Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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Really, our MS and HS buildings and facilities are appalling when you go to Loudoun or PWC.

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Anonymous wrote:Really, our MS and HS buildings and facilities are appalling when you go to Loudoun or PWC.

The PWC football team seems to prefer our facilities at Hayfield.

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Anonymous wrote:When will we know if Edison decides to play? My son and his friends want to go to support Edison but its a drive for us. I dont want to schlep out there for nothing.

An out of the way family trip for this? Oy.

Many FCPS HS athletes are very invested in this story and were shocked and disappointed hat the school system backed the cheaters. The kids put in a ton of time into their sports and respect the game and the rules.

We live in one of the most fascinating areas on earth with tourists eager to see all that the DMV offers. And you choose to road trip to…a high school football game in a far, uninteresting part of Fairfax Cnty at an unaffiliated school. Likely so that you can boo some kids you don’t know as a family. Stay home, have some cocoa with the kids, and watch a movie instead.

Do you know any high school boys? LOL.

Do you? Do you think your “son and his friends” just want to drive far away to an unaffiliated school to just cheer on Edison and not boo and provoke Hayfield? Do better.

Personally, if it were my kids I think that would be a fine way for FCPS student athletes to express their disdain and disgust for FCPS's support of cheating.

A bunch of high school boys set out to boo and intimidate kids from another school at a game that already is filled with heated emotions. What could go wrong?

This is what FCPS wanted, right? Sporting events with no rules, integrity or sportsmanship.

Yes! In no way are the parents encouraging their teen boys to go to a game on the other side of town to boo other kids making a poor decision! Damned FCPS!

The parents are encouraging their children to reflect FCPS and Reid's values of poor sportsmanship, no integrity and no rules.

Exactly! Moms encouraging their teen sons to go out there to a school they’ve never visited in order to intimidate and be aggressive towards others is really going to stick it to Reid. Examples of great parenting. Great job.

That parent is really just following the example of the leader of our "world class school system", who just vehemently doubled-down to all parents on supporting cheating, lying, rule-breaking and poor sportsmanship. What could go wrong?

You’re so right and so sharp! We should absolutely expect aggression and violence as a response for bad leadership decisions on things like football line ups.

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If Dec 4 doesn’t keep them from moving forward, curious what will see from the fans for teams outside of FCPS. Perhaps t-shirts saying #HayfieldRecruits30? Assume Hayfield wearing “VHSL who?”

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My theory is that Reid/FCPS SB was advised they'd very likely be sued (and sued successfully!) if they tried to actually investigate the transfer students. Can you imagine the optics if the media got wind that the system removed or suspended "homeless" students, especially if they were all students of color? That then puts the school district in the unpleasant place of basically knowing that Hayfield is rotten but needing to stick to the original VHSL ruling to save face. When the VHSL changed its mind (for whatever reason), FCPS then had to double down on the defensiveness.

While I'm no Reid cheerleader and I pretty much despise the SB, I do feel for them in that this has been a no-win situation for them from the start.

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Anonymous wrote:When will we know if Edison decides to play? My son and his friends want to go to support Edison but its a drive for us. I dont want to schlep out there for nothing.

An out of the way family trip for this? Oy.

Many FCPS HS athletes are very invested in this story and were shocked and disappointed hat the school system backed the cheaters. The kids put in a ton of time into their sports and respect the game and the rules.

We live in one of the most fascinating areas on earth with tourists eager to see all that the DMV offers. And you choose to road trip to…a high school football game in a far, uninteresting part of Fairfax Cnty at an unaffiliated school. Likely so that you can boo some kids you don’t know as a family. Stay home, have some cocoa with the kids, and watch a movie instead.

Do you know any high school boys? LOL.

Do you? Do you think your “son and his friends” just want to drive far away to an unaffiliated school to just cheer on Edison and not boo and provoke Hayfield? Do better.

Personally, if it were my kids I think that would be a fine way for FCPS student athletes to express their disdain and disgust for FCPS's support of cheating.

That would be poor sportsmanship. It’s also poor sportsmanship to accuse someone of cheating

VHSL found Hayfield guilty of cheating so its not an accusation at this point: its a statement of fact.

Well they shouldn’t have, which is why the Commonwealth courts issued the injunction.

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Anonymous wrote:Really, our MS and HS buildings and facilities are appalling when you go to Loudoun or PWC.

The PWC football team seems to prefer our facilities at Hayfield.

Not all of them. There are 13 PWC high school football teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Its lucky for Hayfield that they are playing a low income school that has very low turnout for away games.

They’re playing a school whose boundaries have essentially the same median income and is located less than 3 miles away.

Not exactly a huge trek required.

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Anonymous wrote:When will we know if Edison decides to play? My son and his friends want to go to support Edison but its a drive for us. I dont want to schlep out there for nothing.

An out of the way family trip for this? Oy.

Many FCPS HS athletes are very invested in this story and were shocked and disappointed hat the school system backed the cheaters. The kids put in a ton of time into their sports and respect the game and the rules.

We live in one of the most fascinating areas on earth with tourists eager to see all that the DMV offers. And you choose to road trip to…a high school football game in a far, uninteresting part of Fairfax Cnty at an unaffiliated school. Likely so that you can boo some kids you don’t know as a family. Stay home, have some cocoa with the kids, and watch a movie instead.

Do you know any high school boys? LOL.

Do you? Do you think your “son and his friends” just want to drive far away to an unaffiliated school to just cheer on Edison and not boo and provoke Hayfield? Do better.

Personally, if it were my kids I think that would be a fine way for FCPS student athletes to express their disdain and disgust for FCPS's support of cheating.

That would be poor sportsmanship. It’s also poor sportsmanship to accuse someone of cheating

VHSL found Hayfield guilty of cheating so its not an accusation at this point: its a statement of fact.

Well they shouldn’t have, which is why the Commonwealth courts issued the injunction.

The injunction was because one of the 3 layers of VHSL decision-making was technically decided by the director and not via a committee. The decision was affirmed twice by VHSL and VHSL is the final arbiter of who is a Cheater.

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Anonymous wrote:Really, our MS and HS buildings and facilities are appalling when you go to Loudoun or PWC.

The PWC football team seems to prefer our facilities at Hayfield.

Not all of them. There are 13 PWC high school football teams.

The PWC schools are newer, but Hayfield has a nice gym and fields.

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Anonymous wrote:Its lucky for Hayfield that they are playing a low income school that has very low turnout for away games.

They’re playing a school whose boundaries have essentially the same median income and is located less than 3 miles away.

Not exactly a huge trek required.

Edison has significantly more FARMs kids than Hayfield

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Anonymous wrote:Really, our MS and HS buildings and facilities are appalling when you go to Loudoun or PWC.

The rival school districts like Arlington, DC, etc., all have middle schools with dedicated auditoriums, multiple gyms, lots of field space, etc. The only middle school with an auditorium is Luther Jackson I think, since that used to be a high school.

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is that Reid/FCPS SB was advised they'd very likely be sued (and sued successfully!) if they tried to actually investigate the transfer students. Can you imagine the optics if the media got wind that the system removed or suspended "homeless" students, especially if they were all students of color? That then puts the school district in the unpleasant place of basically knowing that Hayfield is rotten but needing to stick to the original VHSL ruling to save face. When the VHSL changed its mind (for whatever reason), FCPS then had to double down on the defensiveness.

While I'm no Reid cheerleader and I pretty much despise the SB, I do feel for them in that this has been a no-win situation for them from the start.

The Redid narrative is working then if you and others think this, because VHSL never changed their mind and it wasn’t homeless registration. Neither Reid, nor School Board were in a no-win situation. They actively chose again and again where they are now.

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Anonymous wrote:Its lucky for Hayfield that they are playing a low income school that has very low turnout for away games.

They’re playing a school whose boundaries have essentially the same median income and is located less than 3 miles away.

Not exactly a huge trek required.

Edison has significantly more FARMs kids than Hayfield

I think Edison has the recently renovated building however.

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Anonymous wrote:When will we know if Edison decides to play? My son and his friends want to go to support Edison but its a drive for us. I dont want to schlep out there for nothing.

An out of the way family trip for this? Oy.

Many FCPS HS athletes are very invested in this story and were shocked and disappointed hat the school system backed the cheaters. The kids put in a ton of time into their sports and respect the game and the rules.

We live in one of the most fascinating areas on earth with tourists eager to see all that the DMV offers. And you choose to road trip to…a high school football game in a far, uninteresting part of Fairfax Cnty at an unaffiliated school. Likely so that you can boo some kids you don’t know as a family. Stay home, have some cocoa with the kids, and watch a movie instead.

Do you know any high school boys? LOL.

Do you? Do you think your “son and his friends” just want to drive far away to an unaffiliated school to just cheer on Edison and not boo and provoke Hayfield? Do better.

Personally, if it were my kids I think that would be a fine way for FCPS student athletes to express their disdain and disgust for FCPS's support of cheating.

That would be poor sportsmanship. It’s also poor sportsmanship to accuse someone of cheating

VHSL found Hayfield guilty of cheating so its not an accusation at this point: its a statement of fact.

Well they shouldn’t have, which is why the Commonwealth courts issued the injunction.

That’s not what court held. Was procedural error only. Did lot say anything as to whether the actual finding was correct or not.