Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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He was very obviously republican and took issue with Kirk. Kirk did say some pretty inflammatory things.
The Republican Party is splitting because maga is truly separate. And even within maga party there are divisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Well nutters, you still think it was a false flag operation? Lol

When it comes from the far right, it basically is. The fact that people on this thread are STILL trying to say Antifa and leftist are responsible then...

It’s insane, but 100% expected. Arguing with them only legitimizes their viewpoint.

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Anonymous wrote:So Republicans are saying he can't be a Republican because Republicans like and support fascism?

Yeah. They are really committed to next level mental gymnastics to avoid any sense of responsibility for what they have created.

Show me a republican member of antifa.

Again, are you saying that republicans support fascism?

You might be right, I don’t know.

Do you see any republicans opposing the rising fascism in the US? Maybe the Utah governor, maybe Thom Tillis...not many beyond that.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs will slither away from this thread now.

Except they haven't. They'll bend reality any direction they have to in order to deflect from the rotten nature of their political culture.

The shooter is more complicated and espouses both left and right ideology.

But because he wrote on the casings antifa slogans , Antifa could be designated a terrorist organization. He will be used to target left winged organizations.

The right wing was going after the ghost-like "antifa" since they first heard of / invented it.

It doesn’t matter how much you dismiss this. Trump is going to go after antifa. this is the excuse to label it as a terrorist organization. He and his alllies have been wanting to do this his last term.

According the Gov, inscribed on one of the casings was "catch this fascist". Should Trump say "yeah, we're good bro, nothing to see here?"

Are you going to ignore the gay and anti trans jokes he scratched on the bullets too? A lot of it was RPG stuff. This shooter found some extremely dark corners of the internet and it looks like he found them when he was still quite young.

What antitrans jokes?

Anyway all of this is speculation based on statements from known liars with a long history of lying. The public has seen no evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Man. All this damn fighting from grown adults is ridiculous. Can we all agree a mentally disturbed young man, regardless of politics, committed murder and should be punished. Whether you liked Charlie Kirk or not, hopefully we can agree that he didn’t deserve to murdered in broad daylight, especially in front of his wife and two young children. That’s it. Who cares about politics. This is right and wrong. There have been Democrat, Republican, and mentally ill shooters in these past event years. All messed up and wrong, regardless of their motive. He was a father na husband who didn’t deserve to be murdered.

He wasn’t mentally disturbed. What he did was with pure intent and utter awareness.

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Anonymous wrote:Well nutters, you still think it was a false flag operation? Lol

When it comes from the far right, it basically is. The fact that people on this thread are STILL trying to say Antifa and leftist are responsible then...

He is a Republican, gun lover from a background of religious faith. They just can't accept that one of their own did it like always.

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Anonymous wrote:This dude is a chronically online type. He is no normal democrat or republican. I would almost be inclined to calm him an accelerationist (not sure if that’s the right term) more than anything else.

Yet again.

Self radicalization online, grab a gun, be a wannabe hero.

+1 there are some dark effed up corners of the internet. Keep an eye on your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs will slither away from this thread now.

Except they haven't. They'll bend reality any direction they have to in order to deflect from the rotten nature of their political culture.

The shooter is more complicated and espouses both left and right ideology.

But because he wrote on the casings antifa slogans , Antifa could be designated a terrorist organization. He will be used to target left winged organizations.

The right wing was going after the ghost-like "antifa" since they first heard of / invented it.

It doesn’t matter how much you dismiss this. Trump is going to go after antifa. this is the excuse to label it as a terrorist organization. He and his alllies have been wanting to do this his last term.

According the Gov, inscribed on one of the casings was "catch this fascist". Should Trump say "yeah, we're good bro, nothing to see here?"

So, great, I think that we are all getting onto the same page here. Trump is a fascist and he’s going to after anyone that disagrees with him by labeling them as an anti-fascist.

Yeah that's it. Curious? Do you ever get sunlight and interact with actual humans outside of the internet?

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Anonymous wrote:House Dems should drop a ‘Charlie Kirk Gun Safety Act’ on the floor just to make Republicans go on record voting against it.

Another sticky for the the top of each page.

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Anonymous wrote:Many fail to understand that there can be conservative and democrat within the same household. My sister is a democrat amongst all of our conservative family members. The shooters family is conservative, but his father said he was concerned about his son encase he had become “ full of hate”. He had a family dinner where he mentioned Charlie Kirk coming to the Utah college and how he hated him for his beliefs. Make no mistake, the “ full of hate” was because he was a leftist.

But does your sister still live in the house with you? Most leftists raised in right wing families leave the home ASAP. Usually also the state, if the stat is Utah, South Dakota, North Dakota or Montana.

Yes. She still lives with my parents and her brother. Very much a leftist and my parents have always been staunchly conservative.

Well, unless she's a murderer that's not quite relevant. I doubt she is.

Conservative does not equal maga. I know many reasonable people who are republicans but don’t agree with maga party line

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jsteele wrote:I am watching the press conference and Kash Patel is a complete embarrassment. MAGAs, do you really have faith in this guy? He started out saying, "This is what happens when you let cops be cops." Actually, this is what happens when family members turn the perp in. The FBI had not idea this guy was the shooter.

No "MAGA" ever had faith in that dunce. I wouldn't conflate Trump picking some stooge with genuine support from the base. I also wouldn't conflate all the bot armies and bribed right wing grifters pumping some nominee with genuine support from the base. Trump doesn't have carte blanche from "his" base. He's a lame duck 80 year old old fart at the end of the day.

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Antifa did J6 then trump pardoned them then antifa shot Charlie Kirk ergo trump is antifa and killed Charlie Kirk.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs will slither away from this thread now.

Except they haven't. They'll bend reality any direction they have to in order to deflect from the rotten nature of their political culture.

The shooter is more complicated and espouses both left and right ideology.

But because he wrote on the casings antifa slogans , Antifa could be designated a terrorist organization. He will be used to target left winged organizations.

The right wing was going after the ghost-like "antifa" since they first heard of / invented it.

The right wing didn’t invent “antifa”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_City_Antifa

https://rosecityantifa.org/

Disinformation. You’re so dense you can’t even spot it when you see it.

Huh? German communists invented it in the 1930s.

Here's a socialist friendly website to show it

https://jacobin.com/2017/05/antifascist-movements-hitler-nazis-kpd-spd-germany-cold-war

That’s “antifascist”. The article shows no evidence of the abbreviation “antifa” being used back then. Germans love long words.

Now you're just trolling :p

NP.

Antifa absolutely exists and is quite active in the USA;

Antifa is intentionally very secretive and uses encrypted apps like Signal (which was also used by HRC only after she got hacked), to communicate;

Antifa was responsible for a significant amount of the arson and rioting labeled as “BLM” riots, as their interests align.

There is someone on DCUM who has continually attempted to deny Antifa’s existence and minimize its impact.

That person is either an Antifa member, or a sympathizer.

So you are pro-fascism. Understood.

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Anonymous wrote:This dude is a chronically online type. He is no normal democrat or republican. I would almost be inclined to calm him an accelerationist (not sure if that’s the right term) more than anything else.

Yet again.

Self radicalization online, grab a gun, be a wannabe hero.

+1 there are some dark effed up corners of the internet. Keep an eye on your kids.

Yes and Charlie Kirk was one of them. Look at how he has radicalized these maga posters.

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Anonymous wrote:Man. All this damn fighting from grown adults is ridiculous. Can we all agree a mentally disturbed young man, regardless of politics, committed murder and should be punished. Whether you liked Charlie Kirk or not, hopefully we can agree that he didn’t deserve to murdered in broad daylight, especially in front of his wife and two young children. That’s it. Who cares about politics. This is right and wrong. There have been Democrat, Republican, and mentally ill shooters in these past event years. All messed up and wrong, regardless of their motive. He was a father na husband who didn’t deserve to be murdered.

I am just wondering why you didn't say this yesterday.