US has no good options in Ukraine

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Anonymous wrote:The bankers are OUT, permanently shuttering operations.

I just wish the pharmaceutical companies would pull out!

But I guess they’re just in the business of cashing in on other’s suffering.

Can we fine any US business that does not pull out?

Like I said in the thread you started: humanitarian goods, like drugs, need to stay in the country.

Similarly, banks that provide retail operations need to stay, so that people can access their bank accounts.

Try to consider this with a bit of nuance.

There is a difference between medicine and other humanitarian goods made available in a country and a for profit Pharma company operating there. Anyways i assume they get their medicine for India at deeply discounted prices.

Why would you assume that? Big Pharma is evil, but they do provide life saving drugs. If we lived in Russia and Biogen pulled out, my husband wouldn’t be able to get his MS medication. There’s no cheap equivalent we can buy from India.

Not sure about your husband's medication, but many drugs are made in India and available in other countries for pennies on the dollar. It's not an equivalent of a drug, it's the same brand and maker., they simply aren't available in the US at those prices because Big Pharma uses US consumers as it's wallet.

It's a particularly specialized and/or very expensive drug produced in the West, most Russians simply don't have access to it now.

What point are you trying to make? I simply don’t understand why anyone would want to limit people’s access to life-saving drugs.

I agree. The Russian people will already suffer enough.

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Anonymous wrote:The bankers are OUT, permanently shuttering operations.

I just wish the pharmaceutical companies would pull out!

But I guess they’re just in the business of cashing in on other’s suffering.

Can we fine any US business that does not pull out?

Like I said in the thread you started: humanitarian goods, like drugs, need to stay in the country.

Similarly, banks that provide retail operations need to stay, so that people can access their bank accounts.

Try to consider this with a bit of nuance.

There is a difference between medicine and other humanitarian goods made available in a country and a for profit Pharma company operating there. Anyways i assume they get their medicine for India at deeply discounted prices.

Why would you assume that? Big Pharma is evil, but they do provide life saving drugs. If we lived in Russia and Biogen pulled out, my husband wouldn’t be able to get his MS medication. There’s no cheap equivalent we can buy from India.

Not sure about your husband's medication, but many drugs are made in India and available in other countries for pennies on the dollar. It's not an equivalent of a drug, it's the same brand and maker., they simply aren't available in the US at those prices because Big Pharma uses US consumers as it's wallet.

It's a particularly specialized and/or very expensive drug produced in the West, most Russians simply don't have access to it now.

What point are you trying to make? I simply don’t understand why anyone would want to limit people’s access to life-saving drugs.

What’s so hard to understand? Those companies don’t make drugs for Russian consumption. Russia getting cheap drugs from India.

Can you prove that?

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Russia nationalizing these companies at rapid pace. If they are smart they are destroying IP and sensitive documents as we speak.

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Anonymous wrote:Russia’s economy is about the size of Texas’s economy.
Real big banks are not going to waste time with high risk small markets.

Then why were they there in the first place?

It was not high risk. They would only do high risk if there is a lot money to be made.

In Russia the risk is not worth the reward anymore. Simple.

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I think there have been some posters in this yhread doing this, or falling for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Did Biden once vote against star wars missile defense?

Yes. As Robert Gates famously said, "Biden has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy issue and national security issue over the past four decades." Unfortunately, he is the commander in chief at a time we need someone who gets foreign policy correct.

Throughout his career, Mr. Biden has consistently opposed modernization of our strategic nuclear forces. He was a fierce opponent of Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative. Mr. Biden voted against funding SDI, saying, "The president's continued adherence to [SDI] constitutes one of the most reckless and irresponsible acts in the history of modern statecraft." Mr. Biden has remained a consistent critic of missile defense and even opposed the U.S. dropping out of the Antiballistic Missile Treaty after the collapse of the Soviet Union (which was the co-signatory to the ABM Treaty) and the end of the Cold War.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122049148440397625

Living in DC, SDI would sure be comforting around now. Do people realize how much we disemboweled the all of it - both agressive AND defensive?

SDI was just Mutually Assured Destruction 2.0. The only thing that could potentially stop it would be a iron-dome type system that also includes weapons fast enough to intercept and destroy incoming missiles including hypersonic. And nobody, Republican or Democrat, has particularly worked toward making that happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Russia nationalizing these companies at rapid pace. If they are smart they are destroying IP and sensitive documents as we speak.

Nationalize them to what ends? Their own Russian industries are falling apart. Their flagship brands like Lada and Aeroflot are collapsing and imploding and they can't even keep them afloat much less the western companies that they want to take over but don't have the resources to do anything with? Seems to me "seize and nationalize" is just an empty feel-good talking point from Putin's regime that won't amount to much.

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Anonymous wrote:Russia nationalizing these companies at rapid pace. If they are smart they are destroying IP and sensitive documents as we speak.

Nationalize them to what ends? Their own Russian industries are falling apart. Their flagship brands like Lada and Aeroflot are collapsing and imploding and they can't even keep them afloat much less the western companies that they want to take over but don't have the resources to do anything with? Seems to me "seize and nationalize" is just an empty feel-good talking point from Putin's regime that won't amount to much.

The Russian economy was already 70% state-owned. I’m not sure why any of you think that further nationalization will make much of a difference.

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Nationalization will not affect anything of any importance whatsoever. Not sure why we're discussing it.

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Nationalization will not affect anything of any importance whatsoever. Not sure why we're discussing it.

Because the people posting about it have no actual knowledge, and yet have strong opinions. The worst combination.

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this is fine

(that was sarcasm, for those not following)

[Anonymous]

Russia is a paper dragon with some nukes that may fire, most likely will not be with 10 miles of their target.

Someone has to fight them at some point.
Two biggest kids on the block gonna fight at sometime.

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Robert Gates: "Biden has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.”

I am certain he would say the same thing if asked today.

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Anonymous wrote:The bankers are OUT, permanently shuttering operations.

I just wish the pharmaceutical companies would pull out!

But I guess they’re just in the business of cashing in on other’s suffering.

Can we fine any US business that does not pull out?

Like I said in the thread you started: humanitarian goods, like drugs, need to stay in the country.

Similarly, banks that provide retail operations need to stay, so that people can access their bank accounts.

Try to consider this with a bit of nuance.

There is a difference between medicine and other humanitarian goods made available in a country and a for profit Pharma company operating there. Anyways i assume they get their medicine for India at deeply discounted prices.

Why would you assume that? Big Pharma is evil, but they do provide life saving drugs. If we lived in Russia and Biogen pulled out, my husband wouldn’t be able to get his MS medication. There’s no cheap equivalent we can buy from India.

Not sure about your husband's medication, but many drugs are made in India and available in other countries for pennies on the dollar. It's not an equivalent of a drug, it's the same brand and maker., they simply aren't available in the US at those prices because Big Pharma uses US consumers as it's wallet.

It's a particularly specialized and/or very expensive drug produced in the West, most Russians simply don't have access to it now.

What point are you trying to make? I simply don’t understand why anyone would want to limit people’s access to life-saving drugs.

I agree. The Russian people will already suffer enough.

I'm sorry but until they are all in the streets protesting and want Putin's head on a platter, They have not suffered enough.