What the hell happened to JD Vance?

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Anonymous wrote:Looking out for average Americans:

“But Vance went against most in his party to support new funding for the Affordable Connectivity Program, which provided a monthly subsidy to low-income Americans to pay for internet service. That service was provided by companies including Charter, the parent of Spectrum News.”

“Before the program expired earlier this year, Vance was among just three Republicans in the Senate to co-sponsor renewal legislation.”

“Yes, the ACP program costs money,” Vance said in May. “But if you give people access to broadband and they're able to participate in telehealth, they save a lot of money on their health care costs. The government that sometimes pays for those health care expenses is saving a lot of money. That, of course, flows back to the consumers in the form of tax benefits.”


https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2024/07/19/jd-vance-senate-record#:~:text=As%20a%20freshman%20senator%20in,vetoed%20by%20President%20Joe%20Biden.


LOL, you do realize that he co-sponsored a bill. He is not the lead sponsor, he is not holding hearings, and he is not a member of the majority party. Without the Dems, there would be no such bill.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


You can't be serious, are you? He opposes any extant program or proposed policy that has any ameliorative effect on their lives. Cut Medicare/Social Security and these folks will not just be forgotten but dead.


DP. Why are you lying? From the GOP 2024 platform:

CHAPTER SIX: PROTECT SENIORS

Our Commitment:

President Trump has made absolutely clear that he will not cut one penny from Medicare or Social Security. American Citizens work hard their whole lives, contributing to Social Security and Medicare. These programs are promises to our Seniors, ensuring they can live their golden years with dignity. Republicans will protect these vital programs and ensure Economic Stability. We will work with our Great Seniors, in order to allow them to be active and healthy. We commit to safeguarding the future for our Seniors and all American families.

1. Protect Social Security

Social Security is a lifeline for millions of Retirees, yet corrupt politicians have robbed Social Security to fund their pet projects. Republicans will restore Economic Stability to ensure the long-term sustainability of Social Security.

2. Strengthen Medicare

Republicans will protect Medicare's finances from being financially crushed by the Democrat plan to add tens of millions of new illegal immigrants to the rolls of Medicare. We vow to strengthen Medicare for future generations.


https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform
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Anonymous wrote:Can Trump drop Vance at this point?


He should have just swallowed his pride and picked Nikki Haley for VP.


Absolutely.

The Vance pick is mystifying. It does nothing for the ticket or the Republican Party. Vance exudes incel vibes, a man who clearly hates women. He does nothing to bring new people into the Republican Party. The kind of people that like Vance and Ben Shapiro and Andrew Tate were already going to vote for Trump.

I'm guessing it was just over-confidence. Trump was on a good trajectory to easily win - Biden imploding at the debate, assassination attempt, more and more states becoming competitive. And now Vice President Harris will be the nominee. Suddenly, Trump looks like a moron for picking Vance. He is huge liability for the GOP. Definitely should have picked Haley.


+1. Dem, and let’s be honest. Rs should have chosen her over Trump as the nominee. Because if she were, Dems really would be done this cycle. She would have mopped the floor with Biden and made it impossible for subbing Harris in to be anything but downside.

So, so glad the Rs weren’t savvy enough to suck it and choose the qualified, attractive, articulate one.


Disagree. Trump could have picked Cookie Monster. It doesn’t matter. His base will still vote for him. The VP pick sways no one. The people that were planning to vote for him still will, just like the people that were planning to vote for Biden will vote for any cardboard cut out the Dems put on the ballot. Kamala’s VP pick also won’t move any votes. The independents are the votes to win, but those don’t come from the VP pick. They will come from the issues people ultimately decide are most important to them.


Agree, people really don't understand the Trump phenomenon. Trump is the vote getter; he doesn't need a VP for that. In his VP he wants fealty above all else and JD's political career would be nowhere without Trump''s blessing that saved him in his Senate race. He is beholden to Trump, will be Trump's attack dog and will willfully do anything Trump asks him to do because he owes a great deal of his political existence and ascent to Trump.


Again. Trumps base alone isn’t enough. Ask 2020 about that and then consider all the Gen Z who started voting since and all the Boomers who died. Mathematically, Cult Trump is large. But not 50% of the swing states large. He needs some independents. That’s what the VP pick did. Pence was great because he got the jittery traditional Republicans plus reassured Evangelics that the guy with no morals was okay, so they didn’t stay home. Without that, those 100k votes would have gone to HRC. Vance gets him no one outside his cult.


You do not understand Trump. Trump is the vote getter. Period. He is not going to stand another "traitor" like Pence. He was already making significant inroads with black voters and other demographics without having announced a Vice President. The VP will do nothing for him vote-wise. It is on him and on him alone. His VP will serve other purposes.


what purpose is this guy going to serve?

also, it's not only about getting votes. he could be taking away some votes trump is getting.


He is going to be his loyal attack dog who speaks well and jumps whenever Trump says "how high". He will have no ideas of his own and be completely beholden to Trump. What independent base does Vance have outside of Trump's political patronage? Additionally, if Trump wins he will hold the reins of the party probably until he dies. This is an audition for flag bearer who Trump will control even after he is out of office.


when trump is out of office (assuming he gets into the office) he will be 80+. he is not going to control anything for long.


Won't that go to Don Jr?


If our awful two major parties have any say in the matter, POTUS nominees will now be appointed by party leaders going forward. Disgusting.


She is the veep on the ticket that was elected in '20. She wasn't randomly selected from a random group of Dems. She has been affirmed by the delegates, who could say no if they so chose. If there were objections, then we would all know by now.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


You can't be serious, are you? He opposes any extant program or proposed policy that has any ameliorative effect on their lives. Cut Medicare/Social Security and these folks will not just be forgotten but dead.


DP. Why are you lying? From the GOP 2024 platform:

CHAPTER SIX: PROTECT SENIORS

Our Commitment:

President Trump has made absolutely clear that he will not cut one penny from Medicare or Social Security. American Citizens work hard their whole lives, contributing to Social Security and Medicare. These programs are promises to our Seniors, ensuring they can live their golden years with dignity. Republicans will protect these vital programs and ensure Economic Stability. We will work with our Great Seniors, in order to allow them to be active and healthy. We commit to safeguarding the future for our Seniors and all American families.

1. Protect Social Security

Social Security is a lifeline for millions of Retirees, yet corrupt politicians have robbed Social Security to fund their pet projects. Republicans will restore Economic Stability to ensure the long-term sustainability of Social Security.

2. Strengthen Medicare

Republicans will protect Medicare's finances from being financially crushed by the Democrat plan to add tens of millions of new illegal immigrants to the rolls of Medicare. We vow to strengthen Medicare for future generations.


https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform


Good lord. I have never read a more amateurly written screed. Pity Dolan can't stick to the script in his rallies and goes off doing weight-lifting exercises...
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Anonymous wrote:This slimy dork is an intel creation just like Obama. Literally the same Obama template with the never had a real job in his life, astroturfed memoir, to junior senator, to presidential election.


I'd take Obama or Vance over Trump or Biden any day. Competence does matter.


How is Biden incompetent? Name more than one debate.
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Anonymous wrote:Can Trump drop Vance at this point?


He should have just swallowed his pride and picked Nikki Haley for VP.


Absolutely.

The Vance pick is mystifying. It does nothing for the ticket or the Republican Party. Vance exudes incel vibes, a man who clearly hates women. He does nothing to bring new people into the Republican Party. The kind of people that like Vance and Ben Shapiro and Andrew Tate were already going to vote for Trump.

I'm guessing it was just over-confidence. Trump was on a good trajectory to easily win - Biden imploding at the debate, assassination attempt, more and more states becoming competitive. And now Vice President Harris will be the nominee. Suddenly, Trump looks like a moron for picking Vance. He is huge liability for the GOP. Definitely should have picked Haley.


+1. Dem, and let’s be honest. Rs should have chosen her over Trump as the nominee. Because if she were, Dems really would be done this cycle. She would have mopped the floor with Biden and made it impossible for subbing Harris in to be anything but downside.

So, so glad the Rs weren’t savvy enough to suck it and choose the qualified, attractive, articulate one.


Disagree. Trump could have picked Cookie Monster. It doesn’t matter. His base will still vote for him. The VP pick sways no one. The people that were planning to vote for him still will, just like the people that were planning to vote for Biden will vote for any cardboard cut out the Dems put on the ballot. Kamala’s VP pick also won’t move any votes. The independents are the votes to win, but those don’t come from the VP pick. They will come from the issues people ultimately decide are most important to them.


Agree, people really don't understand the Trump phenomenon. Trump is the vote getter; he doesn't need a VP for that. In his VP he wants fealty above all else and JD's political career would be nowhere without Trump''s blessing that saved him in his Senate race. He is beholden to Trump, will be Trump's attack dog and will willfully do anything Trump asks him to do because he owes a great deal of his political existence and ascent to Trump.


Again. Trumps base alone isn’t enough. Ask 2020 about that and then consider all the Gen Z who started voting since and all the Boomers who died. Mathematically, Cult Trump is large. But not 50% of the swing states large. He needs some independents. That’s what the VP pick did. Pence was great because he got the jittery traditional Republicans plus reassured Evangelics that the guy with no morals was okay, so they didn’t stay home. Without that, those 100k votes would have gone to HRC. Vance gets him no one outside his cult.


You do not understand Trump. Trump is the vote getter. Period. He is not going to stand another "traitor" like Pence. He was already making significant inroads with black voters and other demographics without having announced a Vice President. The VP will do nothing for him vote-wise. It is on him and on him alone. His VP will serve other purposes.


what purpose is this guy going to serve?

also, it's not only about getting votes. he could be taking away some votes trump is getting.


He is going to be his loyal attack dog who speaks well and jumps whenever Trump says "how high". He will have no ideas of his own and be completely beholden to Trump. What independent base does Vance have outside of Trump's political patronage? Additionally, if Trump wins he will hold the reins of the party probably until he dies. This is an audition for flag bearer who Trump will control even after he is out of office.


when trump is out of office (assuming he gets into the office) he will be 80+. he is not going to control anything for long.


Won't that go to Don Jr?


If our awful two major parties have any say in the matter, POTUS nominees will now be appointed by party leaders going forward. Disgusting.


She is the veep on the ticket that was elected in '20. She wasn't randomly selected from a random group of Dems. She has been affirmed by the delegates, who could say no if they so chose. If there were objections, then we would all know by now.


+1 This wasn't the normal process to be sure, but candidates aren't robots and Biden had health issues that he didn't foresee as significant as he clearly understands them to be now. Stop acting as if the sky is falling. This isn't as grave as January 6 where the Capitol was attacked and the President at the time supported an insurrection.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


Ah yes, let us all shed a tear for those forgotten Yale graduates who are so marginalized in our society.

Seriously. He hobnobs with tech bros, but he's part of the "forgotten"? hm. yea. ok.


And he and wife went from California residents to Del Ray, Arlington residents. The Ohio senator and his family never actually lived in Ohio. He hasn't been an Ohio resident since college over 15 years ago.


DP. Curious - did you really think no one would call you out on your lies? He absolutely has a home in Ohio and lives there when not here in Alexandria.

CINCINNATI — There has been an increase in security at the home of Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance since the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump, which happened Saturday at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/ohio/extra-security-at-home-of-ohio-sen-jd-vance-after-assassination-attempt-of-former-president-trump/95-4831853b-0ef1-4071-8598-78e9f2c68e54

Gov. Mike DeWine "approved" a request for security Saturday at 6:40 p.m., according to the governor's spokesperson, Dan Tierney. Vance lives in the Cincinnati area, so troopers are monitoring his home.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/politics/ohio-politics/oshp-providing-extra-security-for-vice-presidential-contender-j-d-vance-following-shooting-at-trump-rally
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


You can't be serious, are you? He opposes any extant program or proposed policy that has any ameliorative effect on their lives. Cut Medicare/Social Security and these folks will not just be forgotten but dead.


DP. Why are you lying? From the GOP 2024 platform:

CHAPTER SIX: PROTECT SENIORS

Our Commitment:

President Trump has made absolutely clear that he will not cut one penny from Medicare or Social Security. American Citizens work hard their whole lives, contributing to Social Security and Medicare. These programs are promises to our Seniors, ensuring they can live their golden years with dignity. Republicans will protect these vital programs and ensure Economic Stability. We will work with our Great Seniors, in order to allow them to be active and healthy. We commit to safeguarding the future for our Seniors and all American families.

1. Protect Social Security

Social Security is a lifeline for millions of Retirees, yet corrupt politicians have robbed Social Security to fund their pet projects. Republicans will restore Economic Stability to ensure the long-term sustainability of Social Security.

2. Strengthen Medicare

Republicans will protect Medicare's finances from being financially crushed by the Democrat plan to add tens of millions of new illegal immigrants to the rolls of Medicare. We vow to strengthen Medicare for future generations.


https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform


Good lord. I have never read a more amateurly written screed. Pity Dolan can't stick to the script in his rallies and goes off doing weight-lifting exercises...


So that's your response when caught lying? How unsurprising.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


You can't be serious, are you? He opposes any extant program or proposed policy that has any ameliorative effect on their lives. Cut Medicare/Social Security and these folks will not just be forgotten but dead.


DP. Why are you lying? From the GOP 2024 platform:

CHAPTER SIX: PROTECT SENIORS

Our Commitment:

President Trump has made absolutely clear that he will not cut one penny from Medicare or Social Security. American Citizens work hard their whole lives, contributing to Social Security and Medicare. These programs are promises to our Seniors, ensuring they can live their golden years with dignity. Republicans will protect these vital programs and ensure Economic Stability. We will work with our Great Seniors, in order to allow them to be active and healthy. We commit to safeguarding the future for our Seniors and all American families.

1. Protect Social Security

Social Security is a lifeline for millions of Retirees, yet corrupt politicians have robbed Social Security to fund their pet projects. Republicans will restore Economic Stability to ensure the long-term sustainability of Social Security.

2. Strengthen Medicare

Republicans will protect Medicare's finances from being financially crushed by the Democrat plan to add tens of millions of new illegal immigrants to the rolls of Medicare. We vow to strengthen Medicare for future generations.


https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform


LOL, including capitalizing "Retirees." The fact that they cannot name ONE thing they will do to restore "Economic Stability" is the tell that they have NO plans to do so save privatizing, which may be what their plan is to restore "Economic Stability."

And there is no "Democrat" plan (the use of the epithet is always the tell in their complete lack of seriousness) to add "tens of millions of new illegal immigrants" to Medicare. It's not happening now and there are no such plans. You can tell an idiot drafted this because folks in the demographic cohort of these immigrants would be added to Medicaid, not Medicare, IF this were to happen. But it's not even under discussion.

I feel so sad for any children of PP, because this demonstrates their utter paucity of critical thinking. But perhaps they are a cat person, so that might explain it.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


Ah yes, let us all shed a tear for those forgotten Yale graduates who are so marginalized in our society.

Seriously. He hobnobs with tech bros, but he's part of the "forgotten"? hm. yea. ok.


And he and wife went from California residents to Del Ray, Arlington residents. The Ohio senator and his family never actually lived in Ohio. He hasn't been an Ohio resident since college over 15 years ago.


DP. Curious - did you really think no one would call you out on your lies? He absolutely has a home in Ohio and lives there when not here in Alexandria.

CINCINNATI — There has been an increase in security at the home of Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance since the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump, which happened Saturday at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/ohio/extra-security-at-home-of-ohio-sen-jd-vance-after-assassination-attempt-of-former-president-trump/95-4831853b-0ef1-4071-8598-78e9f2c68e54

Gov. Mike DeWine "approved" a request for security Saturday at 6:40 p.m., according to the governor's spokesperson, Dan Tierney. Vance lives in the Cincinnati area, so troopers are monitoring his home.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/politics/ohio-politics/oshp-providing-extra-security-for-vice-presidential-contender-j-d-vance-following-shooting-at-trump-rally


Cool. Where have his kids been attending school?
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


Ah yes, let us all shed a tear for those forgotten Yale graduates who are so marginalized in our society.

Seriously. He hobnobs with tech bros, but he's part of the "forgotten"? hm. yea. ok.


And he and wife went from California residents to Del Ray, Arlington residents. The Ohio senator and his family never actually lived in Ohio. He hasn't been an Ohio resident since college over 15 years ago.


DP. Curious - did you really think no one would call you out on your lies? He absolutely has a home in Ohio and lives there when not here in Alexandria.

CINCINNATI — There has been an increase in security at the home of Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance since the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump, which happened Saturday at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/ohio/extra-security-at-home-of-ohio-sen-jd-vance-after-assassination-attempt-of-former-president-trump/95-4831853b-0ef1-4071-8598-78e9f2c68e54

Gov. Mike DeWine "approved" a request for security Saturday at 6:40 p.m., according to the governor's spokesperson, Dan Tierney. Vance lives in the Cincinnati area, so troopers are monitoring his home.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/politics/ohio-politics/oshp-providing-extra-security-for-vice-presidential-contender-j-d-vance-following-shooting-at-trump-rally


Do you think nobody on a DC-based forum knows where these grifters ACTUALLY reside? It's literally in the Post.

LGBTQ flags and quinoa: The liberal Va. enclave where J.D. Vance lives
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/07/16/jd-vance-alexandria-home/
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


Ah yes, let us all shed a tear for those forgotten Yale graduates who are so marginalized in our society.

Seriously. He hobnobs with tech bros, but he's part of the "forgotten"? hm. yea. ok.


And he and wife went from California residents to Del Ray, Arlington residents. The Ohio senator and his family never actually lived in Ohio. He hasn't been an Ohio resident since college over 15 years ago.


DP. Curious - did you really think no one would call you out on your lies? He absolutely has a home in Ohio and lives there when not here in Alexandria.

CINCINNATI — There has been an increase in security at the home of Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance since the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump, which happened Saturday at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/ohio/extra-security-at-home-of-ohio-sen-jd-vance-after-assassination-attempt-of-former-president-trump/95-4831853b-0ef1-4071-8598-78e9f2c68e54

Gov. Mike DeWine "approved" a request for security Saturday at 6:40 p.m., according to the governor's spokesperson, Dan Tierney. Vance lives in the Cincinnati area, so troopers are monitoring his home.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/politics/ohio-politics/oshp-providing-extra-security-for-vice-presidential-contender-j-d-vance-following-shooting-at-trump-rally


Do you think nobody on a DC-based forum knows where these grifters ACTUALLY reside? It's literally in the Post.

LGBTQ flags and quinoa: The liberal Va. enclave where J.D. Vance lives
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/07/16/jd-vance-alexandria-home/


Psst: they have homes in both VA and Ohio. I know that's probably hard for you to comprehend.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


Ah yes, let us all shed a tear for those forgotten Yale graduates who are so marginalized in our society.

Seriously. He hobnobs with tech bros, but he's part of the "forgotten"? hm. yea. ok.


And he and wife went from California residents to Del Ray, Arlington residents. The Ohio senator and his family never actually lived in Ohio. He hasn't been an Ohio resident since college over 15 years ago.


DP. Curious - did you really think no one would call you out on your lies? He absolutely has a home in Ohio and lives there when not here in Alexandria.

CINCINNATI — There has been an increase in security at the home of Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance since the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump, which happened Saturday at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/ohio/extra-security-at-home-of-ohio-sen-jd-vance-after-assassination-attempt-of-former-president-trump/95-4831853b-0ef1-4071-8598-78e9f2c68e54

Gov. Mike DeWine "approved" a request for security Saturday at 6:40 p.m., according to the governor's spokesperson, Dan Tierney. Vance lives in the Cincinnati area, so troopers are monitoring his home.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/politics/ohio-politics/oshp-providing-extra-security-for-vice-presidential-contender-j-d-vance-following-shooting-at-trump-rally


Cool. Where have his kids been attending school?


I have no idea, but like most members of Congress, his kids probably attend school in the DC area while their parent(s) work here. Are you unaware of how many senators and representatives live in the area and send their kids to our local schools while Congress is in session? I attended a high school in NoVA and a big group of classmates were sons and daughters of senators and reps.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


You can't be serious, are you? He opposes any extant program or proposed policy that has any ameliorative effect on their lives. Cut Medicare/Social Security and these folks will not just be forgotten but dead.


DP. Why are you lying? From the GOP 2024 platform:

CHAPTER SIX: PROTECT SENIORS

Our Commitment:

President Trump has made absolutely clear that he will not cut one penny from Medicare or Social Security. American Citizens work hard their whole lives, contributing to Social Security and Medicare. These programs are promises to our Seniors, ensuring they can live their golden years with dignity. Republicans will protect these vital programs and ensure Economic Stability. We will work with our Great Seniors, in order to allow them to be active and healthy. We commit to safeguarding the future for our Seniors and all American families.

1. Protect Social Security

Social Security is a lifeline for millions of Retirees, yet corrupt politicians have robbed Social Security to fund their pet projects. Republicans will restore Economic Stability to ensure the long-term sustainability of Social Security.

2. Strengthen Medicare

Republicans will protect Medicare's finances from being financially crushed by the Democrat plan to add tens of millions of new illegal immigrants to the rolls of Medicare. We vow to strengthen Medicare for future generations.


https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform


LOL, including capitalizing "Retirees." The fact that they cannot name ONE thing they will do to restore "Economic Stability" is the tell that they have NO plans to do so save privatizing, which may be what their plan is to restore "Economic Stability."

And there is no "Democrat" plan (the use of the epithet is always the tell in their complete lack of seriousness) to add "tens of millions of new illegal immigrants" to Medicare. It's not happening now and there are no such plans. You can tell an idiot drafted this because folks in the demographic cohort of these immigrants would be added to Medicaid, not Medicare, IF this were to happen. But it's not even under discussion.

I feel so sad for any children of PP, because this demonstrates their utter paucity of critical thinking. But perhaps they are a cat person, so that might explain it.


So again, you refuse to admit you were caught in a lie. Let me refresh your memory:
"He opposes any extant program or proposed policy that has any ameliorative effect on their lives. Cut Medicare/Social Security and these folks will not just be forgotten but dead."

But do keep repeating your lies about him cutting Medicare and throwing out the irrelevant Project 2025 when you think no one will call you on it. We'll just keep swatting your lies back, much like Whac-a-Mole.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, according to the KH thread, a VP just sits around in the background doing nothing, so I think JD can more than handle that. He’ll be a great VP and a voice for Americans who have been forgotten.


Ah yes, let us all shed a tear for those forgotten Yale graduates who are so marginalized in our society.

Seriously. He hobnobs with tech bros, but he's part of the "forgotten"? hm. yea. ok.


And he and wife went from California residents to Del Ray, Arlington residents. The Ohio senator and his family never actually lived in Ohio. He hasn't been an Ohio resident since college over 15 years ago.


DP. Curious - did you really think no one would call you out on your lies? He absolutely has a home in Ohio and lives there when not here in Alexandria.

CINCINNATI — There has been an increase in security at the home of Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance since the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump, which happened Saturday at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/ohio/extra-security-at-home-of-ohio-sen-jd-vance-after-assassination-attempt-of-former-president-trump/95-4831853b-0ef1-4071-8598-78e9f2c68e54

Gov. Mike DeWine "approved" a request for security Saturday at 6:40 p.m., according to the governor's spokesperson, Dan Tierney. Vance lives in the Cincinnati area, so troopers are monitoring his home.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/politics/ohio-politics/oshp-providing-extra-security-for-vice-presidential-contender-j-d-vance-following-shooting-at-trump-rally


Cool. Where have his kids been attending school?


I have no idea, but like most members of Congress, his kids probably attend school in the DC area while their parent(s) work here. Are you unaware of how many senators and representatives live in the area and send their kids to our local schools while Congress is in session? I attended a high school in NoVA and a big group of classmates were sons and daughters of senators and reps.


Yes but generally those senators are actually from the place they represent and lived there before they were elected. Most senators don’t have young kids which enables them to go back and forth more easily between locations. Or they do like Biden did and their kids are in school back home and they trudge back and forth. JD and Isha both worked in California before he was elected so they didn’t live in Ohio for more than a hot minute during the campaign. That’s pretty rare.
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