Fight btw BCC & WJ students after game @ 8:30 Friday night

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

For the record, the WJ theme was “black out”, so yes, when I dropped my 15yo off in all black I was well aware what he was wearing and where he was. He was participating in an age appropriate activity, supporting his friends and school. Others lost control and committed crimes.

That was a really bad idea to tell kids to wear all black at night.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Open lunch for all high school students is indeed ridiculous. You should have to earn the privilege.

The privilege of eating lunch? And how do you think school staff should enforce this, and do you think this is the best use of their time?

The privilege of eating lunch anywhere other than a monitored cafeteria or classroom setting--yes.

This didn't happen at lunch time but it should be an earned privilege. It was easier for BCC when there were more fast food places but most of those have shut down.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think either of these schools has a big problem with student violence. But unfortunately MCPS doesn’t have any plan for dealing with kids with these severe emotional problems. Just before this my kids were telling me about a kid that beat up another kid last year and broke ribs — suspended for a week and then back in school. Everyone at the school knows to avoid him because he has a hair trigger, but apparently the same kid was starting something last week as well.

Parents need to intervene to get the troublemakers removed and put in special placements.

Growing up we had troublemakers who pulled fire alarms. Stop minimizing what this is. These are violent criminals.

Many former special placements/schools have been closed. Often violent students or those who sexually assault are just moved from school to school. This is widespread, not unique to MoCo.

It is unique to very liberal type school systems. Many school systems still have centers and special schools for kids who display violent and extremely aggressive behaviors.

This is newer to MCPS too. The county and MCPS used to have those facilities and the only one left is RICA or a private placement.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Both schools have always had open lunch. None of the high schools have cafeteria's to hold as many kids as they need to and they used to have multiple lunch times and now the schools often just have one lunch, which makes it a nightmare without open lunch.

My point is that these kids are “roaming” without parental supervision every school day.

They are learning on a daily basis that neither home nor school settings have enforceable. We are reaping the consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:There's at least one other video circulating on Instagram of the events - it's longer than the one posted at the top of this thread and it show multiple people on the ground being kicked and stomped. The video shows a pretty big crowd - 20 people at least including a number of girls who are throwing punches and stomping someone. Some of the assailants can be clearly identified. The police and school authorities should have lots of evidence. It sounds like the schools did a lot to try to prevent this from happening; maybe they just need to ban student attendance at games altogether? It's outrageous.

Btw there was a BCC student last year who beat another student with a chair. It made the news and provoked a thread here at the time. One of my DCs graduated from BCC in May and I was shocked to hear the kid's name called for graduation - and he got huge cheers from the crowd. Despite the fact that he'd been violent repeatedly during his time at BCC. I have another kid still at BCC and I think it's a fantastic school in many ways. But there's something really wrong, obviously.

Do you have a link to the IG video, PP?

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Both schools have always had open lunch. None of the high schools have cafeteria's to hold as many kids as they need to and they used to have multiple lunch times and now the schools often just have one lunch, which makes it a nightmare without open lunch.

My point is that these kids are “roaming” without parental supervision every school day.

They are learning on a daily basis that neither home nor school settings have enforceable. We are reaping the consequences.

People need to decide whether this is an awful thing that has always happened or whether this is a new awful thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Both schools have always had open lunch. None of the high schools have cafeteria's to hold as many kids as they need to and they used to have multiple lunch times and now the schools often just have one lunch, which makes it a nightmare without open lunch.

My point is that these kids are “roaming” without parental supervision every school day.

They are learning on a daily basis that neither home nor school settings have enforceable. We are reaping the consequences.

Some homes don't have consequences, many of ours do, which is why all kids aren't acting this way. There are many good and involved parents in this area. But, the few bad seeds ruin it for the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Open lunch for all high school students is indeed ridiculous. You should have to earn the privilege.

The privilege of eating lunch? And how do you think school staff should enforce this, and do you think this is the best use of their time?

The privilege of eating lunch anywhere other than a monitored cafeteria or classroom setting--yes.

They don't all fit in the cafeteria. And teachers are not lunch monitors.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Open lunch for all high school students is indeed ridiculous. You should have to earn the privilege.

The privilege of eating lunch? And how do you think school staff should enforce this, and do you think this is the best use of their time?

The privilege of eating lunch anywhere other than a monitored cafeteria or classroom setting--yes.

They don't all fit in the cafeteria. And teachers are not lunch monitors.

I've had duties to monitor lunch time and breakfasts throughout my career in both private and public school education. I've also stood in the middle of the road in the rain with an umbrella helping students cross a 2 lane highway. When you work in rural and inner city settings, you do what's needed.

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Anonymous wrote:They should fire a couple teachers for good measure

Ha ha. Mooney is having a bad week. The Washington Post has an article on the front page of the metro section about the BCC teacher who is suing him and MCPS

Link? I just searched and didn’t find it.

Look for the headline “Montgomery teacher alleges in a lawsuit he was falsely accused of racism”

I was a brown kid in school in the late 1980s and got told by my teachers that I looked like other brown kids (who looked nothing like me except that we were all brown). I was delighted to receive Mooney’s email last school year and learn that teachers are not supposed to say those things.

I’m not sure if this has already been addressed, but it was shortly after the start of the new semester and the teacher told students who wanted to not sit in their assigned seats that they couldn’t because he was still learning everyone’s names and wasn’t yet able to tell the students in his new classes apart because he was using the seating chart to do so.

I am not dismissing the pain, embarrassment, and racism inherent in the historical misidentification of people of color. I am pointing out the Mooney did not properly handle this situation and called the teacher racist in a formal community letter before actually fully investigating what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Open lunch for all high school students is indeed ridiculous. You should have to earn the privilege.

The privilege of eating lunch? And how do you think school staff should enforce this, and do you think this is the best use of their time?

The privilege of eating lunch anywhere other than a monitored cafeteria or classroom setting--yes.

They don't all fit in the cafeteria. And teachers are not lunch monitors.

I've had duties to monitor lunch time and breakfasts throughout my career in both private and public school education. I've also stood in the middle of the road in the rain with an umbrella helping students cross a 2 lane highway. When you work in rural and inner city settings, you do what's needed.

Your experience is not relevant to MCPS, where teachers have a contract. Though I'm sorry your employers did not have the will and/or resources to treat you like a professional.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Open lunch for all high school students is indeed ridiculous. You should have to earn the privilege.

The privilege of eating lunch? And how do you think school staff should enforce this, and do you think this is the best use of their time?

The privilege of eating lunch anywhere other than a monitored cafeteria or classroom setting--yes.

They don't all fit in the cafeteria. And teachers are not lunch monitors.

Then staggered lunches are needed or eat in classrooms. Ma y schools have to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Open lunch for all high school students is indeed ridiculous. You should have to earn the privilege.

The privilege of eating lunch? And how do you think school staff should enforce this, and do you think this is the best use of their time?

The privilege of eating lunch anywhere other than a monitored cafeteria or classroom setting--yes.

They don't all fit in the cafeteria. And teachers are not lunch monitors.

Then staggered lunches are needed or eat in classrooms. Ma y schools have to do it.

Which high schools in MCPS have multiple/staggered lunch periods?

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Anonymous wrote:I am not convinced that parents are primarily to blame. Several have pointed the finger at lackadaisical parenting skills as a reason for the melee last night. These students are up against a culture that promotes entitlement and disrespect for authority that has been fueled by the pandemic-related events of 2020-2022.

A culture of entitlement and disrespect for authority starts at home. This has nothing to do with the pandemic and kids have been back in school for over two years now. Stop blaming the pandemic for bad parenting. Kids don't get this way overnight. This was many years in the doing, prior to covid and they know they can do it as there is no supervision or consequences at home. MCPS should require a parent or legal guardian to attend these games or close them to the public if students cannot behave without that level of supervision. But, even so, this happened off MCPS property so those "kids" were under the supervision of their parents so ultimately the parents failed somewhere and this didn't just happen 3 years ago. Plenty of kids DON'T behave this way and also went through the pandemic.

Your post is so opinionated and judgmental. Any experienced parent, or wise adult in general, knows that of course parenting matters but it's not everything. Kids are born with certain genetics that you can't always control. Or there are circumstances that you can't control. Experiences that they go through that you can't control. Plenty of well parented kids grow up to have many issues. And plenty of poorly parented kids grow up to be perfectly well adjusted and successful.

We all wish we could point the finger at someone for everything, but the reality is that you can't.

You really want to argue all of those kids are special needs and cannot be controlled. Then they should be in a residential program, like RICA or another program if the parents cannot handle them. Bottomline is where were the parents. They weren't supervising their kids after the football game and the kids violently attacked another. When your kids dress in all black and put masks over their faces, as a parent, that's not a red flag to you?

These are high school kids. Let's say, ages 14-18. Do you think it's inappropriate for kids aged 14-18 to be out in downtown Bethesda on a Friday evening without a parent?

I would not let my 14 year old free roam. 16-18 if they were well behaved sure. But, I expect to know exactly where they are and what they are doing. A 14 year old should not be freely roaming. This is why these things are happening. And, as a parent, if my kid was dressed in all black carrying a face mask common sense is something is seriously off and going to happen.

What exactly constitutes "freely roaming"? Would you expect your kid to text you, "outside the metro station committing assault"? Do you think the kids left home with their ski masks on?

I expect them to text me if there is a change of plans. I would never ever let my kid hang out at a place like that as I know what happens there. This isn't anything new. It was happening 25-40 years ago and still is. People acting shocked shouldn't be. This has always been a rough school hidden by the wealth of Chevy Chase and Bethesda.

You don't monitor what clothing your kids go out in or where they are? This is why this stuff is happening. Until they are 18 and graduated high school they are your responsibility.

Meaning, downtown Bethesda?

Considering BCC (and WJ) students have open lunch. This is extra ridiculous.

Open lunch for all high school students is indeed ridiculous. You should have to earn the privilege.

The privilege of eating lunch? And how do you think school staff should enforce this, and do you think this is the best use of their time?

The privilege of eating lunch anywhere other than a monitored cafeteria or classroom setting--yes.

They don't all fit in the cafeteria. And teachers are not lunch monitors.

I've had duties to monitor lunch time and breakfasts throughout my career in both private and public school education. I've also stood in the middle of the road in the rain with an umbrella helping students cross a 2 lane highway. When you work in rural and inner city settings, you do what's needed.

Your experience is not relevant to MCPS, where teachers have a contract. Though I'm sorry your employers did not have the will and/or resources to treat you like a professional.

Actually, we wanted to help our students stay out of trouble and succeed. I have worked for some incredibly amazing principals who performed those duties along with us (and took on the task of monitoring bathrooms). I can promise you our students were not kicking other kids in the head. Very few were smoking on campus, keeping weapons in their bookbags, using drugs, or having sex in the bathrooms. They were well run schools with dedicated professionals as leaders.

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It's just another strong indicator of MCPS decline when students at these schools act like gang members.

It’s likely because they ARE gang members.

Quite possibly.

Tell me you’ve always lived west of the park without….

Did you get lost from the DC forum? What park in MoCo are you referring to?