as UUs do to practice and spread their faith.

Many public high schools all across the country still have pre-graduation Baccalaureate services at local churches or other houses of worship with a minister or chaplain.

Regarding football, literally anyone can stand on the sidelines if coach allows it. Many alumni, news people, random teachers and mentors, photographers, videographers, pastors, and advisors of all sorts do. Not just the coaching staff and players. The DMV just happens to be a bit less religious than many areas in the country and in other regions of the southeast. So a pastor on the sidelines like at Hayfield may seem unusual.

That's not a thing here, in FCPS. At all. We keep proselytizing out of our public schools.

Certainly used to be a thing. It wasn't officially sponsored by the school, but it was publicized like any club thing might have been. Do they really not still do that?

Nope, never heard of such a thing and have had kids in FCPS since 2006

Many parents of current students, not yet in high school or just entering high school, went to FCPS high schools or those in nearby districts in the 80s or 90s / early 00s and the baccalaureate services were a thing well through the 90s and beyond. The courts ruled they could still take place. Maybe some schools opt out today.

No school does this now in FCPS. Nor have they for quite some time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Whistleblower is a Black mom

Yes. It’s the team mom controversy that started the whole thing. Otherwise there would have been no investigation.

It’s too bad the rival team moms couldn’t work out their differences. Are the other FCPS team moms elected by the football parents?

They weren't really rivals. That's an odd term to use. One was a Hayfield mom who had volunteered with the Hayfield team the previous year, whose son played on the team (a normal Team Mom situation). She was abruptly fired from her volunteer gig and replaced.

The other was part of Overton's gang, came from Freedom HS in PW, he got her a job at Hayfield, and was the person who ran his sketchy third party fundraising (money that seems to have disappeared).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Whistleblower is a Black mom

Yes. It’s the team mom controversy that started the whole thing. Otherwise there would have been no investigation.

It’s too bad the rival team moms couldn’t work out their differences. Are the other FCPS team moms elected by the football parents?

You don't think anyone would have started asking questions once Hayfield put their Potomac Mills and Friends All Star Roster out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i have known two different principals who hung banners over top of them. LOL.

Yes sometimes principals or office staff cover up the state required In God We Trust posters. But by law they must be on display in some form or fashion.

Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) recognizes 11 no-work days to accommodate religious holidays that fall outside of federal holidays. Additionally, several federal agencies, including the military, employ chaplains. So, what is the issue with allowing a volunteer chaplain to support a football team? Could you provide the rationale behind this opposition?

The Black community often represents the more conservative wing of the Democratic Party. It's possible that those raising concerns are aligned with more liberal religious groups, such as the Unitarian Universalists (UUs). I'm trying to understand why Hayfield High School's football team is facing criticism over the chaplain issue. Is it rooted in a broader effort to reduce the involvement of the Black Church and the influence it has on predominantly Black communities, while a more liberal, predominantly white group—such as the one currently leading the local Fairfax NAACP—drives the narrative?

If clubs like the Satanic Temple are permitted to have a presence in high school clubs, why would a chaplain be restricted from participating in football team activities? Especially when the chaplain is not promoting an ecumenical approach, as UUs do to practice and spread their faith.

Many public high schools all across the country still have pre-graduation Baccalaureate services at local churches or other houses of worship with a minister or chaplain.

Regarding football, literally anyone can stand on the sidelines if coach allows it. Many alumni, news people, random teachers and mentors, photographers, videographers, pastors, and advisors of all sorts do. Not just the coaching staff and players. The DMV just happens to be a bit less religious than many areas in the country and in other regions of the southeast. So a pastor on the sidelines like at Hayfield may seem unusual.

That's not a thing here, in FCPS. At all. We keep proselytizing out of our public schools.

Certainly used to be a thing. It wasn't officially sponsored by the school, but it was publicized like any club thing might have been. Do they really not still do that?

Nope, never heard of such a thing and have had kids in FCPS since 2006

Many parents of current students, not yet in high school or just entering high school, went to FCPS high schools or those in nearby districts in the 80s or 90s / early 00s and the baccalaureate services were a thing well through the 90s and beyond. The courts ruled they could still take place. Maybe some schools opt out today.

PP here. I remember it from 2002. Must have stopped shortly after. I skipped mine so I have no idea what it was like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Whistleblower is a Black mom

Yes. It’s the team mom controversy that started the whole thing. Otherwise there would have been no investigation.

It’s too bad the rival team moms couldn’t work out their differences. Are the other FCPS team moms elected by the football parents?

You don't think anyone would have started asking questions once Hayfield put their Potomac Mills and Friends All Star Roster out?

Have to believe just the hiring of a coach who is not former police to be security head and who then didn’t complete the compliance courses in the 60 days required would have set off some questions. Or when the email went out asking for $200 by CashApp. Or when … but for me the real question is whether will ever really matter. When interviewed, the coach himself says he was investigated 17 times when at Freedom. Doubt any of this “noise” even registers with coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i have known two different principals who hung banners over top of them. LOL.

Yes sometimes principals or office staff cover up the state required In God We Trust posters. But by law they must be on display in some form or fashion.

Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) recognizes 11 no-work days to accommodate religious holidays that fall outside of federal holidays. Additionally, several federal agencies, including the military, employ chaplains. So, what is the issue with allowing a volunteer chaplain to support a football team? Could you provide the rationale behind this opposition?

The Black community often represents the more conservative wing of the Democratic Party. It's possible that those raising concerns are aligned with more liberal religious groups, such as the Unitarian Universalists (UUs). I'm trying to understand why Hayfield High School's football team is facing criticism over the chaplain issue. Is it rooted in a broader effort to reduce the involvement of the Black Church and the influence it has on predominantly Black communities, while a more liberal, predominantly white group—such as the one currently leading the local Fairfax NAACP—drives the narrative?

If clubs like the Satanic Temple are permitted to have a presence in high school clubs, why would a chaplain be restricted from participating in football team activities? Especially when the chaplain is not promoting an ecumenical approach, as UUs do to practice and spread their faith.

Many public high schools all across the country still have pre-graduation Baccalaureate services at local churches or other houses of worship with a minister or chaplain.

Regarding football, literally anyone can stand on the sidelines if coach allows it. Many alumni, news people, random teachers and mentors, photographers, videographers, pastors, and advisors of all sorts do. Not just the coaching staff and players. The DMV just happens to be a bit less religious than many areas in the country and in other regions of the southeast. So a pastor on the sidelines like at Hayfield may seem unusual.

That's not a thing here, in FCPS. At all. We keep proselytizing out of our public schools.

Certainly used to be a thing. It wasn't officially sponsored by the school, but it was publicized like any club thing might have been. Do they really not still do that?

Nope, never heard of such a thing and have had kids in FCPS since 2006

Many parents of current students, not yet in high school or just entering high school, went to FCPS high schools or those in nearby districts in the 80s or 90s / early 00s and the baccalaureate services were a thing well through the 90s and beyond. The courts ruled they could still take place. Maybe some schools opt out today.

PP here. I remember it from 2002. Must have stopped shortly after. I skipped mine so I have no idea what it was like.

I have bad news for you. That was 22 years ago!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Whistleblower is a Black mom

Yes. It’s the team mom controversy that started the whole thing. Otherwise there would have been no investigation.

It’s too bad the rival team moms couldn’t work out their differences. Are the other FCPS team moms elected by the football parents?

You don't think anyone would have started asking questions once Hayfield put their Potomac Mills and Friends All Star Roster out?

Have to believe just the hiring of a coach who is not former police to be security head and who then didn’t complete the compliance courses in the 60 days required would have set off some questions. Or when the email went out asking for $200 by CashApp. Or when … but for me the real question is whether will ever really matter. When interviewed, the coach himself says he was investigated 17 times when at Freedom. Doubt any of this “noise” even registers with coach.

Well he was fired from Freedom so maybe the 17th one was the kicker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Whistleblower is a Black mom

Yes. It’s the team mom controversy that started the whole thing. Otherwise there would have been no investigation.

It’s too bad the rival team moms couldn’t work out their differences. Are the other FCPS team moms elected by the football parents?

You don't think anyone would have started asking questions once Hayfield put their Potomac Mills and Friends All Star Roster out?

Have to believe just the hiring of a coach who is not former police to be security head and who then didn’t complete the compliance courses in the 60 days required would have set off some questions. Or when the email went out asking for $200 by CashApp. Or when … but for me the real question is whether will ever really matter. When interviewed, the coach himself says he was investigated 17 times when at Freedom. Doubt any of this “noise” even registers with coach.

Well he was fired from Freedom so maybe the 17th one was the kicker.

So by that thought, 1 down for Hayfield, 16 investigations to go? Believe was 9 years at last job and went from $20-30 something thousand paid there to now $70k+ at FCPS. Guessing he’ll keep doing okay.