Petition to bring back SROs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.

https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.

The principals are one viewpoint, but they are not the only viewpoint. They are not even necessarily the most important viewpoint.

I'm curious whose viewpoint you think is the most important in this issue?

I, personally, don't think any one viewpoint is the most important.

Well that sounds like a terrible way to make policy decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

[Anonymous]

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.[/quote

So there were SROs at both the Parkland and Uvalde school massacres and they did nothing?

I'm curious about this too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.

https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.

The principals are one viewpoint, but they are not the only viewpoint. They are not even necessarily the most important viewpoint.

I'm curious whose viewpoint you think is the most important in this issue?

I, personally, don't think any one viewpoint is the most important.

Well that sounds like a terrible way to make policy decisions.

You think policy decisions should be made by listening to ONE point of view?

Or did you misread? Or did I misread your response?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

The pandemic happened, and crime and violence are up.
TikTok became popular, and crime and violence are up.
The January 6 insurrection happened, and crime and violence are up.
Atmospheric CO2 hit 412.5 ppm, and crime and violence are up.

You forgot to include what you thought the solution might be, as was asked of you.

Have you read the new plan?

What new plan? If you're talking about Montgomery Goes Purple, it specifically doesn't address safety/security and discipline.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

Shhh stop using facts! Don't tell people this because it weakens my pro SRO argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.

https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.

The principals are one viewpoint, but they are not the only viewpoint. They are not even necessarily the most important viewpoint.

I'm curious whose viewpoint you think is the most important in this issue?

I, personally, don't think any one viewpoint is the most important.

Well that sounds like a terrible way to make policy decisions.

You think policy decisions should be made by listening to ONE point of view?

Or did you misread? Or did I misread your response?

No. You said principals' viewpoint isn't necessarily the most important viewpoint to consider on this issue, and I asked whose viewpoint you deemed to be most important, and you said no one.

When evaluating a policy, I don't think its impacts or harms are equally felt by all and that it's important to make a determination about who is most impacted, and therefore whose viewpoint should be prioritized or weighted compared to others. That doesn't, however, mean that's the only viewpoint that is considered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.

https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.

The principals are one viewpoint, but they are not the only viewpoint. They are not even necessarily the most important viewpoint.

I'm curious whose viewpoint you think is the most important in this issue?

I, personally, don't think any one viewpoint is the most important.

So you think the unanimous support of all MCPS HS principals is barely relevant? These are the people who MCPS hired to lead, manage, and ensure the safety of students and staff. I'm shook.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

Cite the source - I mean all you anti SRO keep babbling and have no links like the for-SRO people do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.

https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.

The principals are one viewpoint, but they are not the only viewpoint. They are not even necessarily the most important viewpoint.

I'm curious whose viewpoint you think is the most important in this issue?

I, personally, don't think any one viewpoint is the most important.

So you think the unanimous support of all MCPS HS principals is barely relevant? These are the people who MCPS hired to lead, manage, and ensure the safety of students and staff. I'm shook.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

Security guards and counselors are very different jobs and not equal. They need both. Counselors are not going to handle security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

Cite the source - I mean all you anti SRO keep babbling and have no links like the for-SRO people do.

It’s in the pot -SRO post saying “PG county kept SROs.

Did you even read it? It showed 1/5 arrests were false arrests.

They kept 1 SRO /HS, changed their role and removed security guards that were given arrest record

It’s pretty close to the same as the MCPS CEO program

[Anonymous]

Pro not pot

[Anonymous]

Ugh arrest powers not arrest records

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.

Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.

SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.

Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.

No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.

Have you read the new plan?
Have you read the suggestions in this thread.

Do you know PG county fired 100+ security personnel and are hiring counselors?

did you know that Elrich wanted 50 counselors to be hired in MCPS in lieu of SROs but they could barely get half?