Ivana Trump has died at 73

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Invitation only?

Remember when Ivanka and Jared showed up uninvited to John McCain’s funeral?

Former POTUS, security vetting, etc

????

I did not mention a former POTUS.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Vanessa looks good. Her hair just needs a trim, it’s a little unhealthy. It’s strange Tiffany Trump went. Ivana apparently hated Marla Maples.

I don’t think it’s strange that Tiffany attended the funeral. She wasn’t there for Ivana; she went as a gesture of love and support for her 3 half siblings who lost their mother.

Really? I don’t think so. Apparently she isn’t close to her half siblings. My guess is she went because everyone else went, and she doesn’t want to be excluded from family events.

It was invite only, so it’s not like her presence was unwelcome.

I suspect Ivanka keeps Tiffany involved. Ivanka mentioned how she persuaded daddy to give Tiff money and Ivanka had power as the golden child. Tiffany probably used that connection to her advantage. Now she doesn’t need the money but they keep in touch anyway.

Better to keep relatives close than have them pen negative books like Mary Trump did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading the nyt article posted above. To have multiple anecdotes about corporal punishment in a eulogy? Explains a lot… these kids were messed up on so many levels.

Watch the recent documentary, which is mostly 1-on- 1interviews with the 3 adult children. They all talk about their father never coming to any of their games or events as kids — if you wanted to see dad, you went where he was going (deals & wrestling matches, etc). The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.

I don't either. It is a pretty accurate description of my childhood.

My dad was extremely successful, military & government, and he never had time to attend our sporting events or school activities because he was always working. If we wanted to see him, we went to where he was. He always made time for us there. It was what it was. And it was what made him the respected and highly recognized man that he is today.

My (and apparently the Trump kids') experience was different from yours but it doesn't mean it was less good than yours. I would wager that I have a better and more healthy relationship with my dad than you did/do with yours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading the nyt article posted above. To have multiple anecdotes about corporal punishment in a eulogy? Explains a lot… these kids were messed up on so many levels.

Watch the recent documentary, which is mostly 1-on- 1interviews with the 3 adult children. They all talk about their father never coming to any of their games or events as kids — if you wanted to see dad, you went where he was going (deals & wrestling matches, etc). The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.

I don't either. It is a pretty accurate description of my childhood.

My dad was extremely successful, military & government, and he never had time to attend our sporting events or school activities because he was always working. If we wanted to see him, we went to where he was. He always made time for us there. It was what it was. And it was what made him the respected and highly recognized man that he is today.

My (and apparently the Trump kids') experience was different from yours but it doesn't mean it was less good than yours. I would wager that I have a better and more healthy relationship with my dad than you did/do with yours.

Curious why you felt the need to get defensive. I intentionally wrote that post as neutral - simply re-stating facts. But here you are betting that your dad is better than mine. Sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading the nyt article posted above. To have multiple anecdotes about corporal punishment in a eulogy? Explains a lot… these kids were messed up on so many levels.

Watch the recent documentary, which is mostly 1-on- 1interviews with the 3 adult children. They all talk about their father never coming to any of their games or events as kids — if you wanted to see dad, you went where he was going (deals & wrestling matches, etc). The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.

I don't either. It is a pretty accurate description of my childhood.

My dad was extremely successful, military & government, and he never had time to attend our sporting events or school activities because he was always working. If we wanted to see him, we went to where he was. He always made time for us there. It was what it was. And it was what made him the respected and highly recognized man that he is today.

My (and apparently the Trump kids') experience was different from yours but it doesn't mean it was less good than yours. I would wager that I have a better and more healthy relationship with my dad than you did/do with yours.

Curious why you felt the need to get defensive. I intentionally wrote that post as neutral - simply re-stating facts. But here you are betting that your dad is better than mine. Sad.

You don't see this statement (The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.) as judgmental? Sad. Actually, very sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading the nyt article posted above. To have multiple anecdotes about corporal punishment in a eulogy? Explains a lot… these kids were messed up on so many levels.

Watch the recent documentary, which is mostly 1-on- 1interviews with the 3 adult children. They all talk about their father never coming to any of their games or events as kids — if you wanted to see dad, you went where he was going (deals & wrestling matches, etc). The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.

I don't either. It is a pretty accurate description of my childhood.

My dad was extremely successful, military & government, and he never had time to attend our sporting events or school activities because he was always working. If we wanted to see him, we went to where he was. He always made time for us there. It was what it was. And it was what made him the respected and highly recognized man that he is today.

My (and apparently the Trump kids') experience was different from yours but it doesn't mean it was less good than yours. I would wager that I have a better and more healthy relationship with my dad than you did/do with yours.

Curious why you felt the need to get defensive. I intentionally wrote that post as neutral - simply re-stating facts. But here you are betting that your dad is better than mine. Sad.

You don't see this statement (The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.) as judgmental? Sad. Actually, very sad.

And I stand by my response. I fully believe that I have a healthier relationship with my dad than you do with yours. How do I know this? I know it because I am not judging him for the decisions that he made to be the best person, father and husband he could be. I recognize and respect his choices because I see the value that he produced for our family and our nation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why Tiffany or Barron were there. They had no interactions with this woman.

They were there to fill seats. There was desperation to make her look well-liked enough to have people there.

That is a truly horrible thing to say - and I detest Donald Trump

Divorce wrecks raw emotional havoc in children's lives AND Yet, Ivanka is kind to Tiffany, who attended out of support for her half-siblings

Donald Trump is a deeply flawed, destructive human being, but clearly SOMEONE whether it was the kids themselves, Ivana or all the mothers or maybe the tiny eetsy 1/4 ounce of decency Donald possesses- the siblings stepped up for THIS One

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading the nyt article posted above. To have multiple anecdotes about corporal punishment in a eulogy? Explains a lot… these kids were messed up on so many levels.

Watch the recent documentary, which is mostly 1-on- 1interviews with the 3 adult children. They all talk about their father never coming to any of their games or events as kids — if you wanted to see dad, you went where he was going (deals & wrestling matches, etc). The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.

I don't either. It is a pretty accurate description of my childhood.

My dad was extremely successful, military & government, and he never had time to attend our sporting events or school activities because he was always working. If we wanted to see him, we went to where he was. He always made time for us there. It was what it was. And it was what made him the respected and highly recognized man that he is today.

My (and apparently the Trump kids') experience was different from yours but it doesn't mean it was less good than yours. I would wager that I have a better and more healthy relationship with my dad than you did/do with yours.

Curious why you felt the need to get defensive. I intentionally wrote that post as neutral - simply re-stating facts. But here you are betting that your dad is better than mine. Sad.

You don't see this statement (The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.) as judgmental? Sad. Actually, very sad.

And I stand by my response. I fully believe that I have a healthier relationship with my dad than you do with yours. How do I know this? I know it because I am not judging him for the decisions that he made to be the best person, father and husband he could be. I recognize and respect his choices because I see the value that he produced for our family and our nation.

I’ll accept that you love your daddy and think he’d swell. You have absolutely to basis to draw any conclusions about relationships you know zero about. Such a thin reed really puts to shambles any credibility you might have had. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading the nyt article posted above. To have multiple anecdotes about corporal punishment in a eulogy? Explains a lot… these kids were messed up on so many levels.

Watch the recent documentary, which is mostly 1-on- 1interviews with the 3 adult children. They all talk about their father never coming to any of their games or events as kids — if you wanted to see dad, you went where he was going (deals & wrestling matches, etc). The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.

I don't either. It is a pretty accurate description of my childhood.

My dad was extremely successful, military & government, and he never had time to attend our sporting events or school activities because he was always working. If we wanted to see him, we went to where he was. He always made time for us there. It was what it was. And it was what made him the respected and highly recognized man that he is today.

My (and apparently the Trump kids') experience was different from yours but it doesn't mean it was less good than yours. I would wager that I have a better and more healthy relationship with my dad than you did/do with yours.

Curious why you felt the need to get defensive. I intentionally wrote that post as neutral - simply re-stating facts. But here you are betting that your dad is better than mine. Sad.

You don't see this statement (The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.) as judgmental? Sad. Actually, very sad.

Step back. If this were a legal brief, both sides could agree to the bolded statement as a stipulated fact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Vanessa looks good. Her hair just needs a trim, it’s a little unhealthy. It’s strange Tiffany Trump went. Ivana apparently hated Marla Maples.

I don’t think it’s strange that Tiffany attended the funeral. She wasn’t there for Ivana; she went as a gesture of love and support for her 3 half siblings who lost their mother.

Really? I don’t think so. Apparently she isn’t close to her half siblings. My guess is she went because everyone else went, and she doesn’t want to be excluded from family events.

It was invite only, so it’s not like her presence was unwelcome.

I suspect Ivanka keeps Tiffany involved. Ivanka mentioned how she persuaded daddy to give Tiff money and Ivanka had power as the golden child. Tiffany probably used that connection to her advantage. Now she doesn’t need the money but they keep in touch anyway.

Better to keep relatives close than have them pen negative books like Mary Trump did.

Ivanka is the best of them and you judgement of her ( suggesting her protectiveness of Tiffany was self-serving ) reflects badly on perhaps your own true core- Your's - not Ivanka's as it seems that's all your imagination can come up with

Instead, maybe consider that having seen her family wrecked and her sense of security upended by divorce , she likely would feel empathetic to Tiffany watching this little 4 year old girl go through the SAME Trauma she did a few years later

You know, part of healing yourself is being able to care for others- not " keeping her close so she won't write a book" - how callow of you, PP

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Anonymous wrote:The NY Times article made me sad - it seemed really clear to me that Donald Trump organized her funeral and invited a lot of people that were his friends, business associates, and political allies (Jeanine Pirro!!) and just a handful of Ivana's true friends. Like everything, this was a performance for and about him. Very sad.

And she is buried at his golf course. Sad!

From what I’ve read, Ivanka still held a torch for Donald. So, this is probably what she would have wanted. Plus, perhaps the kids will be buried there one day and she wants to be buried near them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading the nyt article posted above. To have multiple anecdotes about corporal punishment in a eulogy? Explains a lot… these kids were messed up on so many levels.

Watch the recent documentary, which is mostly 1-on- 1interviews with the 3 adult children. They all talk about their father never coming to any of their games or events as kids — if you wanted to see dad, you went where he was going (deals & wrestling matches, etc). The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.

I don't either. It is a pretty accurate description of my childhood.

My dad was extremely successful, military & government, and he never had time to attend our sporting events or school activities because he was always working. If we wanted to see him, we went to where he was. He always made time for us there. It was what it was. And it was what made him the respected and highly recognized man that he is today.

My (and apparently the Trump kids') experience was different from yours but it doesn't mean it was less good than yours. I would wager that I have a better and more healthy relationship with my dad than you did/do with yours.

Curious why you felt the need to get defensive. I intentionally wrote that post as neutral - simply re-stating facts. But here you are betting that your dad is better than mine. Sad.

You don't see this statement (The adult kids don’t see any harm caused by this dynamic.) as judgmental? Sad. Actually, very sad.

And I stand by my response. I fully believe that I have a healthier relationship with my dad than you do with yours. How do I know this? I know it because I am not judging him for the decisions that he made to be the best person, father and husband he could be. I recognize and respect his choices because I see the value that he produced for our family and our nation.

DP. This is all anonymous, so I have no idea who you and your father are. I do know who Donald Trump is and what he’s like as a person. I seriously doubt he could be a good father — but not because his kids only really spent time with him at work. Malignant narcissists are not good parents. Compulsive liars are not good parents. Morally bankrupt people are not good parents. Therefore, Trump is unlikely to be a good parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reading the nyt article posted above. To have multiple anecdotes about corporal punishment in a eulogy? Explains a lot… these kids were messed up on so many levels.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Vanessa looks good. Her hair just needs a trim, it’s a little unhealthy. It’s strange Tiffany Trump went. Ivana apparently hated Marla Maples.

I don’t think it’s strange that Tiffany attended the funeral. She wasn’t there for Ivana; she went as a gesture of love and support for her 3 half siblings who lost their mother.

Really? I don’t think so. Apparently she isn’t close to her half siblings. My guess is she went because everyone else went, and she doesn’t want to be excluded from family events.

It was invite only, so it’s not like her presence was unwelcome.

I suspect Ivanka keeps Tiffany involved. Ivanka mentioned how she persuaded daddy to give Tiff money and Ivanka had power as the golden child. Tiffany probably used that connection to her advantage. Now she doesn’t need the money but they keep in touch anyway.

Better to keep relatives close than have them pen negative books like Mary Trump did.

Ivanka is the best of them and you judgement of her ( suggesting her protectiveness of Tiffany was self-serving ) reflects badly on perhaps your own true core- Your's - not Ivanka's as it seems that's all your imagination can come up with

Instead, maybe consider that having seen her family wrecked and her sense of security upended by divorce , she likely would feel empathetic to Tiffany watching this little 4 year old girl go through the SAME Trauma she did a few years later

You know, part of healing yourself is being able to care for others- not " keeping her close so she won't write a book" - how callow of you, PP

Ivanka? Self serving? Gasp!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Cheater, The Mistress/Fiancée, the Ex-Wife

What is wrong with you? Can you not see the little girl crying in that picture and think for a minute, "Maybe I should just trying shutting up for once?" JFC.

You know that little girl isn’t reading DCUM, right?

I know that you are a callous jackass.