New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lots of promotions, any relegations?

This thread has mentioned several RL clubs and a couple ECNL clubs that have joined GA. It's a long thread, but the info is there.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Relegated to GA, but not last in the league in any age group, and are currently top half of the conference in half their age groups. Seems suspicious.

16 Teams in MWC

2012 1st
2011 7th
2010 15th
2009 15th
2008 11th
07/06 15th


The MWC team that should be relegated by never will because their owner is one of the founders of ECNL - is WFC Wisconsin.

the poster was discussing why Midwest United got kicked out of MWC ... the same conference that FCWI is in but doesn't get kicked out. Midwest United is in Michigan...why you talking about them then

2012 - 16th (1-15-3)
2011 - 16th (0-17-1)
2010 - 7th (8-9-3)
2009 - 16th (3-18-3)
2008 - 13th (3-17-7)
07/06 - 16th (3-17-1)

these results are almost same for the last 5 years ... maybe one place different. So 4 of their 6 teams are in last place and just one in the top half of the conference. and it's been that way for years.


Wisconsin? We talkin about Wisconsin? Man who cares about all this
Anonymous
forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.

Not equivalent events.

The ECNL event in Phoenix included ALL clubs from the west coast and all over the nation.

The GA North Carolina event had teams from around the nation but the top clubs from each regional league played in Champions Cup in Florida last month + didn't attend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.

Not equivalent events.

The ECNL event in Phoenix included ALL clubs from the west coast and all over the nation.

The GA North Carolina event had teams from around the nation but the top clubs from each regional league played in Champions Cup in Florida last month + didn't attend.

Correct + either way recruiters are going to focus on the top teams. Leagues can mix the top teams into events like what ECNL does or Leagues can break them out into a separate event like what GA does.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Relegated to GA, but not last in the league in any age group, and are currently top half of the conference in half their age groups. Seems suspicious.

16 Teams in MWC

2012 1st
2011 7th
2010 15th
2009 15th
2008 11th
07/06 15th


The MWC team that should be relegated by never will because their owner is one of the founders of ECNL - is WFC Wisconsin.

2012 - 16th (1-15-3)
2011 - 16th (0-17-1)
2010 - 7th (8-9-3)
2009 - 16th (3-18-3)
2008 - 13th (3-17-7)
07/06 - 16th (3-17-1)

these results are almost same for the last 5 years ... maybe one place different. So 4 of their 6 teams are in last place and just one in the top half of the conference. and it's been that way for years.


Wisconsin? We talkin about Wisconsin? Man who cares about all this



The poster was replying to another poster discussing how Midwest untied (Michigan) got kicked out of the Midwest conference in ecnl … other poster was discussing how the club that should have been kicked out was FCWI
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.


no reason for coaches to go to GA tournaments. if they do, they usually send assistants. Champions Cup and Playoffs are the only place college coaches should go to and it shows. everything else is just a waste of their time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.


no reason for coaches to go to GA tournaments. if they do, they usually send assistants. Champions Cup and Playoffs are the only place college coaches should go to and it shows. everything else is just a waste of their time.

My kid played at champions cup and the rumor going around was that recruiters were impressed by what they saw and were planning to attend more GA events. But maybe they always say that kind of thing.

You obviously have an agenda but what's the difference if recruiters go to an ECNL event but only watch/scout the top teams. Or if recruiters go to a GA event with only the top clubs playing? It's the same thing!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.


no reason for coaches to go to GA tournaments. if they do, they usually send assistants. Champions Cup and Playoffs are the only place college coaches should go to and it shows. everything else is just a waste of their time.

My kid played at champions cup and the rumor going around was that recruiters were impressed by what they saw and were planning to attend more GA events. But maybe they always say that kind of thing.

You obviously have an agenda but what's the difference if recruiters go to an ECNL event but only watch/scout the top teams. Or if recruiters go to a GA event with only the top clubs playing? It's the same thing!

By only inviting the top clubs to an event like Champions Cup at least GA isn't trying to sell a dream (and charging parents for it) to players that have no chance.
Anonymous
Fact is,

Colleges will begin offering full scholarships to kids in the Transfer Portal and less for kids playing club soccer.

Colleges will rely heavily on the top clubs in the country to produce, not the league…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Fact is,

Colleges will begin offering full scholarships to kids in the Transfer Portal and less for kids playing club soccer.

Colleges will rely heavily on the top clubs in the country to produce, not the league…

It's always been like this for top youth clubs. Idiots get blinded by the blinking lights that leagues dazzle them to the point that they suddenly believe their kid playing on a lower level team is what recruiters are looking for.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.


no reason for coaches to go to GA tournaments. if they do, they usually send assistants. Champions Cup and Playoffs are the only place college coaches should go to and it shows. everything else is just a waste of their time.

My kid played at champions cup and the rumor going around was that recruiters were impressed by what they saw and were planning to attend more GA events. But maybe they always say that kind of thing.

You obviously have an agenda but what's the difference if recruiters go to an ECNL event but only watch/scout the top teams. Or if recruiters go to a GA event with only the top clubs playing? It's the same thing!



I'll take things that didn't happen for $100. GA tournaments are not good. period. hat is why there is low turnout and the GA only has 3 tournaments and the summer tournament doesn't even invite the oldest age group. CAUSE coaches don't come. 20 top teams is all they go watch for recruiting seriously. it's that simple. stop sugar coating it. the December tournament, ga's biggest tournament will start getting less and less coaches.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.


no reason for coaches to go to GA tournaments. if they do, they usually send assistants. Champions Cup and Playoffs are the only place college coaches should go to and it shows. everything else is just a waste of their time.

My kid played at champions cup and the rumor going around was that recruiters were impressed by what they saw and were planning to attend more GA events. But maybe they always say that kind of thing.

You obviously have an agenda but what's the difference if recruiters go to an ECNL event but only watch/scout the top teams. Or if recruiters go to a GA event with only the top clubs playing? It's the same thing!



I'll take things that didn't happen for $100. GA tournaments are not good. period. hat is why there is low turnout and the GA only has 3 tournaments and the summer tournament doesn't even invite the oldest age group. CAUSE coaches don't come. 20 top teams is all they go watch for recruiting seriously. it's that simple. stop sugar coating it. the December tournament, ga's biggest tournament will start getting less and less coaches.


Source?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.


no reason for coaches to go to GA tournaments. if they do, they usually send assistants. Champions Cup and Playoffs are the only place college coaches should go to and it shows. everything else is just a waste of their time.

My kid played at champions cup and the rumor going around was that recruiters were impressed by what they saw and were planning to attend more GA events. But maybe they always say that kind of thing.

You obviously have an agenda but what's the difference if recruiters go to an ECNL event but only watch/scout the top teams. Or if recruiters go to a GA event with only the top clubs playing? It's the same thing!

By only inviting the top clubs to an event like Champions Cup at least GA isn't trying to sell a dream (and charging parents for it) to players that have no chance.


the winter showcase sells itself as their biggest tournament. but the coaches mainly go to the champions cup games. all the other teams that go to the showcases, well they are lucky to have coaches come out. but its is smart. have champions cup with a showcase so more teams will show up but in reality if you are a college coach there is no reason to go to any other games to recruit but a champions cups game. you are getting the verified top teams
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.


no reason for coaches to go to GA tournaments. if they do, they usually send assistants. Champions Cup and Playoffs are the only place college coaches should go to and it shows. everything else is just a waste of their time.

My kid played at champions cup and the rumor going around was that recruiters were impressed by what they saw and were planning to attend more GA events. But maybe they always say that kind of thing.

You obviously have an agenda but what's the difference if recruiters go to an ECNL event but only watch/scout the top teams. Or if recruiters go to a GA event with only the top clubs playing? It's the same thing!



I'll take things that didn't happen for $100. GA tournaments are not good. period. hat is why there is low turnout and the GA only has 3 tournaments and the summer tournament doesn't even invite the oldest age group. CAUSE coaches don't come. 20 top teams is all they go watch for recruiting seriously. it's that simple. stop sugar coating it. the December tournament, ga's biggest tournament will start getting less and less coaches.

Why would GA put resources into the oldest age group? If you're not engaged with a recruiter by that time it's not going to happen.

I also like how you use leading words and innuendo to be negative about GA. The truth is that attendance players, coaches, scouts, etc has increased every year since GA was founded.

Since you like to play the one up game I'll make sure videos of GA teams playing international teams at MLSNs Generation Adidas Cup get posted.
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