Family of Braylon Meade says justice was not served in deadly drunk driving incident

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 22 pages and the rage mongerers likely are neither going to get the sentence in this case changed nor get the public officials who did their jobs with a respect for the law unseated.

You must be proud of all the time you could have spent with your own families raging for nothing here. More money for the moderator, maybe, but you’re kind of a pathetic, hate-fueled lot.

You must be proud of defending drunk drivers who kill people?

PP isn’t defending the kid. No one is.

Ok, I should have said “excusing the behavior of” rather than defending. Lots of posts telling us that it’s normal for kids to drive this fast and drink and drive and this was just a dumb accident.

That’s not excusing his behavior at all. It was putting it into context.
His actions were wrong and he should be punished appropriately.

There was an 18-year-old driver from Arlington who struck and killed a woman near W-L in 2011 and even though he was 18 and charged as an adult he still got a one-year suspended sentence and apparently never served a day in jail or prison.

https://www.arlnow.com/2011/09/20/teen-pleads-to-reckless-driving-in-fatal-crash/

The punishment is the Meade case was consistent with other juvenile offenses. The prosecutor and the judge followed the law and relevant precedent.

They weren’t drunk in the 2011 crash. Quit pretending they’re equivalent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 22 pages and the rage mongerers likely are neither going to get the sentence in this case changed nor get the public officials who did their jobs with a respect for the law unseated.

You must be proud of all the time you could have spent with your own families raging for nothing here. More money for the moderator, maybe, but you’re kind of a pathetic, hate-fueled lot.

This is a local forum and many posters here know the families involved or live in the community/travel the road this accident happened on. So this is an incident of local public interest. 22 pages is not even that many for a topic like this, especially considering how many trivial topics get discussed for well over 22 pages. I have no idea why you’re so upset about people discussing this topic and feeling negatively toward someone who made a series of poor choices that resulted in an innocent teenager being killed. Why do you care so much, and you know what they say about glass houses in accusing other people of wasting time.

For how personally you are invested in the negative comments, I have to guess you are somehow related to the defendant’s family or you yourself (or your kids) engage in this sort of reckless behavior, which you’re insistent on normalizing. Or you’re a totally bizarre third party hellbent on criticizing anyone who disagrees with you with personal insults over any sort of coherent discussion.

If you think this discussion is so “pathetic” then why in the world are you a part of it?

You have little imagination, or just look for continued pretexts to engage in hate speech here.

Some of us believe strongly in the principle that the law properly treats juveniles differently than adults, and that those who try to undermine that principle do not deserve to rant for days at end without being challenged for the principle they do not respect. Conversely, it means that we stand up for elected officials for Parisa who respect that principle, and object when others try to suggest they are unfit for others.

It does not mean we are related to the defendant's family, that we or our kids engage or have engaged in reckless behavior, or seek to "normalize" reckless behavior. But it's not surprising that you have so little respect for anyone who'd stand in your way of attacking Parisa and other officials properly discharging their duties, doxxing the other teen's family on multiple occasions, and otherwise reveling in reliving a horrific accident that you might suggest otherwise.

Finally, I suspect that some posters likely have ties to the same Arlington diocese as the victim's family, and believe their words to be supportive, yet they are behaving in ways are profoundly un-Christian. Before you post more hateful content, perhaps reflect on the following:

"Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you." Colossians 3:13

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." Luke 6:37

"Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you." Ephesians 4:31-32

"For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." Matthew 6:14-15

"And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.” Mark 11:25

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 22 pages and the rage mongerers likely are neither going to get the sentence in this case changed nor get the public officials who did their jobs with a respect for the law unseated.

You must be proud of all the time you could have spent with your own families raging for nothing here. More money for the moderator, maybe, but you’re kind of a pathetic, hate-fueled lot.

This is a local forum and many posters here know the families involved or live in the community/travel the road this accident happened on. So this is an incident of local public interest. 22 pages is not even that many for a topic like this, especially considering how many trivial topics get discussed for well over 22 pages. I have no idea why you’re so upset about people discussing this topic and feeling negatively toward someone who made a series of poor choices that resulted in an innocent teenager being killed. Why do you care so much, and you know what they say about glass houses in accusing other people of wasting time.

For how personally you are invested in the negative comments, I have to guess you are somehow related to the defendant’s family or you yourself (or your kids) engage in this sort of reckless behavior, which you’re insistent on normalizing. Or you’re a totally bizarre third party hellbent on criticizing anyone who disagrees with you with personal insults over any sort of coherent discussion.

If you think this discussion is so “pathetic” then why in the world are you a part of it?

You have little imagination, or just look for continued pretexts to engage in hate speech here.

Some of us believe strongly in the principle that the law properly treats juveniles differently than adults, and that those who try to undermine that principle do not deserve to rant for days at end without being challenged for the principle they do not respect. Conversely, it means that we stand up for elected officials for Parisa who respect that principle, and object when others try to suggest they are unfit for others.

It does not mean we are related to the defendant's family, that we or our kids engage or have engaged in reckless behavior, or seek to "normalize" reckless behavior. But it's not surprising that you have so little respect for anyone who'd stand in your way of attacking Parisa and other officials properly discharging their duties, doxxing the other teen's family on multiple occasions, and otherwise reveling in reliving a horrific accident that you might suggest otherwise.

Finally, I suspect that some posters likely have ties to the same Arlington diocese as the victim's family, and believe their words to be supportive, yet they are behaving in ways are profoundly un-Christian. Before you post more hateful content, perhaps reflect on the following:

"Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you." Colossians 3:13

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." Luke 6:37

"Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you." Ephesians 4:31-32

"For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." Matthew 6:14-15

"And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.” Mark 11:25

You are absurd. Legal jeopardy and moral culpability are different.

[Anonymous]

I see we’re now quoting scripture to try to deter comments supportive of the victim’s family. Curious where this could possibly go next.

[Anonymous]

I am supportive of the victims family and critical of the drunk driving teen and hisfamily

I believe that the offendor was rightly tried as a juvenile

I believe that the sentencing was a joke. One year and that too and in his own house? Come on!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see we’re now quoting scripture to try to deter comments supportive of the victim’s family. Curious where this could possibly go next.

The killer’s supporters are really going to weird ends now. Apparently criticizing public officials is “hate speech” and the poster is ignoring the fact that the rule of law they claim to respect does allow for juveniles to be charged as adults in some situations, so it’s not the bright line rule they claim it to be. It’s a gray area subject to reasonable debate, but that poster is being obtuse. Also, while the defendant got off easy in the court of law, the court of public opinion doesn’t have to forgive so quickly. It’s unreasonable to think most people are going to think kindly in regards to someone who just killed an innocent teenager just 6 months ago.

And you know what isn’t very Christianly — mowing someone down with a 3,000 lb vehicle at close to 100 mph while drunk and high, nor being the person who tried to explain such heinous behavior away as merely routine juvenile risk taking. So spare me the holier than thou garbage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see we’re now quoting scripture to try to deter comments supportive of the victim’s family. Curious where this could possibly go next.

The killer’s supporters are really going to weird ends now. Apparently criticizing public officials is “hate speech” and the poster is ignoring the fact that the rule of law they claim to respect does allow for juveniles to be charged as adults in some situations, so it’s not the bright line rule they claim it to be. It’s a gray area subject to reasonable debate, but that poster is being obtuse. Also, while the defendant got off easy in the court of law, the court of public opinion doesn’t have to forgive so quickly. It’s unreasonable to think most people are going to think kindly in regards to someone who just killed an innocent teenager just 6 months ago.

And you know what isn’t very Christianly — mowing someone down with a 3,000 lb vehicle at close to 100 mph while drunk and high, nor being the person who tried to explain such heinous behavior away as merely routine juvenile risk taking. So spare me the holier than thou garbage.

^ not you, direct PP. But the weird scripture person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see we’re now quoting scripture to try to deter comments supportive of the victim’s family. Curious where this could possibly go next.

The killer’s supporters are really going to weird ends now. Apparently criticizing public officials is “hate speech” and the poster is ignoring the fact that the rule of law they claim to respect does allow for juveniles to be charged as adults in some situations, so it’s not the bright line rule they claim it to be. It’s a gray area subject to reasonable debate, but that poster is being obtuse. Also, while the defendant got off easy in the court of law, the court of public opinion doesn’t have to forgive so quickly. It’s unreasonable to think most people are going to think kindly in regards to someone who just killed an innocent teenager just 6 months ago.

And you know what isn’t very Christianly — mowing someone down with a 3,000 lb vehicle at close to 100 mph while drunk and high, nor being the person who tried to explain such heinous behavior away as merely routine juvenile risk taking. So spare me the holier than thou garbage.

Yeah I think that if there’s a case for juveniles being charged as adults (rightly so IMO) then this is definitely such a situation - the juvenile was engaging in an activity reserved for adults (driving a vehicle) and the level of recklessness and general disregard for public safety meant that any reasonable person (even a much younger kid) would expect that people could get hurt from those actions.

[Anonymous]

The legal system has dealt with the juvenile offender as it saw appropriate and the scripture in the Christian faith calls for forgiveness.

Neither prevents hateful posters from spamming the internet and in some instances likely violating the law themselves, but they are doing that on their own. It’s not based on the law or in accordance with the Catholic faith. Just hate, vengeance, a desire for retribution, and no respect for the legal system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The legal system has dealt with the juvenile offender as it saw appropriate and the scripture in the Christian faith calls for forgiveness.

Neither prevents hateful posters from spamming the internet and in some instances likely violating the law themselves, but they are doing that on their own. It’s not based on the law or in accordance with the Catholic faith. Just hate, vengeance, a desire for retribution, and no respect for the legal system.

I’m so curious, what laws do you think posters are likely violating? You’re so pitiful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The legal system has dealt with the juvenile offender as it saw appropriate and the scripture in the Christian faith calls for forgiveness.

Neither prevents hateful posters from spamming the internet and in some instances likely violating the law themselves, but they are doing that on their own. It’s not based on the law or in accordance with the Catholic faith. Just hate, vengeance, a desire for retribution, and no respect for the legal system.

I’m so curious, what laws do you think posters are likely violating? You’re so pitiful.

Yep. No one has publicly named the kid although I appreciate all the clues so I was easily able to find the kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The legal system has dealt with the juvenile offender as it saw appropriate and the scripture in the Christian faith calls for forgiveness.

Neither prevents hateful posters from spamming the internet and in some instances likely violating the law themselves, but they are doing that on their own. It’s not based on the law or in accordance with the Catholic faith. Just hate, vengeance, a desire for retribution, and no respect for the legal system.

I’m so curious, what laws do you think posters are likely violating? You’re so pitiful.

Yep. No one has publicly named the kid although I appreciate all the clues so I was easily able to find the kid.

Not only that, while there are laws to keep court documents sealed regarding minors, and in some cases preventing the press from publishing names, there aren’t laws preventing private citizens from naming the defendant. I suspect Jeff would take it down if someone did post the name, but there would be no law violated by the poster.

This is just Bible thumping scare tactics, quoting scripture and fictional laws being violated.

[Anonymous]

The kids reporting that he is serving house arrest we’re talking about pre-sentencing. Some of them weren’t even aware that he had been sentenced

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 22 pages and the rage mongerers likely are neither going to get the sentence in this case changed nor get the public officials who did their jobs with a respect for the law unseated.

You must be proud of all the time you could have spent with your own families raging for nothing here. More money for the moderator, maybe, but you’re kind of a pathetic, hate-fueled lot.

You must be proud of defending drunk drivers who kill people?

PP isn’t defending the kid. No one is.

Ok, I should have said “excusing the behavior of” rather than defending. Lots of posts telling us that it’s normal for kids to drive this fast and drink and drive and this was just a dumb accident.

That’s not excusing his behavior at all. It was putting it into context.
His actions were wrong and he should be punished appropriately.

There was an 18-year-old driver from Arlington who struck and killed a woman near W-L in 2011 and even though he was 18 and charged as an adult he still got a one-year suspended sentence and apparently never served a day in jail or prison.

https://www.arlnow.com/2011/09/20/teen-pleads-to-reckless-driving-in-fatal-crash/

The punishment is the Meade case was consistent with other juvenile offenses. The prosecutor and the judge followed the law and relevant precedent.

They weren’t drunk in the 2011 crash. Quit pretending they’re equivalent.

you seriously can't believe the 2011 crash and the Meade killing have any similarity whatsoever.
2011 crash- 18 year old driver, around sunrise, traveling in the same direction as a pedestrian who may have been walking in the street? hit pedestrian and her dog- driver stayed on scene, was cooperative with police. Prosecutors took a plea for 1 year in jail suspended, giving talks on safe driving at drivers ed ceremony's etc. Prosecutors expressed great sympathy for victims family and stated that they were constrained by the lack of evidence in the case.

The 17 year old who killed Braylon Meade? driving 94 miles an hour on Old Dominion, applied brakes for 1/2 second, drunk and high, and lied to the police?? And rather than expressing sympathy- Parisa focused on the needs of the defendant.

I campaigned for Parisa when she was first elected. I'll be voting for Josh this time around. Not so much because of this individual case- in general I agree about not trying minors as adults- but because I don't think she has the competence to be the Prosecutor. She doesn't know how to manage her office, she doesn't know how to try a case, she doesn't see nuance, and she has spent a lot of time doing political stuff rather than managing her office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids reporting that he is serving house arrest we’re talking about pre-sentencing. Some of them weren’t even aware that he had been sentenced

Yeah, I don't think it's house arrest now.