NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read the entire speech. What I found so ironic is how often he mentions “staying in one’s lane,” yet he judges SOO many people (including other Catholics and Catholic leaders).

Also, let’s be real: he’s a professional athlete. He can have as many kids as he wants and he can afford to have his wife stay home to be the homemaker. This just isn’t realistic for many people, including Catholics. Does that make us bad Catholics? According to him, yes.

He’s entitled to his opinion, obviously, but he is a religious zealot (if we’re calling a spade a spade), which goes beyond conservatism. It’s radicalism.

He's a misogyny zealot. Jesus did not care about gender roles.

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Anonymous wrote:I get some people are all about the woman staying demure and a man leading the family. Some women enjoy being housewife and that is good for them. No prob with any of this kind of thinking.

BUT what he said totally demeans women. He said his wife’s life did not start or meant nothing until she started being a wife and mother. As a woman I take great offense with this statement. I take great offense at the way he expressed what he feels women should be. It’s one thing to suggest someone can live one way, it’s another to suggest there is only one way to live that’s right.

I think he is such a blatantly offensive man whose mom has to be losing her mind!!

WTf? In 20 min he managed to offend most people. It’s not about his views, it’s about how he expressed them.

You are putting words in his mouth. He never said his wife's life "meant nothing." He said that SHE would be the first to tell you that her life truly started when she started "living her vocation as a wife and mother." For most women who have children - this is true, whether they admit it or not.
I remember the old adage that nobody on their death bed wishes they had spent more time at the office. The important thing is relationships - family and friends. Raising children IS the most important job in the world.
I worked outside the home when my children were young. I won many awards. But, today - those awards mean nothing. What is important is that my children are grown, productive people in the world who have strong relationships with THEIR spouses and are raising happy, well adjusted children. This doesn't happen by accident. It is a result of having parents who spend time with them when they are young and serve as good role models.
And, he never demeaned women who choose to work outside the home. Instead, he relishes the idea that his wife love and is good at the role of homemaker. And, that she makes him a better father and husband by keeping him focused on what is important - family.

Are you saying the same thing about men, that they first start to live when they become husbands and fathers? Why isn’t homemaking their greatest goal? Surely it should be something men can and should aspire to.

And what do you say to those who choose the celibate religious life? Are they not living?

Did you hear what he said.....

"I have leaned into my vocation as a husband and father and as a man."

"To the gentlemen here today - part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities."

He credits his wife with making sure that he puts family first ahead of his career.

Contrary to the many posts on this board - there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with traditional gender roles, with a focus on family and children, and women serving as homemakers as their primary vocation.

+100
And even women who work outside the home - pretty sure most would say that raising their children is their highest vocation and thing they're most proud of, regardless of their career. Frankly, if a parent *didn't* feel that way, that's pretty sad.

Did he say that he didn't really get a vocation until he became a husband and father?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’ve had 50+ years of feminism discouraging girls from being wives and mothers. I think the younger generation is questioning that, and the pendulum is finally starting to swing back in the other direction a bit.

I agree. I'm all for women choosing what they want to do, be it a SAHM or a career - but I do think younger women are realizing that there are different seasons to life and planning accordingly.

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve had 50+ years of feminism discouraging girls from being wives and mothers. I think the younger generation is questioning that, and the pendulum is finally starting to swing back in the other direction a bit.

I agree. I'm all for women choosing what they want to do, be it a SAHM or a career - but I do think younger women are realizing that there are different seasons to life and planning accordingly.

I agree too. Being a mother is truly the most important job in the world.

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Once again, Bill Maher shines a bright light to expose the utter lunacy of the left.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve had 50+ years of feminism discouraging girls from being wives and mothers. I think the younger generation is questioning that, and the pendulum is finally starting to swing back in the other direction a bit.

I agree. I'm all for women choosing what they want to do, be it a SAHM or a career - but I do think younger women are realizing that there are different seasons to life and planning accordingly.

This. We don’t object when women are told to put their children in daycare. But when someone suggests there’s value in taking care of your own children, he’s public enemy number one.

There’s a lot of years between college graduation and retirement. I don’t see what’s wrong with prioritizing one’s own children, especially when they are young.

Meanwhile, we’ve got daycare workers being arrested for drugging the children under their care. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/4-daycare-workers-arrested-lacing-childrens-food-melatonin/story?id=110329834

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve had 50+ years of feminism discouraging girls from being wives and mothers. I think the younger generation is questioning that, and the pendulum is finally starting to swing back in the other direction a bit.

I agree. I'm all for women choosing what they want to do, be it a SAHM or a career - but I do think younger women are realizing that there are different seasons to life and planning accordingly.

This. We don’t object when women are told to put their children in daycare. But when someone suggests there’s value in taking care of your own children, he’s public enemy number one.

There’s a lot of years between college graduation and retirement. I don’t see what’s wrong with prioritizing one’s own children, especially when they are young.

Meanwhile, we’ve got daycare workers being arrested for drugging the children under their care. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/4-daycare-workers-arrested-lacing-childrens-food-melatonin/story?id=110329834

+1
Not to mention, NFL "stars" who are domestic abusers but are still lauded for their football prowess. At least this guy is a decent family man - but the left can't stand men OR women who choose to put their family first.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve had 50+ years of feminism discouraging girls from being wives and mothers. I think the younger generation is questioning that, and the pendulum is finally starting to swing back in the other direction a bit.

I agree. I'm all for women choosing what they want to do, be it a SAHM or a career - but I do think younger women are realizing that there are different seasons to life and planning accordingly.

+1 and that you can't have it all.

[Anonymous]

My problem with these lectures from conservative men is that they are totally clueless and uninformed. These lectures are mostly coming from men who are multi millionaires and their wives if they choose to stay home, never have to worry about financial stress.

Let’s argue for a hot minute that majority women do want to stay home for 7-8 years when their children are young. Okay, now what? How do we make this possible as a society? Have they looked at mortgage rates and prices at the grocery stores or college tuition prices?

Not a single time I have heard a solution from these men that let’s make sure women can stay home and for that to happen we propose such and such policies. To go on a podium as a multi millionaire and talk about family structure of the 50s when everything was affordable one income is dumb at best and incredibly tone deaf at worst.

Honestly, I would respect their “faith” and “opinion” s lot more if they backed their beliefs with solutions and supportive ideas. This performative nonsense can be done by a middle schooler.

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve had 50+ years of feminism discouraging girls from being wives and mothers. I think the younger generation is questioning that, and the pendulum is finally starting to swing back in the other direction a bit.

I agree. I'm all for women choosing what they want to do, be it a SAHM or a career - but I do think younger women are realizing that there are different seasons to life and planning accordingly.

This. We don’t object when women are told to put their children in daycare. But when someone suggests there’s value in taking care of your own children, he’s public enemy number one.

There’s a lot of years between college graduation and retirement. I don’t see what’s wrong with prioritizing one’s own children, especially when they are young.

Meanwhile, we’ve got daycare workers being arrested for drugging the children under their care. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/4-daycare-workers-arrested-lacing-childrens-food-melatonin/story?id=110329834

+1
Not to mention, NFL "stars" who are domestic abusers but are still lauded for their football prowess. At least this guy is a decent family man - but the left can't stand men OR women who choose to put their family first.

He can do what he wants if he’s not hurting anyone. The problem is he’s dictating how everyone else should make decisions, FOX is amplifying this message, and it fits neatly into project 2025. I don’t want the government in my private life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve had 50+ years of feminism discouraging girls from being wives and mothers. I think the younger generation is questioning that, and the pendulum is finally starting to swing back in the other direction a bit.

I agree. I'm all for women choosing what they want to do, be it a SAHM or a career - but I do think younger women are realizing that there are different seasons to life and planning accordingly.

This. We don’t object when women are told to put their children in daycare. But when someone suggests there’s value in taking care of your own children, he’s public enemy number one.

There’s a lot of years between college graduation and retirement. I don’t see what’s wrong with prioritizing one’s own children, especially when they are young.

Meanwhile, we’ve got daycare workers being arrested for drugging the children under their care. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/4-daycare-workers-arrested-lacing-childrens-food-melatonin/story?id=110329834

+1
Not to mention, NFL "stars" who are domestic abusers but are still lauded for their football prowess. At least this guy is a decent family man - but the left can't stand men OR women who choose to put their family first.

He can do what he wants if he’s not hurting anyone. The problem is he’s dictating how everyone else should make decisions, FOX is amplifying this message, and it fits neatly into project 2025. I don’t want the government in my private life.

You had to insert "Fox" and "Project 2025," even though neither are the subject of this thread. It's truly amazing the obsession some of you have.

Also - he's not dictating anything. He was simply giving his opinion. Feel free to disagree, but to claim he's somehow "making" women do this or that is just insane.

[Anonymous]

I don’t need a man telling me what I should want to do — I’m perfectly capable of deciding that on my own. It came across as very out of touch. I am a mother of three — and a senior manager in my job. If people like Butker were truly interested in “families,” they would support working mothers in the same way they claim to support non-working mothers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’ve had 50+ years of feminism discouraging girls from being wives and mothers. I think the younger generation is questioning that, and the pendulum is finally starting to swing back in the other direction a bit.

I agree. I'm all for women choosing what they want to do, be it a SAHM or a career - but I do think younger women are realizing that there are different seasons to life and planning accordingly.

This. We don’t object when women are told to put their children in daycare. But when someone suggests there’s value in taking care of your own children, he’s public enemy number one.

There’s a lot of years between college graduation and retirement. I don’t see what’s wrong with prioritizing one’s own children, especially when they are young.

Meanwhile, we’ve got daycare workers being arrested for drugging the children under their care. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/4-daycare-workers-arrested-lacing-childrens-food-melatonin/story?id=110329834

+1
Not to mention, NFL "stars" who are domestic abusers but are still lauded for their football prowess. At least this guy is a decent family man - but the left can't stand men OR women who choose to put their family first.

He can do what he wants if he’s not hurting anyone. The problem is he’s dictating how everyone else should make decisions, FOX is amplifying this message, and it fits neatly into project 2025. I don’t want the government in my private life.

Agreed. The far right is just wetting its pants because they think they’re going to get everything they want, including to shut women out of the public sphere (except poor women, of course. They always have to work!).

Vote blue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t need a man telling me what I should want to do — I’m perfectly capable of deciding that on my own. It came across as very out of touch. I am a mother of three — and a senior manager in my job. If people like Butker were truly interested in “families,” they would support working mothers in the same way they claim to support non-working mothers.

Is he not allowed to share his opinion?