Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would be transparent on enrollment - they want it to be a magnet school - that is clear - but the hocus pocus on transportation I think kept people away. Even TJ busses from out here. We opted in and I’m excited for my kid- I think it will be great but li do regret the chaos led some of his friends to stay at base schools (or sports). What will be weird is if this becomes an Oak Hill ES plus opt in situation which feels possible at this point. They will have a few OH kids who had no intention of being at a stem magnet - could get weird. Many kids at OH are into this sort of magnet program anyway so 80 percent will be ok with it. I actually think our home values will go up if we are zoned as in boundary for an AI/Robotics/Engineering school. Way up actually. Do not waste your time typing that this is not a magnet school, I understand your view, I have another.

I would be very upset if not many Chantilly kids opted in. Western was bought to help with the overcrowding of Chantilly, not to help under-enrolled schools like South Lakes, so they can increase their house value by being in boundary.

Plenty of people at Chantilly want the school to have fewer students but no one wants to move, they want other people to move. Sound familiar? I would be surprised if too many kids from Chantilly opted in but I would guess that there are some. It would be nice if they released how many kids opted in and from what school.

Yeah, it sounds a lot like West Springfield, but they didn’t drop $200 million on a new school a few miles away from WSHS. At this point they should be thrown in jail if they don’t adopt boundaries that at a minimum move all of Oak Hill to Western.

No, they have Lewis near by with a ton of open spots that no one wants to move to.

Everyone expects Oak Hill to be moved from Chantilly to Oak Hill. That will move a lot of kids out of Chantilly. That is not going to be reflected in the opt in numbers. The numbers for next year are going to be the people who want to leave IB, the people what want their kids closer to home, and the people excited about the new programs that are going to be offered. And the people who think their ES is going to be moved and want to make sure that they have transportation or that siblings are at the same school. The last two are the people who are less enthused by the move whie the first three are people who are more excited about attending.


The ratios for next year are not going to match the ratios when they actually get the boundaries done in June.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

I hope you are right about finally setting boundaries. I'm beginning to wonder.....

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

There is a lot of criss-crossing and duplicate bus routes because of the AAP situation. My Waples AAP kid's bus to Carson comes 20 minutes earlier than the Franklin bus. The kids are more spread out so that one bus covers several large neighborhoods, versus the Franklin bus which is full after servicing just ours.
The real problem is splitting all the kids off outside their Oakton pyramid for middle school. They should all go to Franklin (and Carson should too if they stay at Oakton) so they'll know more kids in high school. Right now it will be such a small percentage of kids from Carson moving on to Oakton that they'll barely know anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

There is a lot of criss-crossing and duplicate bus routes because of the AAP situation. My Waples AAP kid's bus to Carson comes 20 minutes earlier than the Franklin bus. The kids are more spread out so that one bus covers several large neighborhoods, versus the Franklin bus which is full after servicing just ours.
The real problem is splitting all the kids off outside their Oakton pyramid for middle school. They should all go to Franklin (and Carson should too if they stay at Oakton) so they'll know more kids in high school. Right now it will be such a small percentage of kids from Carson moving on to Oakton that they'll barely know anyone.

Yes. I know it hasn’t been the last few posters but I have seen several comments in this thread from Crossfield families who both want to stay at Carson and Oakton. You can’t have both. If their argument is that they are part of the “Oakton Community” then go to Franklin. Carson needs to be freed up so the students going to Western can be together to eliminate this ridiculous split feeder. If people wanted to stay at Carson they shouldn’t have/ be advocating to stay at Oakton so hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

Carson’s base ES are pretty darn good. The school will remain excellent if the AAP program was moved.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

DP and I agree.

Set up an AAP center at Franklin.

If Crossfield gets to stay at Oakton, move them to Franklin.

If Oak Hill gets to go to Western, move them to Carson.

Less split feeder and less bussing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

DP and I agree.

Set up an AAP center at Franklin.

If Crossfield gets to stay at Oakton, move them to Franklin.

If Oak Hill gets to go to Western, move them to Carson.

Less split feeder and less bussing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

Why is that a problem? Sounds like a great opportunity for those kids!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

Why is that a problem? Sounds like a great opportunity for those kids!

It takes away opportunities from the schools they leave behind. There are fewer clubs and teams at the other schools when the motivated students (and their parents) are concentrated at one school. The same thing happens with kids leaving Lewis. It will never improve until they force a change.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

Why is that a problem? Sounds like a great opportunity for those kids!

It takes away opportunities from the schools they leave behind. There are fewer clubs and teams at the other schools when the motivated students (and their parents) are concentrated at one school. The same thing happens with kids leaving Lewis. It will never improve until they force a change.

AAP are not the only motivated kids. But, they do have the motivated parents.