Pro Israel demonstration in DC?

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

NP here, but what is delusional about this post? I am disturbed by the fervor of the far right to support Israel in ways that seem troubling, sometimes even antisemitic (Christian fundamentalists).

I’m not being sarcastic. Genuinely asking what is delusional. I’m wondering if Jews have gone too far in our support for Israel.

How about the characterization of people asking for child hostages to be released as "complete and utter monsters?" Do you thank that's something a rational person would say.

I'm not Jewish. But, I support Israel because they're an (imperfect) democracy fighting a death cult who sends fighters to rape and murder people at a music festival. It's a pretty easy call who to support.

Except IDF soldiers have been raping, murdering and burning Palestinians for decades. But that doesn't make you angry becuase being anti-Arab is good old American values. I'm amazed at posters like PP, and wonder if she's ever bothered reading up on what has happened to the Palestinians at the hands of the Israelis over the past 75 years. Or she knows but cannot feel any empathy because they are brown?

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Anonymous wrote:I was at the march and was amazed at how much disagreement among Israel’s supporters there are, not to mention differences among Jews. I’d say the majority there are more opposed to antisemitism and less rah rah about Israel.

Two Jews, three opinions!

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

What I call delusional are the pro-genocide denialists who pretend like they haven't been in favor of displacing millions of Palestinians from their homes. When you takeover land that has millions of native inhabitants, what do you think will happen to them? Zionism is colonialism and we should not be having valid discussions on these issues in 2023. The fact that you believe the right of Palestinians born and raised in the region can be displaced by immigrants from Europe and the US who had not stepped foot in Palestinian for 2000 years is shocking and abhorrent.

We need to start calling Israel out for the war crimes and terrorism that it has undertaken daily for the past 75 years.

The Palestinians could have had their own state, but they rejected it and launched a new intifada. The Israelis left the Gaza Strip in 2005, and Hamas decided to turn it into a terrorism factory, rather than improve life for their own people. They are largely reaping what they sowed.

You're just another empty-headed progressive, bleating vapid propaganda phrases. Your understanding of history, or lack thereof, is just embarrassing and sad. You should go back to tearing down posters of kidnapped Israeli kids and threatening Jewish college girls, rather than trying to talk with adults.

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

NP here, but what is delusional about this post? I am disturbed by the fervor of the far right to support Israel in ways that seem troubling, sometimes even antisemitic (Christian fundamentalists).

I’m not being sarcastic. Genuinely asking what is delusional. I’m wondering if Jews have gone too far in our support for Israel.

How about the characterization of people asking for child hostages to be released as "complete and utter monsters?" Do you thank that's something a rational person would say.

I'm not Jewish. But, I support Israel because they're an (imperfect) democracy fighting a death cult who sends fighters to rape and murder people at a music festival. It's a pretty easy call who to support.

PP here. Yes, I agree that anyone opposed to release of hostages is insane or even evil. But to call Palestinians a death cult is not something this Jew can support.

The deaths of the thousands of Palestinians children is weighing heavily on me. I am firmly opposed to Netanyahu’s government and the hard right’s vision of what Israel should be. I guess I’m less sure than you are about who to support.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if a pro Israel rally is planned for DC area as a counter to all the Palestinian protests that have taken place?

I believe it is a rally supporting Israel, to fight against anti-Semitism, and also a call to release the hostages.

It is a rally to call for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians people. And because they get $300B to do it, I guess they're pretty comfortable in their request.

No.
It’s a call to support Israel and to support Jews who can hold two things in their heads and hearts at once: Desire for Israelis to live in peace and security (and Jews there and elsewhere not to be exterminated as Hamas and their supporters would like) and an end to violence which also means an end to bombings in Gaza, humanitarian aid to people in Gaza, and return of hostages.

Many who I know attending want bombing to end, peace for Palestinians, statehood for Palestinians, peace for Israelis, they are critics of the Netanyahu government.

If you don’t want pro-Palestinians painted as terrorist loving Jew haters then don’t stereotype those attending a pro-Israel march.

I watched it live for some time and they are not calling for peace or a ceasefire. The tone is very nationalistic

I have watched for a while.
Mostly students speaking up to this point. They express pride in their Judaism. They are also speaking to the antisemitism they have suffered.
I have heard at least 3 speakers talk about the hostages and how they need to be released.
Make that 4 speakers. Another one just spoke about it.

So tone deaf for the wealthy college kids to talk about their suffering when Gazan children have literally had their body parts blown off in strikes. Entire families disintegrated. But we're getting tears from students re: how hard it was to watch protests calling for peace. Disgusting

Weird—I thought wealthy college kids are anti-Israel, or at least cosplaying as freedom fighters.

Some are, but the dirty little secret is that a significant percentage of the protestors on campus are here on a student visa, and they're engaging in intimidation and sometimes violence against American citizens.

Unless you can provide a cite, my guess is that student visa holders do not comprise a significant percentage of the posters.

It's that good old racism again. Of course we believe that the Pro-Israel Jewish kids are Americans because of their whiteness but the Arab-looking, POC kids must be foreigners. And in the same breathe the pro-Israel folks keep telling us how persecuted they are. Not buying it this time. Sorry, folks.

How many times does this need to be said?
This conflict has nothing to do with color.
Jews and Arabs, Palestinians and Israelis LOOK THE SAME.

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

NP here, but what is delusional about this post? I am disturbed by the fervor of the far right to support Israel in ways that seem troubling, sometimes even antisemitic (Christian fundamentalists).

I’m not being sarcastic. Genuinely asking what is delusional. I’m wondering if Jews have gone too far in our support for Israel.

How about the characterization of people asking for child hostages to be released as "complete and utter monsters?" Do you thank that's something a rational person would say.

I'm not Jewish. But, I support Israel because they're an (imperfect) democracy fighting a death cult who sends fighters to rape and murder people at a music festival. It's a pretty easy call who to support.

Except IDF soldiers have been raping, murdering and burning Palestinians for decades. But that doesn't make you angry becuase being anti-Arab is good old American values. I'm amazed at posters like PP, and wonder if she's ever bothered reading up on what has happened to the Palestinians at the hands of the Israelis over the past 75 years. Or she knows but cannot feel any empathy because they are brown?

They. are. no. more. brown. than. Israelis.
STOP IT.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if a pro Israel rally is planned for DC area as a counter to all the Palestinian protests that have taken place?

I believe it is a rally supporting Israel, to fight against anti-Semitism, and also a call to release the hostages.

It is a rally to call for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians people. And because they get $300B to do it, I guess they're pretty comfortable in their request.

No.
It’s a call to support Israel and to support Jews who can hold two things in their heads and hearts at once: Desire for Israelis to live in peace and security (and Jews there and elsewhere not to be exterminated as Hamas and their supporters would like) and an end to violence which also means an end to bombings in Gaza, humanitarian aid to people in Gaza, and return of hostages.

Many who I know attending want bombing to end, peace for Palestinians, statehood for Palestinians, peace for Israelis, they are critics of the Netanyahu government.

If you don’t want pro-Palestinians painted as terrorist loving Jew haters then don’t stereotype those attending a pro-Israel march.

I watched it live for some time and they are not calling for peace or a ceasefire. The tone is very nationalistic

I have watched for a while.
Mostly students speaking up to this point. They express pride in their Judaism. They are also speaking to the antisemitism they have suffered.
I have heard at least 3 speakers talk about the hostages and how they need to be released.
Make that 4 speakers. Another one just spoke about it.

So tone deaf for the wealthy college kids to talk about their suffering when Gazan children have literally had their body parts blown off in strikes. Entire families disintegrated. But we're getting tears from students re: how hard it was to watch protests calling for peace. Disgusting

Weird—I thought wealthy college kids are anti-Israel, or at least cosplaying as freedom fighters.

Some are, but the dirty little secret is that a significant percentage of the protestors on campus are here on a student visa, and they're engaging in intimidation and sometimes violence against American citizens.

Unless you can provide a cite, my guess is that student visa holders do not comprise a significant percentage of the posters.

It's that good old racism again. Of course we believe that the Pro-Israel Jewish kids are Americans because of their whiteness but the Arab-looking, POC kids must be foreigners. And in the same breathe the pro-Israel folks keep telling us how persecuted they are. Not buying it this time. Sorry, folks.

How many times does this need to be said?
This conflict has nothing to do with color.
Jews and Arabs, Palestinians and Israelis LOOK THE SAME.

Nope. Ask any Israeli if they can spot a Palestinian and vice versa. There may be some overlap, but Jewish Israelis look European. Palestinians, especially those from Gaza, are typically brown—they do not look European.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

What I call delusional are the pro-genocide denialists who pretend like they haven't been in favor of displacing millions of Palestinians from their homes. When you takeover land that has millions of native inhabitants, what do you think will happen to them? Zionism is colonialism and we should not be having valid discussions on these issues in 2023. The fact that you believe the right of Palestinians born and raised in the region can be displaced by immigrants from Europe and the US who had not stepped foot in Palestinian for 2000 years is shocking and abhorrent.

We need to start calling Israel out for the war crimes and terrorism that it has undertaken daily for the past 75 years.

The Palestinians could have had their own state, but they rejected it and launched a new intifada. The Israelis left the Gaza Strip in 2005, and Hamas decided to turn it into a terrorism factory, rather than improve life for their own people. They are largely reaping what they sowed.

You're just another empty-headed progressive, bleating vapid propaganda phrases. Your understanding of history, or lack thereof, is just embarrassing and sad. You should go back to tearing down posters of kidnapped Israeli kids and threatening Jewish college girls, rather than trying to talk with adults.

Honestly, STFU. We're so tired of these lies. Israel offered crap terms with no right of return, no safety for Palestinians and no right to E Jerusalem. There were zero bona fide efforts by them. Israel deliberately gave crappy deals so that people like you could then say "but but the Palestinians!!!".

Israelis are murderous terrorists who stole land and killed natives. They've been on a misinformation binge for 75 years trying to rewrite history to center them as the victims. It is BS and we are not buying it any more. Everything that Israel has claimed has been a lie and we have seen it in real time.

While you cry for another genocide, we're trying to prevent it. We know what side of history that you are on.

[Anonymous]

Of course this thread is yet another one that has turned nasty with people who can’t wait to use this opportunity as another one to scream “Zionazi” at Jews. So happy that I went to the rally to feel the support of the US government and Jews from around the country, and no hatred expressed towards anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if a pro Israel rally is planned for DC area as a counter to all the Palestinian protests that have taken place?

I believe it is a rally supporting Israel, to fight against anti-Semitism, and also a call to release the hostages.

It is a rally to call for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians people. And because they get $300B to do it, I guess they're pretty comfortable in their request.

No.
It’s a call to support Israel and to support Jews who can hold two things in their heads and hearts at once: Desire for Israelis to live in peace and security (and Jews there and elsewhere not to be exterminated as Hamas and their supporters would like) and an end to violence which also means an end to bombings in Gaza, humanitarian aid to people in Gaza, and return of hostages.

Many who I know attending want bombing to end, peace for Palestinians, statehood for Palestinians, peace for Israelis, they are critics of the Netanyahu government.

If you don’t want pro-Palestinians painted as terrorist loving Jew haters then don’t stereotype those attending a pro-Israel march.

I watched it live for some time and they are not calling for peace or a ceasefire. The tone is very nationalistic

I have watched for a while.
Mostly students speaking up to this point. They express pride in their Judaism. They are also speaking to the antisemitism they have suffered.
I have heard at least 3 speakers talk about the hostages and how they need to be released.
Make that 4 speakers. Another one just spoke about it.

So tone deaf for the wealthy college kids to talk about their suffering when Gazan children have literally had their body parts blown off in strikes. Entire families disintegrated. But we're getting tears from students re: how hard it was to watch protests calling for peace. Disgusting

Weird—I thought wealthy college kids are anti-Israel, or at least cosplaying as freedom fighters.

Some are, but the dirty little secret is that a significant percentage of the protestors on campus are here on a student visa, and they're engaging in intimidation and sometimes violence against American citizens.

Unless you can provide a cite, my guess is that student visa holders do not comprise a significant percentage of the posters.

It's that good old racism again. Of course we believe that the Pro-Israel Jewish kids are Americans because of their whiteness but the Arab-looking, POC kids must be foreigners. And in the same breathe the pro-Israel folks keep telling us how persecuted they are. Not buying it this time. Sorry, folks.

How many times does this need to be said?
This conflict has nothing to do with color.
Jews and Arabs, Palestinians and Israelis LOOK THE SAME.

Oh, yeah. All those Jewish college students crying online have been super brown. All I've seen have been a bunch of privileged, white college kids sipping on lattes crying that they didn't like the political protests near them. They're offended that kids are calling for a stop to ethnic cleansing. And these kids are doing what they do best and it's targeting POC kids because the world will automatically see them as villains. It's disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if a pro Israel rally is planned for DC area as a counter to all the Palestinian protests that have taken place?

I believe it is a rally supporting Israel, to fight against anti-Semitism, and also a call to release the hostages.

It is a rally to call for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians people. And because they get $300B to do it, I guess they're pretty comfortable in their request.

No.
It’s a call to support Israel and to support Jews who can hold two things in their heads and hearts at once: Desire for Israelis to live in peace and security (and Jews there and elsewhere not to be exterminated as Hamas and their supporters would like) and an end to violence which also means an end to bombings in Gaza, humanitarian aid to people in Gaza, and return of hostages.

Many who I know attending want bombing to end, peace for Palestinians, statehood for Palestinians, peace for Israelis, they are critics of the Netanyahu government.

If you don’t want pro-Palestinians painted as terrorist loving Jew haters then don’t stereotype those attending a pro-Israel march.

I watched it live for some time and they are not calling for peace or a ceasefire. The tone is very nationalistic

I have watched for a while.
Mostly students speaking up to this point. They express pride in their Judaism. They are also speaking to the antisemitism they have suffered.
I have heard at least 3 speakers talk about the hostages and how they need to be released.
Make that 4 speakers. Another one just spoke about it.

So tone deaf for the wealthy college kids to talk about their suffering when Gazan children have literally had their body parts blown off in strikes. Entire families disintegrated. But we're getting tears from students re: how hard it was to watch protests calling for peace. Disgusting

Weird—I thought wealthy college kids are anti-Israel, or at least cosplaying as freedom fighters.

Some are, but the dirty little secret is that a significant percentage of the protestors on campus are here on a student visa, and they're engaging in intimidation and sometimes violence against American citizens.

Unless you can provide a cite, my guess is that student visa holders do not comprise a significant percentage of the posters.

It's that good old racism again. Of course we believe that the Pro-Israel Jewish kids are Americans because of their whiteness but the Arab-looking, POC kids must be foreigners. And in the same breathe the pro-Israel folks keep telling us how persecuted they are. Not buying it this time. Sorry, folks.

How many times does this need to be said?
This conflict has nothing to do with color.
Jews and Arabs, Palestinians and Israelis LOOK THE SAME.

Nope. Ask any Israeli if they can spot a Palestinian and vice versa. There may be some overlap, but Jewish Israelis look European. Palestinians, especially those from Gaza, are typically brown—they do not look European.

Tell me you’ve never been to Israel without telling me you’ve never been to Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if a pro Israel rally is planned for DC area as a counter to all the Palestinian protests that have taken place?

I believe it is a rally supporting Israel, to fight against anti-Semitism, and also a call to release the hostages.

It is a rally to call for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians people. And because they get $300B to do it, I guess they're pretty comfortable in their request.

No.
It’s a call to support Israel and to support Jews who can hold two things in their heads and hearts at once: Desire for Israelis to live in peace and security (and Jews there and elsewhere not to be exterminated as Hamas and their supporters would like) and an end to violence which also means an end to bombings in Gaza, humanitarian aid to people in Gaza, and return of hostages.

Many who I know attending want bombing to end, peace for Palestinians, statehood for Palestinians, peace for Israelis, they are critics of the Netanyahu government.

If you don’t want pro-Palestinians painted as terrorist loving Jew haters then don’t stereotype those attending a pro-Israel march.

I watched it live for some time and they are not calling for peace or a ceasefire. The tone is very nationalistic

I have watched for a while.
Mostly students speaking up to this point. They express pride in their Judaism. They are also speaking to the antisemitism they have suffered.
I have heard at least 3 speakers talk about the hostages and how they need to be released.
Make that 4 speakers. Another one just spoke about it.

So tone deaf for the wealthy college kids to talk about their suffering when Gazan children have literally had their body parts blown off in strikes. Entire families disintegrated. But we're getting tears from students re: how hard it was to watch protests calling for peace. Disgusting

Weird—I thought wealthy college kids are anti-Israel, or at least cosplaying as freedom fighters.

Some are, but the dirty little secret is that a significant percentage of the protestors on campus are here on a student visa, and they're engaging in intimidation and sometimes violence against American citizens.

Unless you can provide a cite, my guess is that student visa holders do not comprise a significant percentage of the posters.

It's that good old racism again. Of course we believe that the Pro-Israel Jewish kids are Americans because of their whiteness but the Arab-looking, POC kids must be foreigners. And in the same breathe the pro-Israel folks keep telling us how persecuted they are. Not buying it this time. Sorry, folks.

How many times does this need to be said?
This conflict has nothing to do with color.
Jews and Arabs, Palestinians and Israelis LOOK THE SAME.

Nope. Ask any Israeli if they can spot a Palestinian and vice versa. There may be some overlap, but Jewish Israelis look European. Palestinians, especially those from Gaza, are typically brown—they do not look European.

This is a total lie.
You've never seen either.
They look exactly the same.
Genetically similar to each other and genetically not at all European.

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Anonymous wrote:Tens of thousands of people marching to celebrate genocide. No one is going to convinced to support Israel from this stunt. If anything, it’s the opposite.

I mean this rally could have been named, “Support for genocide” I mean do people have no shame these days???

Obviously you aren’t there or you wouldn’t say this. Absolutely no one is marching to support genocide and almost every speaker has mentioned innocent Palestinian lives lost and hopes for peace in the region. Sorry that it doesn’t fit in with your narrative.

Zionism explicitly calls for genocide. This march was all for the complete abolition of the Palestinian people and their removal from their generational homeland. Yes, we save Van Jones call for peace - and then we saw the pro-genocide crowd break into "no ceasefire" chants.

These people are complete and utter monsters. I don't think there's anyway that Israel can recover its image from this - at least not from those that believe in human rights. The far right and evangelicals love it because they also believe in mass extermination of those that they deem unworthy. Couldn't have found better bedfellows.

You are completely delusional.

NP here, but what is delusional about this post? I am disturbed by the fervor of the far right to support Israel in ways that seem troubling, sometimes even antisemitic (Christian fundamentalists).

I’m not being sarcastic. Genuinely asking what is delusional. I’m wondering if Jews have gone too far in our support for Israel.

How about the characterization of people asking for child hostages to be released as "complete and utter monsters?" Do you thank that's something a rational person would say.

I'm not Jewish. But, I support Israel because they're an (imperfect) democracy fighting a death cult who sends fighters to rape and murder people at a music festival. It's a pretty easy call who to support.

Except IDF soldiers have been raping, murdering and burning Palestinians for decades. But that doesn't make you angry becuase being anti-Arab is good old American values. I'm amazed at posters like PP, and wonder if she's ever bothered reading up on what has happened to the Palestinians at the hands of the Israelis over the past 75 years. Or she knows but cannot feel any empathy because they are brown?

They. are. no. more. brown. than. Israelis.
STOP IT.

I mean, I see why you want this to be the case. Racism is tough to defend. But every Zionist I have ever met or read about was European. That’s why they look like Europeans.

[Anonymous]

Note to any pro-Israel demonstration organizers: You will get more sympathy if you don’t include that smug, vacuous, self-congratulating putz Chuck Schumer among your speakers.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if a pro Israel rally is planned for DC area as a counter to all the Palestinian protests that have taken place?

I believe it is a rally supporting Israel, to fight against anti-Semitism, and also a call to release the hostages.

It is a rally to call for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians people. And because they get $300B to do it, I guess they're pretty comfortable in their request.

No.
It’s a call to support Israel and to support Jews who can hold two things in their heads and hearts at once: Desire for Israelis to live in peace and security (and Jews there and elsewhere not to be exterminated as Hamas and their supporters would like) and an end to violence which also means an end to bombings in Gaza, humanitarian aid to people in Gaza, and return of hostages.

Many who I know attending want bombing to end, peace for Palestinians, statehood for Palestinians, peace for Israelis, they are critics of the Netanyahu government.

If you don’t want pro-Palestinians painted as terrorist loving Jew haters then don’t stereotype those attending a pro-Israel march.

I watched it live for some time and they are not calling for peace or a ceasefire. The tone is very nationalistic

I have watched for a while.
Mostly students speaking up to this point. They express pride in their Judaism. They are also speaking to the antisemitism they have suffered.
I have heard at least 3 speakers talk about the hostages and how they need to be released.
Make that 4 speakers. Another one just spoke about it.

So tone deaf for the wealthy college kids to talk about their suffering when Gazan children have literally had their body parts blown off in strikes. Entire families disintegrated. But we're getting tears from students re: how hard it was to watch protests calling for peace. Disgusting

Weird—I thought wealthy college kids are anti-Israel, or at least cosplaying as freedom fighters.

Some are, but the dirty little secret is that a significant percentage of the protestors on campus are here on a student visa, and they're engaging in intimidation and sometimes violence against American citizens.

Unless you can provide a cite, my guess is that student visa holders do not comprise a significant percentage of the posters.

It's that good old racism again. Of course we believe that the Pro-Israel Jewish kids are Americans because of their whiteness but the Arab-looking, POC kids must be foreigners. And in the same breathe the pro-Israel folks keep telling us how persecuted they are. Not buying it this time. Sorry, folks.

How many times does this need to be said?
This conflict has nothing to do with color.
Jews and Arabs, Palestinians and Israelis LOOK THE SAME.

Nope. Ask any Israeli if they can spot a Palestinian and vice versa. There may be some overlap, but Jewish Israelis look European. Palestinians, especially those from Gaza, are typically brown—they do not look European.

This is a total lie.
You've never seen either.
They look exactly the same.
Genetically similar to each other and genetically not at all European.

I lived in Jerusalem for 15 years you fool. People can absolutely tell the difference.