Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Many fail to understand that there can be conservative and democrat within the same household. My sister is a democrat amongst all of our conservative family members. The shooters family is conservative, but his father said he was concerned about his son encase he had become “ full of hate”. He had a family dinner where he mentioned Charlie Kirk coming to the Utah college and how he hated him for his beliefs. Make no mistake, the “ full of hate” was because he was a leftist.

I just heard your vertebrae break from that reach.

AGAIN, people incapable of nuance, there is a faction FURTHER right than Charlie Kirk who hated him too. Hating Charlie Kirk is not exclusive to those left of him.

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Anonymous wrote:He wasn’t a Democrat.
He wasn’t a Muslim.
He wasn’t an atheist.
He wasn’t an “illegal.”
He wasn’t a Jew.
He wasn’t the French (and let’s be honest, America always loves blaming the French).

He was ours.

A homegrown, red-blooded, flag-waving domestic terrorist.

The monster we raised, fed a steady diet of rage and conspiracy, and then acted surprised when he pulled the trigger.

Thank god social media enlightened him to do the good work that needed to be done.

Time to go long Discord stock

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Anonymous wrote:Trump has been itching to use this as an excuse to wreak vengeance on Dems. What’s he going to do now that the narrative isn’t so convenient?

They’re inventing a new narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:It's looking like this was an extreme right winger who thought Kirk wasn't right wing enough.

I called it here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/2370/1291384.page#30770208

According to the bullet scribbling, he was Antifa.

He was a gun-loving Republican Mormon.

Antifa.

Saying it over and over doesn't make it so, not when the overwhelming evidence shows otherwise. It's been shown the full context of the bullet scratching is a bunch of online RPG references. But keep ignoring that.

You’re delusional. He’s left winged antifa type.

Clearly the updated MAGA talking points haven't come out yet. You may want to take a break until you get your new marching orders.

LOL all their speculations and blames landed solidly on themselves. Hard to swallow.

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Anonymous wrote:This dude is a chronically online type. He is no normal democrat or republican. I would almost be inclined to calm him an accelerationist (not sure if that’s the right term) more than anything else.

There are definitely people who go after young men online and try to radicalized them. The pepe stuff suggests this guy may have been involved with some incel stuff.

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What is a groyper?

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We all need to get guns, this is escalating so much and people are crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:For those questioning all the media coverage, it’s the first time an American has been publicly assassinated in the US for their political beliefs SINCE 1968. It’s a big deal.

Uh you’re forgetting the two legislators in MN.

That was not a public assassination. It took place in a private home.

What difference does THAT make?

Public assassinations tend to have a greater impact than private ones.

Public assassinations occur in front of witnesses or are captured by media, which amplifies the shock. The public setting turns the act into a spectacle, symbolizing a direct attack on shared values or leadership, which resonates widely and instantly. Private killings lack this immediate, communal exposure.

A public killing violates the sense of safety in shared spaces, making it feel like an attack on the public itself. Private assassinations feel more isolated, limiting the visceral sense of collective threat.

Hence the media coverage and why many are feeling this event deeply. It’s the first political assassination the public has witnessed in the US since 1968.

Correct. It’s terrorism as well

Why is it terrorism? One dude (Kirk), with a questionable reputation, was shot. He happened to have a political following, be wonder bread white, and was a YouTube influencer. Shooter is yet to be identified but appears to be another white American man of roughly the same age bracket. He used a gun, which Kirk politicized as a 2A right even if it might innocents get killed. And you say Kirk’s killing is terrorism. We fly flags at half mast and the body flies in AF2.

George Floyd is black. He also has a questionable reputation, but he was minding his on business. He was suspected of being high but quite happy. White cops detain him, and put him a chokehold (unprovoked) until he dies. People are outraged, get angry, and protest. MAGA (and probably PP) lose their mind, but they don’t view this killing as terrorism. Actually, the protestors are terrorists.

See any irony in all of that?

Floyd was not minding any business out in public, high on multiple drugs, driving high, fighting and running from police (store called that in), and not paying for items at the store.

Then BLM hoax was formed, burned down Kenosha, blm bought a mansion with the donations, harassed cities and restaurants for months after Covid, then went bankrupt.

Of course assassinating the keynote political speaker in public at a crowded event is terrorism and created immediate and widespread terror.

The police weren’t even called until after Floyd left the store. Floyd was sitting in a parked car when police arrived.

Correct, he was high, didn’t pay, got in an suv vehicle drivers seat high with two friends, store called police about theft and drug/driving risk, police came minutes later, Floyd refused to talk and ran off, Floyd refused to get in police SU?, Floyd flopped down on the ground to avoid getting into police vehicle, Floyd was restrained on the ground, Floyd died.
Nationwide BLM chaos, arson, thefts, threats, looting, deaths ensued; autopsy and trials ensued.

So you are saying it was ok for the cop to kill Floyd?

Cop didn’t intend to kill Floyd.
He was restraining Floyd, a very large man, and then everyone was going to get him into the SUV and back to the station.
Meanwhile Floyd was high on a mixture of drugs (unknown to others new to the scene), refusing to cooperate, flipping out, and started having medical issues or hyperventilating (we now know).

Didn’t look up autopsy or trial but pretty sure BLM got what they want prosecuting the police officers and defunding the police nationwide. Looting, arson, and other BLM crime aside those two years.

Watch the video of how long the cop was on floyds neck while people around him were begging him to stop. The man was convicted of murder and rightfully so. Why are you justifying it?

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Anonymous wrote:This is problem with young men. Not politics. Young men are feeling moved to assassinate and shoot up schools when they take grievances about something or someone. Maybe for attention, send a message, need world wide validation? Social media and sensationalism is part to blame. It isn’t any individuals politics though.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs will slither away from this thread now.

Except they haven't. They'll bend reality any direction they have to in order to deflect from the rotten nature of their political culture.

The shooter is more complicated and espouses both left and right ideology.

But because he wrote on the casings antifa slogans , Antifa could be designated a terrorist organization. He will be used to target left winged organizations.

The right wing was going after the ghost-like "antifa" since they first heard of / invented it.

It doesn’t matter how much you dismiss this. Trump is going to go after antifa. this is the excuse to label it as a terrorist organization. He and his alllies have been wanting to do this his last term.

According the Gov, inscribed on one of the casings was "catch this fascist". Should Trump say "yeah, we're good bro, nothing to see here?"

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Anonymous wrote:This dude is a chronically online type. He is no normal democrat or republican. I would almost be inclined to calm him an accelerationist (not sure if that’s the right term) more than anything else.

I mean, Charlie Kirk was chronically online, too. That's where he drew his audience from.

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Anonymous wrote:This is problem with young men. Not politics. Young men are feeling moved to assassinate and shoot up schools when they take grievances about something or someone. Maybe for attention, send a message, need world wide validation? Social media and sensationalism is part to blame. It isn’t any individuals politics though.

OR hear me out...this is a problem with access to GUNS

Gun access has been constant throughout history. These brazen public murders to send messages haven’t been

That is completely not true. What?

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs will slither away from this thread now.

Except they haven't. They'll bend reality any direction they have to in order to deflect from the rotten nature of their political culture.

The shooter is more complicated and espouses both left and right ideology.

But because he wrote on the casings antifa slogans , Antifa could be designated a terrorist organization. He will be used to target left winged organizations.

The right wing was going after the ghost-like "antifa" since they first heard of / invented it.

The right wing didn’t invent “antifa”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_City_Antifa

https://rosecityantifa.org/

Disinformation. You’re so dense you can’t even spot it when you see it.

Huh? German communists invented it in the 1930s.

Here's a socialist friendly website to show it

https://jacobin.com/2017/05/antifascist-movements-hitler-nazis-kpd-spd-germany-cold-war

That’s “antifascist”. The article shows no evidence of the abbreviation “antifa” being used back then. Germans love long words.

Now you're just trolling :p

Nitpicking, not trolling,

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Anonymous wrote:Could young people be resorting to violence, because they feel like more legitimate checks and balances in society have fallen away? So they take on some mantle of rescuer, because the institutions that used to enforce our laws/values are so broken?

(Not justifying violence in any way, just wondering if some of these wayward youths tell themselves this??)

No because that’s all untrue. That’s all echo chamber nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump has been itching to use this as an excuse to wreak vengeance on Dems. What’s he going to do now that the narrative isn’t so convenient?

They’re inventing a new narrative.

They don’t need to. What Robison wrote on the bullets is enough.