Hogan running for Senate

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand. I keep reading about voting for Hogan as dangerous for the Senate because of the majority .Are there any other seats that are potentially flipping either one way or the other?

I am voting for Hogan, but I want to understand why people who like him are voting for him because of the Senate.

And if you’re curious, I’m not a Trumper. In fact, I loath him and I’m voting for Biden.

I don’t know which senate seats could potentially be flipped this election cycle, but I think it’s a very safe assumption that if Hogan wins, Republicans will have a senate majority. That means that if Biden also wins, his Supreme Court nominees (if there is an opening) will never even get a vote, just like Merrick Garland. Then Republicans will likely win the midterms and a golden opportunity to reshape the SC will evaporate forever.

If both Hogan and Trump win, please don’t fool yourself into thinking that “moderate” Larry Hogan will courageously stand up to Trump and MAGA and block Trump’s SC nominees. I absolutely guarantee you that this will not happen. He will wither under the pressure and fall in line just like every Republican before him and Trump’s nominee will be on the Court for the next 40 years.

Remember when Kavanaugh looked Susan Collins in the eye?

I don’t know what this means. Please explain.

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

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To anyone reading this who hasn’t yet made up their mind: Hogan will vote for Trump’s Supreme Court nominees. Trone will vote for Biden’s Supreme Court nominees. That’s all you need to know. Please ignore the nonsense rationalizations put forward by the Hogan apologists and go into this election with your eyes open. If you want Trump’s Supreme Court nominees, vote for Hogan. Because that’s what you’ll be getting. Not “moderation”. Trump’s SC nominees.

This is all based on the premise that Trump wins and that a liberal justice retires/dies during this presumed Trump presidency. To the best of all of our knowledge Sotomayor, Kagan and Brown Jackson are not in ill health, nor are they likely to retire during a hypothetical Trump presidency. Trump replacing say, Clarence Thomas, doesn’t change anything it keeps the status quo, so I would only consider the liberal justices in this scenario. I just find all of this too attenuated to force me into voting against Hogan. YMMV.

Do you want Biden to have the chance to potentially replace Thomas or Alito if they die or have to retire? And how would you feel if you voted for Hogan and his victory was the only thing holding that up?

Yeah, this isn’t swaying me. My vote for Larry Hogan isn’t what’s holding it up, it is the overall dysfunction in our political system. To be frank I think Congress needs an infusion of politicians like Larry Hogan to become somewhat functional again.

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

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To anyone reading this who hasn’t yet made up their mind: Hogan will vote for Trump’s Supreme Court nominees. Trone will vote for Biden’s Supreme Court nominees. That’s all you need to know. Please ignore the nonsense rationalizations put forward by the Hogan apologists and go into this election with your eyes open. If you want Trump’s Supreme Court nominees, vote for Hogan. Because that’s what you’ll be getting. Not “moderation”. Trump’s SC nominees.

This is all based on the premise that Trump wins and that a liberal justice retires/dies during this presumed Trump presidency. To the best of all of our knowledge Sotomayor, Kagan and Brown Jackson are not in ill health, nor are they likely to retire during a hypothetical Trump presidency. Trump replacing say, Clarence Thomas, doesn’t change anything it keeps the status quo, so I would only consider the liberal justices in this scenario. I just find all of this too attenuated to force me into voting against Hogan. YMMV.

Do you want Biden to have the chance to potentially replace Thomas or Alito if they die or have to retire? And how would you feel if you voted for Hogan and his victory was the only thing holding that up?

Yeah, this isn’t swaying me. My vote for Larry Hogan isn’t what’s holding it up, it is the overall dysfunction in our political system. To be frank I think Congress needs an infusion of politicians like Larry Hogan to become somewhat functional again.

Well, no, it's not, because you haven't voted for him yet, and he hasn't been elected yet.

However, your vote for Larry Hogan, if he gets elected, will contribute to the overall dysfunction in our political system.

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

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To anyone reading this who hasn’t yet made up their mind: Hogan will vote for Trump’s Supreme Court nominees. Trone will vote for Biden’s Supreme Court nominees. That’s all you need to know. Please ignore the nonsense rationalizations put forward by the Hogan apologists and go into this election with your eyes open. If you want Trump’s Supreme Court nominees, vote for Hogan. Because that’s what you’ll be getting. Not “moderation”. Trump’s SC nominees.

This is all based on the premise that Trump wins and that a liberal justice retires/dies during this presumed Trump presidency. To the best of all of our knowledge Sotomayor, Kagan and Brown Jackson are not in ill health, nor are they likely to retire during a hypothetical Trump presidency. Trump replacing say, Clarence Thomas, doesn’t change anything it keeps the status quo, so I would only consider the liberal justices in this scenario. I just find all of this too attenuated to force me into voting against Hogan. YMMV.

Are people who can't remember 2016 already old enough to vote?

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand. I keep reading about voting for Hogan as dangerous for the Senate because of the majority .Are there any other seats that are potentially flipping either one way or the other?

I am voting for Hogan, but I want to understand why people who like him are voting for him because of the Senate.

And if you’re curious, I’m not a Trumper. In fact, I loath him and I’m voting for Biden.

I don’t know which senate seats could potentially be flipped this election cycle, but I think it’s a very safe assumption that if Hogan wins, Republicans will have a senate majority. That means that if Biden also wins, his Supreme Court nominees (if there is an opening) will never even get a vote, just like Merrick Garland. Then Republicans will likely win the midterms and a golden opportunity to reshape the SC will evaporate forever.

If both Hogan and Trump win, please don’t fool yourself into thinking that “moderate” Larry Hogan will courageously stand up to Trump and MAGA and block Trump’s SC nominees. I absolutely guarantee you that this will not happen. He will wither under the pressure and fall in line just like every Republican before him and Trump’s nominee will be on the Court for the next 40 years.

Remember when Kavanaugh looked Susan Collins in the eye?

I don’t know what this means. Please explain.

“When I met with Justice Kavanaugh before his confirmation hearings, he looked me in the eye and said that he considered Roe v. Wade the law of the land,” she said. “Nothing in his confirmation hearings suggested that he would ever be less than trustworthy with a woman.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/susan-collins-shocked-that-brett-kavanaugh-would-ever-lie-to-a-woman


Hogan will likewise fall into line and vote to confirm any republican nominee

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

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To anyone reading this who hasn’t yet made up their mind: Hogan will vote for Trump’s Supreme Court nominees. Trone will vote for Biden’s Supreme Court nominees. That’s all you need to know. Please ignore the nonsense rationalizations put forward by the Hogan apologists and go into this election with your eyes open. If you want Trump’s Supreme Court nominees, vote for Hogan. Because that’s what you’ll be getting. Not “moderation”. Trump’s SC nominees.

This is all based on the premise that Trump wins and that a liberal justice retires/dies during this presumed Trump presidency. To the best of all of our knowledge Sotomayor, Kagan and Brown Jackson are not in ill health, nor are they likely to retire during a hypothetical Trump presidency. Trump replacing say, Clarence Thomas, doesn’t change anything it keeps the status quo, so I would only consider the liberal justices in this scenario. I just find all of this too attenuated to force me into voting against Hogan. YMMV.

Do you want Biden to have the chance to potentially replace Thomas or Alito if they die or have to retire? And how would you feel if you voted for Hogan and his victory was the only thing holding that up?

Yeah, this isn’t swaying me. My vote for Larry Hogan isn’t what’s holding it up, it is the overall dysfunction in our political system. To be frank I think Congress needs an infusion of politicians like Larry Hogan to become somewhat functional again.

Well, no, it's not, because you haven't voted for him yet, and he hasn't been elected yet.

However, your vote for Larry Hogan, if he gets elected, will contribute to the overall dysfunction in our political system.

Great that is your opinion! It is not realistic to assume Republicans will never win an election. Hogan is a sane human and one the republican party needs to get them away from the inbred MAGAs

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Can someone please lay out what exactly was positive about Hogan as a governor and how this is enough to carry him to the Senate? He screwed up enough in my view between the Purple line and the red line and nothing really notable during his term. The map is very bad for democrats and the current conservative Supreme Court is enough of a deterrent to electing Republicans who could hold up new Democratic nominees. It feels like there are just conservative shills all over this board.

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

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To anyone reading this who hasn’t yet made up their mind: Hogan will vote for Trump’s Supreme Court nominees. Trone will vote for Biden’s Supreme Court nominees. That’s all you need to know. Please ignore the nonsense rationalizations put forward by the Hogan apologists and go into this election with your eyes open. If you want Trump’s Supreme Court nominees, vote for Hogan. Because that’s what you’ll be getting. Not “moderation”. Trump’s SC nominees.

This is all based on the premise that Trump wins and that a liberal justice retires/dies during this presumed Trump presidency. To the best of all of our knowledge Sotomayor, Kagan and Brown Jackson are not in ill health, nor are they likely to retire during a hypothetical Trump presidency. Trump replacing say, Clarence Thomas, doesn’t change anything it keeps the status quo, so I would only consider the liberal justices in this scenario. I just find all of this too attenuated to force me into voting against Hogan. YMMV.

Do you want Biden to have the chance to potentially replace Thomas or Alito if they die or have to retire? And how would you feel if you voted for Hogan and his victory was the only thing holding that up?

Yeah, this isn’t swaying me. My vote for Larry Hogan isn’t what’s holding it up, it is the overall dysfunction in our political system. To be frank I think Congress needs an infusion of politicians like Larry Hogan to become somewhat functional again.

Larry Hogan will do as he is told by Trump and MAGA when his vote is needed. Why is that a good thing?

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

+1

To anyone reading this who hasn’t yet made up their mind: Hogan will vote for Trump’s Supreme Court nominees. Trone will vote for Biden’s Supreme Court nominees. That’s all you need to know. Please ignore the nonsense rationalizations put forward by the Hogan apologists and go into this election with your eyes open. If you want Trump’s Supreme Court nominees, vote for Hogan. Because that’s what you’ll be getting. Not “moderation”. Trump’s SC nominees.

This is all based on the premise that Trump wins and that a liberal justice retires/dies during this presumed Trump presidency. To the best of all of our knowledge Sotomayor, Kagan and Brown Jackson are not in ill health, nor are they likely to retire during a hypothetical Trump presidency. Trump replacing say, Clarence Thomas, doesn’t change anything it keeps the status quo, so I would only consider the liberal justices in this scenario. I just find all of this too attenuated to force me into voting against Hogan. YMMV.

Do you want Biden to have the chance to potentially replace Thomas or Alito if they die or have to retire? And how would you feel if you voted for Hogan and his victory was the only thing holding that up?

Yeah, this isn’t swaying me. My vote for Larry Hogan isn’t what’s holding it up, it is the overall dysfunction in our political system. To be frank I think Congress needs an infusion of politicians like Larry Hogan to become somewhat functional again.

Well, no, it's not, because you haven't voted for him yet, and he hasn't been elected yet.

However, your vote for Larry Hogan, if he gets elected, will contribute to the overall dysfunction in our political system.

Great that is your opinion! It is not realistic to assume Republicans will never win an election. Hogan is a sane human and one the republican party needs to get them away from the inbred MAGAs

Larry Hogan is a Republican who will vote with the Republican Party, and the Republican Party is the MAGA Party. The MAGAs have taken over the Republican Party.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please lay out what exactly was positive about Hogan as a governor and how this is enough to carry him to the Senate? He screwed up enough in my view between the Purple line and the red line and nothing really notable during his term. The map is very bad for democrats and the current conservative Supreme Court is enough of a deterrent to electing Republicans who could hold up new Democratic nominees. It feels like there are just conservative shills all over this board.

The Hogan supporters here are saying that they like Hogan because he’ll hem and haw a little bit before he votes to confirm Trump’s SC nominees.

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

+1

To anyone reading this who hasn’t yet made up their mind: Hogan will vote for Trump’s Supreme Court nominees. Trone will vote for Biden’s Supreme Court nominees. That’s all you need to know. Please ignore the nonsense rationalizations put forward by the Hogan apologists and go into this election with your eyes open. If you want Trump’s Supreme Court nominees, vote for Hogan. Because that’s what you’ll be getting. Not “moderation”. Trump’s SC nominees.

This is all based on the premise that Trump wins and that a liberal justice retires/dies during this presumed Trump presidency. To the best of all of our knowledge Sotomayor, Kagan and Brown Jackson are not in ill health, nor are they likely to retire during a hypothetical Trump presidency. Trump replacing say, Clarence Thomas, doesn’t change anything it keeps the status quo, so I would only consider the liberal justices in this scenario. I just find all of this too attenuated to force me into voting against Hogan. YMMV.

Do you want Biden to have the chance to potentially replace Thomas or Alito if they die or have to retire? And how would you feel if you voted for Hogan and his victory was the only thing holding that up?

Yeah, this isn’t swaying me. My vote for Larry Hogan isn’t what’s holding it up, it is the overall dysfunction in our political system. To be frank I think Congress needs an infusion of politicians like Larry Hogan to become somewhat functional again.

Well, no, it's not, because you haven't voted for him yet, and he hasn't been elected yet.

However, your vote for Larry Hogan, if he gets elected, will contribute to the overall dysfunction in our political system.

Great that is your opinion! It is not realistic to assume Republicans will never win an election. Hogan is a sane human and one the republican party needs to get them away from the inbred MAGAs

You know, a really good way to do this would be to run against Trump for the Republican presidential nomination. As a 2-term governor, he had the perfect amount of experience. Yet he ran away from the fight. Larry Hogan does not give a damn about making the Republican Party more moderate. He’s just an opportunist.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please lay out what exactly was positive about Hogan as a governor and how this is enough to carry him to the Senate? He screwed up enough in my view between the Purple line and the red line and nothing really notable during his term. The map is very bad for democrats and the current conservative Supreme Court is enough of a deterrent to electing Republicans who could hold up new Democratic nominees. It feels like there are just conservative shills all over this board.

The Hogan supporters here are saying that they like Hogan because he’ll hem and haw a little bit before he votes to confirm Trump’s SC nominees.

OMG this. Susan Collins 2 Electric Bugaloo.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please lay out what exactly was positive about Hogan as a governor and how this is enough to carry him to the Senate? He screwed up enough in my view between the Purple line and the red line and nothing really notable during his term. The map is very bad for democrats and the current conservative Supreme Court is enough of a deterrent to electing Republicans who could hold up new Democratic nominees. It feels like there are just conservative shills all over this board.

The Hogan supporters here are saying that they like Hogan because he’ll hem and haw a little bit before he votes to confirm Trump’s SC nominees.

No, we are saying that these hypothetical Trump SC nominees aren’t enough to convince us we have to vote for Alsobrooks (who I actually do think is great and would vote for if Hogan weren’t running) or Trone. The most likely next departures from the SC are Thomas and Alito, so Trump picking their successor isn’t really changing the makeup of the court. Larry Hogan is also an adult at a time where there are far too few adults in Congress who are pragmatic and want to get something done other than just screaming into the echo chamber.

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand. I keep reading about voting for Hogan as dangerous for the Senate because of the majority .Are there any other seats that are potentially flipping either one way or the other?

I am voting for Hogan, but I want to understand why people who like him are voting for him because of the Senate.

And if you’re curious, I’m not a Trumper. In fact, I loath him and I’m voting for Biden.

You loathe Trump, but you're going to vote for a person that will work to enable Trump in implementing his policies if Trump is elected? That makes a whole lot of sense.

I swear to God I don't understand what is going on in people's heads.

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand. I keep reading about voting for Hogan as dangerous for the Senate because of the majority .Are there any other seats that are potentially flipping either one way or the other?

I am voting for Hogan, but I want to understand why people who like him are voting for him because of the Senate.

And if you’re curious, I’m not a Trumper. In fact, I loath him and I’m voting for Biden.

You loathe Trump, but you're going to vote for a person that will work to enable Trump in implementing his policies if Trump is elected? That makes a whole lot of sense.

I swear to God I don't understand what is going on in people's heads.

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