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Yes, they postured. At the end of the day they want people who will make them richer. |
Wut? |
^^Speaking of nonsense... "people" are waking up daily to the utter hypocrisy of people like you. Which is great news. |
Aww. Someone's jealous of the billionaire.
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Not at all. Who the hell wants to be a billionaire? Sounds like a miserable life. |
Psst: you're the one who sounds extremely miserable. |
| Being from Michigan, Hillsdale is spoken in almost hushed tones. It’s almost as if people feel sorry for the students. They had some snappy billboards in the Metro Stations featuring a future Ward Cleaver, so they have that going for them. |
What are you talking about? |
Ooh, you found a three-syllable word to parrot! |
| Hillsdale . . . Like, Michigan’s Hillsdale? The next Harvard? Lololol |
| I’m from Michigan and University of Michigan is considered our best public university and Hillsdale is considered our best private college. This wasn’t always the case, as Kalamazoo College is great, but in the last 20 years or so Hillsdale has become more attractive because of its unique identity, its academic rigor and pedagogical ethos. It is a traditional school and attracts conservatives for that very reason. It isn’t Harvard, but because it is completely private it does whatever it wants, which is to be an educational institution devoted to an older conception of the liberal arts. They don’t really care much about academic trends, and their purpose is to help mold a well-rounded and moral citizen. The students aren’t trained to be activists to create a new society, but to conserve and appreciation of the cultural monuments of the past. It has a fascinating history full of successes and major problems which you can take a look at. Hillsdale takes a libertarian approach both to funding and probably irritates people who want conformity and control over education, but because they do this they actually have a lot of money and have proven higher education can exist out of the public university model. |
That’s a lot of words to say they miss the 50s when white men could do whatever they want and got all the goods. |
| Hillsdale thinks capitalism helps everyone “get the goods”. It was an early force for abolition, so good luck making it into some white supremacist institution. |
Except it isn’t a college like any other. It’s a college run by really gross human being (Arnn, BFF to Mike Pemce, who referred to nonwhite students as “the dark ones” in Congressional testimony). It doesn’t take federal money, at all, in any way. And does not allow its students to do so. So it can (and does) restrict 1A rights (look at their code of conduct, it is nearly impossible to protest anything in any manner without being suspended or expelled, to express attraction to a member of the same sex, or to report rape and be treated with compassion). Plus, students are not allowed to discuss/ raise issues related to racism or sexism in class. https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-hillsdale-president-says-racism-is-like-sexuality-neither-should-be-discussed-in-classroom Hillsdale has carte blanche violate students’ civil rights, discriminate on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation and ethnicity and (most disturbingly to me) ignore title IX, and federal protections and due process for women in situations like rape on campus. In fact, they can (and have) retaliated against women reporting rape and failed to investigate rape allegations. Because no need to ruin the Brock Turners of the world’s lives. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-students-accuse-hillsdale-college-retaliating-reporting-sexual-ass-rcna123864 https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/lawsuit-alleges-hillsdale-college-fails-to-investigate-reports-of-sexual-assault/ So no punishing rapists— that’s normal male urges. Locker Room Talk! But, yes to punishing a student spotted laying on the grass with his head on his BF’s lap. No wonder Charlie Kirk loves this place. Now, Hillsdale is clear— it will allow gay people to matriculate. As long as it’s don’t ask do don’t tell. No LGBTQ affinity groups, open discussion of being homosexual or same sex affection allowed. Students believed to be gay are quietly given the names of a couple of professors believed to be sympathetic to the plight and willing to discuss how the f**k this poor gay kid ended up at Hillsdale (spoiler alert: dad wants to straighten jr out) behind close door and off the record. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/04/10/the-christian-liberal-arts-school-at-the-heart-of-the-culture-wars And BTW— you thought book banning stopped in HS? Hillsdale is at the forefront of the book banning culture wars. https://www.salon.com/2022/03/15/how-this-tiny-christian-college-is-driving-the-rights-nationwide-against-public-schools/ And movie. At Hillsdale, students ans student groups can’t show movies with “inordinate displays of affection”. Girls can visit boys residence halls for 4 hours on Tuesdays. Then switch and boys can visit girls for 4 hours Wednesdays. (So cute! Just like the 1960s). Dinesh D’Souza (now out of prison thanks to Trump) and Andy Ngo are two of their “speakers”. Clarence Thomas is a huge supporter. Ginni Thomas was on the Board of Trustees. Not taking federal money also means no research grants. But, I guess that’s no big loss for a college that doesn’t teach evolution. The NIH was not going to come knocking on their door anyway. Also, students can’t take out federal loans to attend and are ineligible for grants. Which is bigger than you think. My DS got a State Department critical languages scholarship to spend the summer in Korea. All expenses paid. Academic credit to transfer, nd 2 years of federal hiring preference. Hillsdale students cannot accept these grants. They also cannot get Pell grants. So yeah— rich white school (just because a school refuses to provide demographics doesn’t make it diverse. In fact, the opposite is usually true. Hillsdale visitors notice that staff and students are “overwhelming white” (see th New Yorker reticle linked above can’t take tuition tax credits. So, students whose parents take out loans are paying a lot more than they would for the same cost at Liberty. But hey! They can fake rape investigations, deny their students state and government career opportunities, make life miserable for LGBTQ students spotted expressing any affection, expel protestors and operate with zero transparency. What’s not to love? I can definitely see them overtaking Harvard any century now. Started the 1776 Project. Hosts discussions on why 1/6 was a hoax. And Ginni Thomas is leading the way. /s |
If your president calls non-white students “the dark ones” and complains that the Board of Visitors only comes to count whether there are enough “dark ones,”you might be a racist a**hat. |