Petition to bring back SROs

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Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.

https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.

The principals are one viewpoint, but they are not the only viewpoint. They are not even necessarily the most important viewpoint.

I'm curious whose viewpoint you think is the most important in this issue?

I, personally, don't think any one viewpoint is the most important.

So you think the unanimous support of all MCPS HS principals is barely relevant? These are the people who MCPS hired to lead, manage, and ensure the safety of students and staff. I'm shook.

No, I think it's one viewpoint, out of many viewpoints. I seriously doubt that you are shaken by this opinion of an anonymous rando on the internet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.

https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.

The principals are one viewpoint, but they are not the only viewpoint. They are not even necessarily the most important viewpoint.

I'm curious whose viewpoint you think is the most important in this issue?

I, personally, don't think any one viewpoint is the most important.

So you think the unanimous support of all MCPS HS principals is barely relevant? These are the people who MCPS hired to lead, manage, and ensure the safety of students and staff. I'm shook.

Seriously. The logic of some posters here, who are clearly MCPS central office employees or allies, is alarming and disheartening.

If you don't care about the safety and wellbeing of children, please don't work in education!!!

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

Cite the source - I mean all you anti SRO keep babbling and have no links like the for-SRO people do.

It’s in the pot -SRO post saying “PG county kept SROs.

Did you even read it? It showed 1/5 arrests were false arrests.

They kept 1 SRO /HS, changed their role and removed security guards that were given arrest record

It’s pretty close to the same as the MCPS CEO program

I don't even know why I'm responding to you. Are you high? There's nothing on that source that says these things. You are making sh*t up at this point out of desperation.

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

Cite the source - I mean all you anti SRO keep babbling and have no links like the for-SRO people do.

It’s in the pot -SRO post saying “PG county kept SROs.

Did you even read it? It showed 1/5 arrests were false arrests.

They kept 1 SRO /HS, changed their role and removed security guards that were given arrest record

It’s pretty close to the same as the MCPS CEO program

I don't even know why I'm responding to you. Are you high? There's nothing on that source that says these things. You are making sh*t up at this point out of desperation.

So you didn’t read the PG County plan nor have you read MCPS CEO plan.

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

Cite the source - I mean all you anti SRO keep babbling and have no links like the for-SRO people do.

It’s in the pot -SRO post saying “PG county kept SROs.

Did you even read it? It showed 1/5 arrests were false arrests.

They kept 1 SRO /HS, changed their role and removed security guards that were given arrest record

It’s pretty close to the same as the MCPS CEO program

I don't even know why I'm responding to you. Are you high? There's nothing on that source that says these things. You are making sh*t up at this point out of desperation.

So you didn’t read the PG County plan nor have you read MCPS CEO plan.

They are removing security officers NOT SROs. It is not anywhere near the MCPS CEO plan. SROs are IN the school building.

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

Cite the source - I mean all you anti SRO keep babbling and have no links like the for-SRO people do.

It’s in the pot -SRO post saying “PG county kept SROs.

Did you even read it? It showed 1/5 arrests were false arrests.

They kept 1 SRO /HS, changed their role and removed security guards that were given arrest record

It’s pretty close to the same as the MCPS CEO program

I don't even know why I'm responding to you. Are you high? There's nothing on that source that says these things. You are making sh*t up at this point out of desperation.

So you didn’t read the PG County plan nor have you read MCPS CEO plan.

They are removing security officers NOT SROs. It is not anywhere near the MCPS CEO plan. SROs are IN the school building.

Yes tgey removed security officers, 66 of them keeping 33 SROs.
CEOs are on school ground.
PG is getting rid of 66% of people with arrest powers.
PG is replacing those arresting powers and using the $ for “Invest in mental health programs and restorative approaches to student discipline to help dismantle the school-to-prison pipeline.”

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

Cite the source - I mean all you anti SRO keep babbling and have no links like the for-SRO people do.

It’s in the pot -SRO post saying “PG county kept SROs.

Did you even read it? It showed 1/5 arrests were false arrests.

They kept 1 SRO /HS, changed their role and removed security guards that were given arrest record

It’s pretty close to the same as the MCPS CEO program

I don't even know why I'm responding to you. Are you high? There's nothing on that source that says these things. You are making sh*t up at this point out of desperation.

So you didn’t read the PG County plan nor have you read MCPS CEO plan.

They are removing security officers NOT SROs. It is not anywhere near the MCPS CEO plan. SROs are IN the school building.

CEO’s are sworn officers.

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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll

So there were SROs at both the Parkland and Uvalde school massacres and they did nothing?

I'm curious about this too.

Since SROs aren't of any help in a school shooting what good are they exactly? Also, with all the police incidents like the recent one with Tyre Nichols is this really a good idea?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll

So there were SROs at both the Parkland and Uvalde school massacres and they did nothing?

I'm curious about this too.

Since SROs aren't of any help in a school shooting what good are they exactly? Also, with all the police incidents like the recent one with Tyre Nichols is this really a good idea?

dp.. security guards didn't stop the shootings, either. Should they be removed, too?

Some cops are terrible, that doesn't mean all cops are. A lot of the troublemaker kids in school are URM. Does that make all URM kids bad? Should we kick them all out?

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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll

So there were SROs at both the Parkland and Uvalde school massacres and they did nothing?

I'm curious about this too.

Since SROs aren't of any help in a school shooting what good are they exactly? Also, with all the police incidents like the recent one with Tyre Nichols is this really a good idea?

dp.. security guards didn't stop the shootings, either. Should they be removed, too?

Some cops are terrible, that doesn't mean all cops are. A lot of the troublemaker kids in school are URM. Does that make all URM kids bad? Should we kick them all out?

Security guards have not show to contribute to the negative affects on students. Except the ones on PG with arrest powers do they got rid of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll

So there were SROs at both the Parkland and Uvalde school massacres and they did nothing?

I'm curious about this too.

Since SROs aren't of any help in a school shooting what good are they exactly? Also, with all the police incidents like the recent one with Tyre Nichols is this really a good idea?

Until you are able to grasp the role of the SRO (hint- it's not to solely help with school shootings which there are very few here at MCPS) and understand the data AT MCPS, then please don't participate in this conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll

So there were SROs at both the Parkland and Uvalde school massacres and they did nothing?

I'm curious about this too.

Since SROs aren't of any help in a school shooting what good are they exactly? Also, with all the police incidents like the recent one with Tyre Nichols is this really a good idea?

Until you are able to grasp the role of the SRO (hint- it's not to solely help with school shootings which there are very few here at MCPS) and understand the data AT MCPS, then please don't participate in this conversation.

If they're looking for people to be more help, they'd be better off hiring counselors then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll

So there were SROs at both the Parkland and Uvalde school massacres and they did nothing?

I'm curious about this too.

Since SROs aren't of any help in a school shooting what good are they exactly? Also, with all the police incidents like the recent one with Tyre Nichols is this really a good idea?

The right hates public education and putting more armed guards there is aligned with their goal to turn schools into prisons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll

So there were SROs at both the Parkland and Uvalde school massacres and they did nothing?

I'm curious about this too.

Since SROs aren't of any help in a school shooting what good are they exactly? Also, with all the police incidents like the recent one with Tyre Nichols is this really a good idea?

dp.. security guards didn't stop the shootings, either. Should they be removed, too?

Some cops are terrible, that doesn't mean all cops are. A lot of the troublemaker kids in school are URM. Does that make all URM kids bad? Should we kick them all out?

Security guards have not show to contribute to the negative affects on students. Except the ones on PG with arrest powers do they got rid of them.

Kids who are violent and do drugs do have negative effects on kids. Why don't we kick them out?

Also, someone keeps posting about the security guard who had sex with a student on campus.. seems like we should kick them all out just in case they all have sex with the kids on campus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll

So there were SROs at both the Parkland and Uvalde school massacres and they did nothing?

I'm curious about this too.

Since SROs aren't of any help in a school shooting what good are they exactly? Also, with all the police incidents like the recent one with Tyre Nichols is this really a good idea?

dp.. security guards didn't stop the shootings, either. Should they be removed, too?

Some cops are terrible, that doesn't mean all cops are. A lot of the troublemaker kids in school are URM. Does that make all URM kids bad? Should we kick them all out?

Security guards have not show to contribute to the negative affects on students. Except the ones on PG with arrest powers do they got rid of them.

Kids who are violent and do drugs do have negative effects on kids. Why don't we kick them out?

Also, someone keeps posting about the security guard who had sex with a student on campus.. seems like we should kick them all out just in case they all have sex with the kids on campus.

Kids who are violent and doing drugs, get prosecuted by the police on felony charges and do end up elsewhere. MCPS isn't running a parallel justice system. We already have that.