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Anonymous
Parents are a negative influence on the whole. As a trainer, i had to manage them more than the kids. They are annoying on the sidelines during matches, they have a very short term thinking (and not a multi-year development mindset to maximize the ability of their individual child), they believe their money (because most of the US is pay to play outside of the very top academies) should buy them influence, they use it as an avenue to compete with other parents and live vicariously through their child, and if they don't have a background in soccer they have odd ideas. If it were up to me, training and match play until the age of 16 would be closed door outside of the very highest level. |
Anonymous
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Spoken like a coach who believes he knows everything, including what's best for my child. But in reality, he just wants to be able to yell and berate at your kid with no one watching, to be able to give playing time based on who sucks up to him the most, who doesn't want to be accountable for when his training is sub-par and the kids aren't responding, who thinks his system and skills are the only correct approach and doesn't want parents to see the lack of development.
How about this, see if you can find any other job where the person paying the bills will agree to wait ten years without any oversight before being allowed to see the result. |
Anonymous
Not the OP and I get what you are saying but you are also wrong. You are paying for a service which doesn't give you the right to interfere with what the coach is providing. If you are not happy with what you got, you can complain to his supervisors who can do something about it or you may just take your kid somewhere else. You are the customer as a soccer parent, not the boss/supervisor who can ask the coach to do his job differently/better. Kind of eludes to what he was saying that just because you pay, it doesn't mean you know everything. |
Anonymous
There are many reasons why leaving your children unsupervised with other adults is not a good idea. |
Anonymous
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I would just muzzle the parents. They can watch, sure. Just shut up.
Put more eloquently here ... http://changingthegameproject.com/open-letter-dad-wont-stop-yelling/ |
Anonymous
Sorry, but as a soccer coach, on the soccer field, I do know what's best for your child. And if you don't believe that, please get your kid off my team. |
Anonymous
You are a little full of yourself. |
Anonymous
I don't yell and berate at all - all trainers from volunteer u5 to jose mouriho have their weaknesses. It's funny that's the first thing you assumed - that I was some type of bobby knight type, when in fact one of my biggest weaknesses as a trainer is I am very soft to a fault and do pretty bad with poorly disciplined kids who act out. In fact some parents sometimes complain that I don't yell out enough directions from the side of the field to my players like every other coach that his son played for. I explained that soccer isn't like basketball and football - I need to see the players use their critical thinking skills on their own to process and find solutions. I can't call time outs and draw up plays. We work in training but during a match, I need to let my players express themsevles and see if they can make tactical decisions during a passage of play. Quite a number of higher level coaches (klinsmann for one) have stated american players are too used to being over-coached/micromanaged. My playing time philosphy is dependent the sides I have coached but the biggest factor has been if you are sharp in training. At the u11/u10 level, i give equal playing to my whole squad - at worst it's 60/40 split. Kissing up doesn't work to any proper trainer. As for sub-par training, I readily admit I struggle with kids who genuinenly don't want to be there on the training ground, who don't like technical building skills, and who are playing because mom/dad want to put them in an activity. A successful year for me is when I see all my players improve individually and go on to play at a higher level than the year they played under me. I don't think my system and technical development philosophy is the only path. I (and many other coaches) believe parents for the most part are a negative influence. Coaching girls in this respect is easier - they listen, the ones that show up are more apt to wanting to be there over being forced to be there, they are more focused, are willing to do repetitive drills to build technical skills, and their parents are easier to deal with for the most part. Oh and I have a couple contacts who work in the acadmies at Sporting Club and Benfica (portuguese clubs) and the parental influence in development in iberia is a lot less. Granted I think a lot of it is the pay-to-play issue. So I do get that parents feel the need for influence/access if they are directly cutting checks. |
Anonymous
The above PP is not me (who made the comment about wishing for closed door matches/trainings). PP isn't showing a constructive attitude. |
Anonymous
To an extent, you're right. But I'm still amused by a conversation I recall when a youth soccer coach dismissed a parent's question by saying he was the coach and the other guy was just a parent, so he couldn't possibly understand. That parent was Bob Bradley. |
Anonymous
Sorry, should have noted I was a different coach than the other person posting. But yes, it's fine if you think that. I know more about soccer than you do. I've trained for years in how to coach kids. I've spent hours with your kids in practice, going over game plans, letting them know exactly what's expected of them, objectively noting their skills and deficiencies. And it all gets screwed up when parents start yelling tactical advice during a game and the kids instinctively listen. Yes, you're paying to have them play...but your doing a disservice to your child if you think that money gives you the right to help coach the team. |
Anonymous
Look, I'll happily discuss anything with a parent, I'll patiently explain everything they want to know in detail...but I guarantee if Bob is watching Michael play, he'll respect the coach and be quiet on the sidelines during a game. |
Anonymous
As a parent, I totally agree that parents should only cheer for their team. Any form of sideline coaching should be forbidden. |
Anonymous
pp wishing for closed doors - thanks - this was much more constructive to post and I fully agree. |
Anonymous
As far as coaching goes and knowing what is best for my child, etc. etc. I'm a dad who currently pays a lot of money for my kids soccer activities. I also have several coaching licenses, coached travel soccer, and worked with trainers. I'm not very experienced but I have some. Just some comments...you may be a fantastic soccer player, coach, trainer, educator, role model for our kids. If so, you would be one of the very few. Most of the travel coaches out there played at the college level and have a D license....these things mean nothing as to your ability to coach, educate, develop, and be a role model for kids. Playing soccer even professionally means NOTHING! Having an "D" license means that you can set up cones efficiently and create a progressive training session, etc. It means nothing towards your ability to connect with the kids and teach them. None of these things tell me you can develop my kid or lets me know that you know what is best for my kid. Most coaches put out BS coaching philosophies, don't follow a proven curriculum, chase wins, etc. As frustrating as it is for coaches to sit there and listen to parents, it's also frustrating for parents to sit there and watch full of S coaches. Like I said, you may be a great one, but you are in a field that consists of so so many crap coaches/trainers, you will always be 2nd guessed by parents who are looking for that quality coach. |