Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we now need to know each murderer’s politics now? Can’t we agree that murderers are bad. (And often mentally ill?)

I mean, people have been here blaming trans people and violent liberals for days. But now it comes out this kid is a hard core right-wing nut job "oh don't think about politics"

Huh?

Wasn’t that the Minnesota school shooter? A trans young adult? Prob mental illness at play too.

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Anonymous wrote:uh oh, looks like Rs might have to eat crow on this one.

Don’t worry, they will still blame Biden, antifa, Soros, BLM…..

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Anonymous wrote:Not Black.
Not Trans.
Not Muslim.
Not an Immigrant.
Not a Democrat.

Meet Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson.
A white Christian, Conservative, Republican male with a gun... again.

He was not a conservative. He was a leftist who said he hated Charlie Kirk and everything he stood for.

Laura Loomer hated Charlie Kirk too. Are you saying she is a leftist?

And Nick Fuentes? Is it leftist to be a mysogynistic white supremicist these days? He was engaged in the most visible battle, the Groyper War, with Charlie Kirk. Is he a leftist, too?

They don’t know anything about Nick Fuentes. That’s the problem. That man changed his mind like a billion times. He was a white supremacist, then not. He hated black people and Jews, then he didn’t. He was a loud mouth to get views and formed to whatever made him the most traction and money.

who is "they"?

the point is, Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk. And he most definitely is not a leftist.

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Anonymous wrote:It's looking like this was an extreme right winger who thought Kirk wasn't right wing enough.

I called it here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/2370/1291384.page#30770208

According to the bullet scribbling, he was Antifa.

He was a gun-loving Republican Mormon.

Antifa.

Saying it over and over doesn't make it so, not when the overwhelming evidence shows otherwise. It's been shown the full context of the bullet scratching is a bunch of online RPG references. But keep ignoring that.

You’re delusional. He’s left winged antifa type.

Clearly the updated MAGA talking points haven't come out yet. You may want to take a break until you get your new marching orders.

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This dude is a chronically online type. He is no normal democrat or republican. I would almost be inclined to calm him an accelerationist (not sure if that’s the right term) more than anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:It's looking like this was an extreme right winger who thought Kirk wasn't right wing enough.

I called it here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/2370/1291384.page#30770208

According to the bullet scribbling, he was Antifa.

And according to a slew of social media evidence, he was right wing. But you tell yourself whatever need to feel better.

Doesn’t matter what the social media evidence is. People can appear one thing and believe another. The fact that he wrote those slogans on the bullets he loaded to kill Kirk speaks more about his beliefs and intentions.

But you can go ahead and ignore evidence to fit your narrative. Nobody is going to stop you.

Uh, no, it does matter what the social media evidence is. Even if it doesn't fit your narrative. And one of the slogans on the bullet was anti-Gay, which is not in lime with Antifa.

Its 2025. Bullets are the new social media.

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Anonymous wrote:Many fail to understand that there can be conservative and democrat within the same household. My sister is a democrat amongst all of our conservative family members. The shooters family is conservative, but his father said he was concerned about his son encase he had become “ full of hate”. He had a family dinner where he mentioned Charlie Kirk coming to the Utah college and how he hated him for his beliefs. Make no mistake, the “ full of hate” was because he was a leftist.

But does your sister still live in the house with you? Most leftists raised in right wing families leave the home ASAP. Usually also the state, if the stat is Utah, South Dakota, North Dakota or Montana.

Yes. She still lives with my parents and her brother. Very much a leftist and my parents have always been staunchly conservative.

Well, unless she's a murderer that's not quite relevant. I doubt she is.

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Anonymous wrote:Many fail to understand that there can be conservative and democrat within the same household. My sister is a democrat amongst all of our conservative family members. The shooters family is conservative, but his father said he was concerned about his son encase he had become “ full of hate”. He had a family dinner where he mentioned Charlie Kirk coming to the Utah college and how he hated him for his beliefs. Make no mistake, the “ full of hate” was because he was a leftist.

Is your sister a shooter? Did your family teach you "Thou shalt not kill"? What are the christians teaching their kids?

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Well nutters, you still think it was a false flag operation? Lol

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Anonymous wrote:This is problem with young men. Not politics. Young men are feeling moved to assassinate and shoot up schools when they take grievances about something or someone. Maybe for attention, send a message, need world wide validation? Social media and sensationalism is part to blame. It isn’t any individuals politics though.

OR hear me out...this is a problem with access to GUNS

Gun access has been constant throughout history. These brazen public murders to send messages haven’t been

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Anonymous wrote:lol the shooter wore a Trump costume for Halloween a few years ago

Right. As satire. This is clearly another case of Democratic domestic terrorism.

His whole family and community is Republican. It wasn't satire.

It's about Epstein. Just like the Butler shooter.

You think a 22 yr old cares about the Epstein files, so much that he moved to murder someone that has nothing to do with it?

Yes. That's exactly what happened in Butler.

Kirk was a big proponent of releasing the files until Trump asked him to stop. For a true believer that was a big problem and made Kirk part of the cover up.

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Anonymous wrote:This is problem with young men. Not politics. Young men are feeling moved to assassinate and shoot up schools when they take grievances about something or someone. Maybe for attention, send a message, need world wide validation? Social media and sensationalism is part to blame. It isn’t any individuals politics though.

OR hear me out...this is a problem with access to GUNS

No, man, you need access to guns because that's what the tyrannical government is scared about. The real problem is not enough access to guns, which results in fewer good guys with guns.

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Anonymous wrote:Many fail to understand that there can be conservative and democrat within the same household. My sister is a democrat amongst all of our conservative family members. The shooters family is conservative, but his father said he was concerned about his son encase he had become “ full of hate”. He had a family dinner where he mentioned Charlie Kirk coming to the Utah college and how he hated him for his beliefs. Make no mistake, the “ full of hate” was because he was a leftist.

Laura Loomer and Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk's beliefs. Are they leftists? Can you get out of your bubble for just a minute to explore that there are people to the right of Charlie Kirk?

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Anonymous wrote:Many fail to understand that there can be conservative and democrat within the same household. My sister is a democrat amongst all of our conservative family members. The shooters family is conservative, but his father said he was concerned about his son encase he had become “ full of hate”. He had a family dinner where he mentioned Charlie Kirk coming to the Utah college and how he hated him for his beliefs. Make no mistake, the “ full of hate” was because he was a leftist.

The more you say this, the less convincing it sounds. If he were a "leftist" why haven't they said that? Why do they keep saying "political"? All these MAGA family members who have enough of a conscience and sense of right and wrong to tell him to turn himself in, wouldn't they want to pin the blame on the leftists??

+1. NY Post has quotes from people who know him that speak to his leaning, but they only say he was increasingly "political." Why isn't the NY Post going on to say which way, if they clearly got quotes and spoke to people and asked this?

He is far right. They would say clearly if friends said he was left and they have asked this question! The fact that they are withholding reporting here makes it obvious he leaned far right.

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Anonymous wrote:So Republicans are saying he can't be a Republican because Republicans like and support fascism?

Yeah. They are really committed to next level mental gymnastics to avoid any sense of responsibility for what they have created.

Show me a republican member of antifa.

Again, are you saying that republicans support fascism?

You might be right, I don’t know.