Shen Yun warning

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

Ok, Trumphumper. You get off on that, right? Anything to own the libs?

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

Ok, Trumphumper. You get off on that, right? Anything to own the libs?

See - you’re seething. Why are you so filled with rage?

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

You are confusing posters.

I’m not a researcher. I’m just a regular KC subscriber who expects the descriptions to accurately represent the performances.

The description is accurate. You just disagree with it.

The description is not accurate.

Where does this mention anything about fundamentalist propaganda?
“ SHEN YUN’S unique artistic vision expands theatrical experience into a multi-dimensional, inspiring journey through one of humanity’s greatest treasures—the five millennia of traditional Chinese culture.
This epic production immerses you in stories reaching back to the most distant past. You’ll explore realms even beyond our visible world. Featuring one of the world’s oldest art forms— classical Chinese dance—along with patented scenographic effects and all-original orchestral works, Shen Yun opens a portal to a civilization of enchanting beauty and enlightening wisdom.
Traditional Chinese culture—with its profoundly optimistic worldview and deep spiritual roots— was displaced by communism in China. Today, only the New York–based Shen Yun is keeping this precious heritage alive on stage. And it’s an experience that will take your breath away.”



It’s very telling that they NO NOT include an accurate description. Because they know most people wouldn’t go see it. They can only get an audience by misleading advertising.

Round and round you go. You’re still wrong and bitter you didn’t read reviews.

So you don’t think TKC should be transparent about this production?

Nope. I think you need to take responsibility for your mistake and move on.

I haven’t made any mistakes.

I am just disappointed that TKC isn’t forthcoming in their description. It definitely diminishes my opinion of TKC. I would like them to update their website/materials to more accurately portray this show. Then whoever wants to see fundamentalist propaganda can go see it.

But I guess they can’t be transparent and still get paying customers. Guess it isn’t the first time that religious people have used shady tactics to push propaganda.

You did. You’ve already admitted it. “It was a mistake to just skim the results without reading something more in-depth about the show (like the New Yorker piece). I never thought that Kennedy Center would put such a crap on one of its stages.”

You’ve done nothing but complain in the two threads you’ve created. If you want the Kennedy Center to update their website, then contact them directly. Whining over and over here is not going to get the Kennedy Center to update their website.

You are confusing posters. That wasn’t me. I haven’t started any threads and I haven’t made any mistakes.

Why are you trying to silence people? You don’t think that people should be aware of these shady tactics by religious fundamentalists?

It’s very reasonable to expect that TKC would provide accurate descriptions of its performances. And it’s also reasonable to expect a certain level of quality for any performances held there.

Nah. You’re the OP of this thread. It’s quite clear.

I’ve posted on this thread earlier but I’m not OP. Feel free to ask Jeff.

I’m a KC subscriber who is put off by these shady tactics. It really diminishes my opinion of TKC.

So what have you said to the Kennedy Center?

Same thing I say here. That I’m disappointed that they host this show and more importantly that they aren’t being transparent about the content.

Remind me again what all the posts here are doing to change the KC marketing?

Why do you think this thread would change the marketing?

OP posted this as a PSA to potential viewers.

Surprisingly, some posters are vigorously defending these sketchy tactics. Guess they are into propaganda?

So it’s been posted. And OP is repeatedly posting complaining. How does posting here change their issue with the KC? Read the comments. Over and over they are complaining that the KC isn’t clear in their marketing. So again - how does constantly complaining here change the KC marketing approach?

Not sure why you think that my goal on this thread is to change TKC marketing practices. I have no idea if people working for TKC read this forum. I did complain about TKC hosting a fundamentalist religious show advertised as ancient Chinese cultural experience. My goal over here is to raise awareness among the people reading this forum. Many of them will share what they learn with friends and family.

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

Ok, Trumphumper. You get off on that, right? Anything to own the libs?

See - you’re seething. Why are you so filled with rage?

So you get some twisted satisfaction thinking that you irritate people?

Are you in a cult yourself? That sounds fcked up.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

NP: I do. If I’m going to see a play, or dance performance, I look up reviews. If I’m going to hear music, I look up reviews and see if there are videos up on YouTube. Something would have to spark my interest before I’d order the tickets, so it would be on me if I decided to order tickets for a performance based on zero information.

The OP apparently tried Google, so I can only encourage them to realize that if I had the kinds of concerns that the OP does, even a cursory glance at the most easily found information would have nudged me to dig a little deeper to determine what all of the readily available to the point of being in-your-face references to things like “divine beings dancing” might mean. The OP “doesn’t want to let it go.” I’m not really sure what that means. Do they want to warn others —who, like them, are easily stunned and fail to do adequate research? Get a refund for the tickets they bought without knowing what they were buying? Blame the Kennedy Center for not screening their wide range of varied offerings according to the OP’s personal and idiosyncratic preferences? Something else?

The KC descriptions/videos are sufficient for every show I’ve seen.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description? What’s the issue with wanting that?

I told you what I would do. If, according to you, the KC descriptions are “sufficient for every show you’ve seen” — then I’d guess that the descriptions of this show are sufficient for the vast majority of people who go to see the show. It’s on you, if you have a particular idiosyncratic concern, to do whatever research you feel you need to do. It’s not up to the KC to magically provide what you personally would consider an “accurate description “— because of your personal concerns. The “issue with wanting that” is that you seem to expect something magically tailored to your particular needs.
tldr: They did their bit.

Clearly the description isn’t sufficient which is why this we have this thread. This show is an anomaly.

I’m thinking that the OP —or at least their expectation— is the anomaly. The show has been to the area before, possibly even at the Kennedy Center. If multiple people felt the description was inadequate and brought this to the attention of KC staff, my guess is that it would have been addressed by now, and the materials would have been changed to reflect that.

Or it was a business decision to not change it because if they did they wouldn’t fill as many seats.

Do you have any evidence at all that other people are either as displeased as the OP, or as likely to forego even the most basic research for tickets they are purchasing? It really isn’t a good “business decision “ to bring in a performance THAT HAS BEEN IN THE AREA MANY TIMES BEFORE if people not only dislike it but feel somehow deceived, so kind of an unlikely strategy for a venue as experienced as the Kennedy Center. It’s far more likely that the OP is the anomaly.

Most people wouldn’t want to see religious propaganda pushed by Trumphumpers.

So, no evidence beyond your own opinion. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

Ok, Trumphumper. You get off on that, right? Anything to own the libs?

See - you’re seething. Why are you so filled with rage?

So you get some twisted satisfaction thinking that you irritate people?

Are you in a cult yourself? That sounds fcked up.

Keep on raging. Great for your heart health!

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

You are confusing posters.

I’m not a researcher. I’m just a regular KC subscriber who expects the descriptions to accurately represent the performances.

The description is accurate. You just disagree with it.

The description is not accurate.

Where does this mention anything about fundamentalist propaganda?
“ SHEN YUN’S unique artistic vision expands theatrical experience into a multi-dimensional, inspiring journey through one of humanity’s greatest treasures—the five millennia of traditional Chinese culture.
This epic production immerses you in stories reaching back to the most distant past. You’ll explore realms even beyond our visible world. Featuring one of the world’s oldest art forms— classical Chinese dance—along with patented scenographic effects and all-original orchestral works, Shen Yun opens a portal to a civilization of enchanting beauty and enlightening wisdom.
Traditional Chinese culture—with its profoundly optimistic worldview and deep spiritual roots— was displaced by communism in China. Today, only the New York–based Shen Yun is keeping this precious heritage alive on stage. And it’s an experience that will take your breath away.”



It’s very telling that they NO NOT include an accurate description. Because they know most people wouldn’t go see it. They can only get an audience by misleading advertising.

Round and round you go. You’re still wrong and bitter you didn’t read reviews.

So you don’t think TKC should be transparent about this production?

Nope. I think you need to take responsibility for your mistake and move on.

I haven’t made any mistakes.

I am just disappointed that TKC isn’t forthcoming in their description. It definitely diminishes my opinion of TKC. I would like them to update their website/materials to more accurately portray this show. Then whoever wants to see fundamentalist propaganda can go see it.

But I guess they can’t be transparent and still get paying customers. Guess it isn’t the first time that religious people have used shady tactics to push propaganda.

You did. You’ve already admitted it. “It was a mistake to just skim the results without reading something more in-depth about the show (like the New Yorker piece). I never thought that Kennedy Center would put such a crap on one of its stages.”

You’ve done nothing but complain in the two threads you’ve created. If you want the Kennedy Center to update their website, then contact them directly. Whining over and over here is not going to get the Kennedy Center to update their website.

You are confusing posters. That wasn’t me. I haven’t started any threads and I haven’t made any mistakes.

Why are you trying to silence people? You don’t think that people should be aware of these shady tactics by religious fundamentalists?

It’s very reasonable to expect that TKC would provide accurate descriptions of its performances. And it’s also reasonable to expect a certain level of quality for any performances held there.

Nah. You’re the OP of this thread. It’s quite clear.

I’ve posted on this thread earlier but I’m not OP. Feel free to ask Jeff.

I’m a KC subscriber who is put off by these shady tactics. It really diminishes my opinion of TKC.

So what have you said to the Kennedy Center?

Same thing I say here. That I’m disappointed that they host this show and more importantly that they aren’t being transparent about the content.

Remind me again what all the posts here are doing to change the KC marketing?

Why do you think this thread would change the marketing?

OP posted this as a PSA to potential viewers.

Surprisingly, some posters are vigorously defending these sketchy tactics. Guess they are into propaganda?

So it’s been posted. And OP is repeatedly posting complaining. How does posting here change their issue with the KC? Read the comments. Over and over they are complaining that the KC isn’t clear in their marketing. So again - how does constantly complaining here change the KC marketing approach?

Seems like you’re the only one here expecting this thread to change the marketing.

It doesn’t look like OP has posted recently. Some twit made a snarky Pelosi comment so it got bumped again.

Any thoughts on why some posters are vigorously defending this or trying to shut down discussion? Very odd.

I think what’s really odd is the poster unable to accept that they didn’t bother to research or read reviews about the event they were going to see. And posting over and over trying to blame the Kennedy Center. That’s very odd.

They advertise aggressively both online and by mail. The short movies I saw online were well-made, the colors were vibrant, and the dancers were skilled. I didn't find any reviews on TKC website and Shen Yun website has only have promotional materials (no real reviews). I am able to accept that my research was not adequate. There might be other people who do not have the time to research the show. Maybe some of them stumble on this thread and learn about the cult they end up supporting without even knowing.

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

Ok, Trumphumper. You get off on that, right? Anything to own the libs?

See - you’re seething. Why are you so filled with rage?

So you get some twisted satisfaction thinking that you irritate people?

Are you in a cult yourself? That sounds fcked up.

Keep on raging. Great for your heart health!

Sicko

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

NP: I do. If I’m going to see a play, or dance performance, I look up reviews. If I’m going to hear music, I look up reviews and see if there are videos up on YouTube. Something would have to spark my interest before I’d order the tickets, so it would be on me if I decided to order tickets for a performance based on zero information.

The OP apparently tried Google, so I can only encourage them to realize that if I had the kinds of concerns that the OP does, even a cursory glance at the most easily found information would have nudged me to dig a little deeper to determine what all of the readily available to the point of being in-your-face references to things like “divine beings dancing” might mean. The OP “doesn’t want to let it go.” I’m not really sure what that means. Do they want to warn others —who, like them, are easily stunned and fail to do adequate research? Get a refund for the tickets they bought without knowing what they were buying? Blame the Kennedy Center for not screening their wide range of varied offerings according to the OP’s personal and idiosyncratic preferences? Something else?

The KC descriptions/videos are sufficient for every show I’ve seen.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description? What’s the issue with wanting that?

I told you what I would do. If, according to you, the KC descriptions are “sufficient for every show you’ve seen” — then I’d guess that the descriptions of this show are sufficient for the vast majority of people who go to see the show. It’s on you, if you have a particular idiosyncratic concern, to do whatever research you feel you need to do. It’s not up to the KC to magically provide what you personally would consider an “accurate description “— because of your personal concerns. The “issue with wanting that” is that you seem to expect something magically tailored to your particular needs.
tldr: They did their bit.

Clearly the description isn’t sufficient which is why this we have this thread. This show is an anomaly.

I’m thinking that the OP —or at least their expectation— is the anomaly. The show has been to the area before, possibly even at the Kennedy Center. If multiple people felt the description was inadequate and brought this to the attention of KC staff, my guess is that it would have been addressed by now, and the materials would have been changed to reflect that.

Or it was a business decision to not change it because if they did they wouldn’t fill as many seats.

Do you have any evidence at all that other people are either as displeased as the OP, or as likely to forego even the most basic research for tickets they are purchasing? It really isn’t a good “business decision “ to bring in a performance THAT HAS BEEN IN THE AREA MANY TIMES BEFORE if people not only dislike it but feel somehow deceived, so kind of an unlikely strategy for a venue as experienced as the Kennedy Center. It’s far more likely that the OP is the anomaly.

Most people wouldn’t want to see religious propaganda pushed by Trumphumpers.

So, no evidence beyond your own opinion. Got it.

81M+ people rejected RWNJs in 2020.

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

Ok, Trumphumper. You get off on that, right? Anything to own the libs?

See - you’re seething. Why are you so filled with rage?

So you get some twisted satisfaction thinking that you irritate people?

Are you in a cult yourself? That sounds fcked up.

Keep on raging. Great for your heart health!

Sicko

Still angry I see.

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

Ok, Trumphumper. You get off on that, right? Anything to own the libs?

See - you’re seething. Why are you so filled with rage?

So you get some twisted satisfaction thinking that you irritate people?

Are you in a cult yourself? That sounds fcked up.

Keep on raging. Great for your heart health!

Sicko

Still angry I see.

Not angry at all. Just exploiting the troll for bumps.

Tell us more about why you troll.

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

Ok, Trumphumper. You get off on that, right? Anything to own the libs?

See - you’re seething. Why are you so filled with rage?

So you get some twisted satisfaction thinking that you irritate people?

Are you in a cult yourself? That sounds fcked up.

Keep on raging. Great for your heart health!

Sicko

Still angry I see.

Not angry at all. Just exploiting the troll for bumps.

Tell us more about why you troll.

Your name calling says otherwise. And funny you ask about trolling since you’re now trolling. I love it!! 🤗

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

Ok, Trumphumper. You get off on that, right? Anything to own the libs?

See - you’re seething. Why are you so filled with rage?

So you get some twisted satisfaction thinking that you irritate people?

Are you in a cult yourself? That sounds fcked up.

Keep on raging. Great for your heart health!

Sicko

Still angry I see.

Not angry at all. Just exploiting the troll for bumps.

Tell us more about why you troll.

Your name calling says otherwise. And funny you ask about trolling since you’re now trolling. I love it!! 🤗

I’m just bumping for OP.

You don’t need to be angry to call people out for trolling.

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen the adds for years and I finally googled the name. Everything I read was positive and I decided to give it a shot. What can go wrong in a show presented in a prestigious cultural venue like Kennedy Center? Big mistake. Relatively early in the show you learn that "Between atheism and evolution, Satan lurks." Close to the end, they make sure to send the message again: "Atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit." As atheist and scientist, I was shocked that I ended up supporting a fundamentalist religious group, while the show is advertised as a Chinese cultural experience. I am not sure what options I have at this point, but I don't want to just let it go.

Seems like you are horrified that you were exposed to a different point of view, a different perspective, or a different set of beliefs. This raises the question as to how secure you are in your own beliefs. I could understand your stance if you later discovered that this was a fundraiser for invading forces in Eastern Europe, but exposure to a different set of beliefs is educational, not an endorsement.

Not really horrified, just pissed because I gave them money so they can keep spreading their fundamentalist religious propaganda. You should not be concerned about how comfortable I am with my own beliefs. However, your post raises the question of what you consider education. I wonder what you find educational about the information according to which "atheism and evolution are the Devil's deceit". This is the definition of religious propaganda with no educational value whatsoever. This is a fundraiser for a fundamentalist religious cult.

I’m glad you did. You’re repetitiveness here for weeks is obnoxious. It’s wonderful they got so under your skin your incapable of letting it go. That it cost you money is just the icing on the cake.

I have to be repetitive because new posters keep making the same (obnoxious) arguments. It looks like you got the main idea of this thread (and you don't enjoy it anymore), so feel free to move on to a different thread and never look back. It's a free country.

Nope. You could move on with your life. You want to keep bumping this thread over and over to whine, then others can comment and point that out that all you’re doing to whining. Free country and all.

My whining was informative for at least several people who decided to *SKIP* this show. And thanks to people commenting on the thread (including you), the thread gets bumped and others become aware of the scam. So thank you for not moving on with YOUR life.

Sorry for the double post - I had to make a correction.

I can’t hear you over the violin accompanying your whining.

OP created a helpful thread.

You’re the one whining.

Looks like this struck a nerve with you too.

LOL. Seems like you’re projecting. Can’t seem to let it go, huh?

You responded, so you can’t clearly. I’m just here to razz OP. Guess it’s working.

So you’re a troll. Got it.

I’m sure the OP is happy every time you bump this thread.

I see you’re still bothered. 🤗

I think it’s great.

I didn’t know it was a Trumphumper show until this thread so I think it’s useful info for many people.

Keep bumping.

OP at least takes it in stride. But you’re seething.

Ok, Trumphumper. You get off on that, right? Anything to own the libs?

See - you’re seething. Why are you so filled with rage?

So you get some twisted satisfaction thinking that you irritate people?

Are you in a cult yourself? That sounds fcked up.

Keep on raging. Great for your heart health!

Sicko

Still angry I see.

Not angry at all. Just exploiting the troll for bumps.

Tell us more about why you troll.

Your name calling says otherwise. And funny you ask about trolling since you’re now trolling. I love it!! 🤗

I’m just bumping for OP.

You don’t need to be angry to call people out for trolling.

Eh, like I said, name calling says otherwise. You just didn’t like your angriness getting pointed out. That’s ok, it’s since helped change your behavior.