Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:Boy, we sure put that Black woman in her place. This whole thread disgusts me.

This is clearly about a lot more than race, though, isn't it?

I mean, Liz Magill got run off first and Republicans are after MIT prez as well.

DP. You are very astute, PP. It's not just about race (or anti-semitism, DEI, or academic standards, etc). The overarching theme here is the growing GOP attack on "elite universities." And that's not just my opinion. A GOP congressman said as much (see below). The congressional anti-semitism hearing was just the opening salvo.

House Republicans have a long-term plan to strip elite universities of government funding and federal student loan dollars, Rep. Jim Banks, R-Ind., told a group of business leaders during a private Zoom call Friday.

Banks, an ally of former President Donald Trump, sits on the House Education Committee. The panel recently launched investigations into Harvard, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the University of Pennsylvania. The probe announcements followed a Dec. 5 hearing at which leaders of Harvard, MIT and Penn struggled to clarify their positions on antisemitic speech on campus.

Banks told the business leaders the hearing was the first step in a larger effort to take on Ivy League schools. An audio recording of the call was provided to CNBC by an attendee who requested anonymity in order to share a private conversation.

“The second step is the investigation, the subpoenas, gathering all of the documents and the records from these universities to prove the point,” said Banks. “That they’re not just allowing this behavior to occur, they’re fostering it and creating an unsafe environment for Jewish students on their campus because of it,” he said.

“And once we prove it, third, that’s when we defund these universities by cracking down on not backing their student loans, taxing their endowments and forcing the administration to actually conduct civil rights investigations,” said Banks.

Banks’ frank description of lawmakers’ plans offers a previously unreported window into at least some members of Congress’ long-term goals with regard to at least two Ivy League universities and MIT, another elite university. The House Education Committee chair, Rep. Virginia Foxx, R-N.C., said in an interview on NewsNation that the committee is also looking at Columbia University and Cornell University.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/18/ivy-league-crackdown-house-republicans-plan-to-defund-top-universities.html

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

I am a DP

The Palestinian people are pawns for Hamas.
The Israeli people are pawns for Likud.

Both sets of leaders need to go away so a two state solution can be viable.

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

Please stop blaming this woman's resignation on the Jews

Why?

It is obvious they switched sides on her, prompting her fall.

[Anonymous]

Back to basics.

Congresswoman Elise Stefanik if a hypothetical call for the genocide of Jewish people would qualify as a violation of Harvard's code of conduct, Gay responded, "It can be, depending on the context."

Would you be at ease if Elise Stafanik stated the same hypothetical situation calling for the genocide of blacks and Gay responded, "It can be, depending on the context" ?

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

I am a DP

The Palestinian people are pawns for Hamas.
The Israeli people are pawns for Likud.

Both sets of leaders need to go away so a two state solution can be viable.

Some argue there are two states already, Israel and Jordan.

Too much nuance for some educated "elites" I know.

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

I’ve seen many, many videos from both sides dating back many years. I have also read books from both sides.

You are going to have to live with the fact that rational people are able to consume sources from a variety of places and not believe only one side. For instance, the idea that I should automatically believe every word written by South Africa of all countries is categorically absurd.

Anyhow, you don’t seem rational so I’m done engaging.

I have spent a good part of my career working in HR, including legal tribunals. The sources are there if you want to believe them. The problem is that inherent believe that brown = terrorist; black = criminal. That is a big part of the American psyche and why Israel is allowed to get away with so GD much. You don't seem willing to understand that so I'm done engaging. Luckily, younger generations are not their parents or grandparents and are far more likely to know and understand people of different backgrounds. My hope is that future generations will not hold the biases that you do

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

Please stop blaming this woman's resignation on the Jews

Why?

It is obvious they switched sides on her, prompting her fall.

WAsn't it Bill Ackman (Jewish and married to an Israeli) who led the charge for her removal? I don't understand. Jewish resentment and Gay's failure to align with zionist beliefs is the direct cause for her removal. Why are we pretending that it wasn't?

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

Please stop blaming this woman's resignation on the Jews

Why?

It is obvious they switched sides on her, prompting her fall.

WAsn't it Bill Ackman (Jewish and married to an Israeli) who led the charge for her removal? I don't understand. Jewish resentment and Gay's failure to align with zionist beliefs is the direct cause for her removal. Why are we pretending that it wasn't?

That is all probably true, but it is also true that Gay was exposed as an academic fraudster who shouldn't be in Harvard to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

Please stop blaming this woman's resignation on the Jews

Why?

It is obvious they switched sides on her, prompting her fall.

WAsn't it Bill Ackman (Jewish and married to an Israeli) who led the charge for her removal? I don't understand. Jewish resentment and Gay's failure to align with zionist beliefs is the direct cause for her removal. Why are we pretending that it wasn't?

And you wonder why everyone accuses you of anti-semitism. Do you also blame firings on black people when the NAACP gets someone fired?

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

Please stop blaming this woman's resignation on the Jews

Why?

It is obvious they switched sides on her, prompting her fall.

WAsn't it Bill Ackman (Jewish and married to an Israeli) who led the charge for her removal? I don't understand. Jewish resentment and Gay's failure to align with zionist beliefs is the direct cause for her removal. Why are we pretending that it wasn't?

Bill Ackman punched down. He's still pals with Elon, the biggest antisemite there is.

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What does plagiarism have to do with Jewish people? Did she plagiarize someone Jewish?

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

Please stop blaming this woman's resignation on the Jews

Why?

It is obvious they switched sides on her, prompting her fall.

WAsn't it Bill Ackman (Jewish and married to an Israeli) who led the charge for her removal? I don't understand. Jewish resentment and Gay's failure to align with zionist beliefs is the direct cause for her removal. Why are we pretending that it wasn't?

And you wonder why everyone accuses you of anti-semitism. Do you also blame firings on black people when the NAACP gets someone fired?

Bill Ackman has directly stated the reason for her removal. It's all over his Twitter and in print. The pro-Zionist crowd is directly responsible and were the primary (and only) actors in her removal. This is not rocket science. Why when these actors have taken credit (see ADL) do you continue to deny it, and act like it's some big secret? It's not. .https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/12/business/bill-ackman-harvard-antisemitism.html

They are quite happy with themselves. And their chosen replacement is a clear signal of values.

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

I’ve seen many, many videos from both sides dating back many years. I have also read books from both sides.

You are going to have to live with the fact that rational people are able to consume sources from a variety of places and not believe only one side. For instance, the idea that I should automatically believe every word written by South Africa of all countries is categorically absurd.

Anyhow, you don’t seem rational so I’m done engaging.

I have spent a good part of my career working in HR, including legal tribunals. The sources are there if you want to believe them. The problem is that inherent believe that brown = terrorist; black = criminal. That is a big part of the American psyche and why Israel is allowed to get away with so GD much. You don't seem willing to understand that so I'm done engaging. Luckily, younger generations are not their parents or grandparents and are far more likely to know and understand people of different backgrounds. My hope is that future generations will not hold the biases that you do

I know why you're done engaging. You're ludicrous and silly and incapable of logical and reasonable thought, let alone conversation. I can tell from the words you use in your post and your delusional beliefs and ranting about terrorists and criminals and skin colors.

Irony is that Hamas are terrorists. Indisputably terrorists. What else do you call October 7? What do you call the kinds of atrocities that happened on October 7?

But run away, won't you. Because you're scared of the truth interfering with your progressive left wing world view that sees all brown people as oppressed and all white people as oppressors.

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Anonymous wrote:Tik-tok has been so effective at brainwashing people on this. I am truly afraid for the next election, with so many low-information people willing to become chines/iranian/terrorist-loving puppets.

I'm amazed at how many people truly know nothing about the Israeli government or their systematic human rights violations for nearly a century. Do you honestly not know or refuse to educate yourself on it? Have you read any of the UN reports, foundational documents, seen any of the documentaries or eye witness accounts from the ground?

It's crazy to me how many of you guys live with blinders on. Or it's just plain racism. You hate Arabs and Muslims so much that you're able to swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

DP. I’ve read a lot of UN reports about alleged human rights violations by Israel but after watching how the UN reacted to the 10/7 atrocities I no longer trust the UN.

You don't have to trust the UN. There are thousands of video documentations by numerous different sources. You just don't watch them, and that is the problem with most Americans. They have inherent bias against Arabs because they have been fed media to believe that everyone is a terrorist. Sort of how they believe that all AA are criminals. It is this bias that allows Israel to continue its apartheid practices with zero intervention.

This sort of over-the-top accusatory and frankly ridiculous response makes your entire position weak.

The fact is that many Americans have seen many, many videos. Some are indeed videos from Israel that are awful. Some are the videos that Hamas uploads to its own Telegram channels, or other videos from radical Islamists. You seem to want us to only believe the first group and ignore the second group, and that’s not going to happen for rational people.

Out of curiosity, how many videos have you watched from 2000? or 2014? or 2018? How many Palestinians have you spoken with who suffered administrative detention with zero charges and zero wrong doing? And have you read the ICJ charging docs filed by South Africa regarding genocide and ethnic cleansing? The thing is for any rational human the knowledge of the facts contained in the ICJ case would move you to call for a ceasefire and end to the occupation. How anyone could ignore Israel's actions is beyond me. Unless of course you do not see Arabs as human. And that really could be the only answer.

Please stop blaming this woman's resignation on the Jews

Why?

It is obvious they switched sides on her, prompting her fall.

WAsn't it Bill Ackman (Jewish and married to an Israeli) who led the charge for her removal? I don't understand. Jewish resentment and Gay's failure to align with zionist beliefs is the direct cause for her removal. Why are we pretending that it wasn't?

That is all probably true, but it is also true that Gay was exposed as an academic fraudster who shouldn't be in Harvard to begin with.

And it's equally true that Bill Ackman has had an axe to grind with DEI programs before the events in Israel, and his anti-DEI crusade is picking up speed and intensity. He's not stopping with Gay.

After exit of Claudine Gay, Bill Ackman paints bull's-eye on diversity programs
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harvard-claudine-gay-bill-ackman-diversity-and-inclusion/

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Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true at the same time:

1. Gay was targeted by right-wing media because she is a black woman
2. Gay is a plagiarist and needed to resign

She plagiarized over and over again, many times beyond just boilerplate language. This shows an intent to deceive, which then calls into question her data and all her scholarship.

This makes me very sad, especially for all the women of color in academia who Claudine Gay was supposed to represent.

Read the story of Priyanga Amarasekare, who remains suspended at UCLA and no one will say exactly why.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/when-a-professor-disappears-and-no-one-will-tell-you-why
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-00473-8

So she’s being pushed to the brink of sanity and her students’s opportunities destroyed because of protocol in the wake of complaining about discrimination - literally nothing to do with her scholarship, her publications, her research, her cites, her mentorship. Some piece of shit chancellor is mad at her and wants her destroyed. May that chancellor get it back twentyfold in this lifetime.

Except it does have to with her scholarship. I also originally thought it was no big deal, but she lifted almost entire paragraphs from other people's work, and then didn't acknowledge that work as a source - that shows a clear intent to deceive. And she plagiarized the acknowledgements in her doctoral thesis. I mean, come on.

Dr. Gay is accused of plagiarizing two sentences in the acknowledgments of her 1997 Harvard dissertation from the acknowledgments in the 1996 book “Facing Up to the American Dream: Race, Class, and the Soul of the Nation,” by the Harvard political scientist Jennifer L. Hochschild.

Dr. Hochschild: “Sandy Jencks showed me the importance of getting the data right and of following where they lead without fear or favor,” adding later that Mr. Jencks “drove me much harder than I sometimes wanted to be driven.”

Dr. Gay thanked her thesis adviser, Gary King, who “reminded me of the importance of getting the data right and following where they lead without fear or favor.” She also thanked her family, who “drove me harder than I sometimes wanted to be driven.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/21/us/claudine-gay-harvard-president-excerpts.html

This is ridiculous! Yeah. She had to go.

No, her doctoral degree needs to be rescinded since it was obtained in violation of Harvard's rules on student conduct and plagiarism.