Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I am also a mom to two boys. I am also ENRAGED! What I told my dh is that I don't want my kids joining a fraternity.

Also I have spent the last 2 days all over twitter, reading everything possible, and making donations to multiple candidates for midterms who are not in my state.

I can't sit by and let this go anymore. Done!!!

This whole situation is not okay. NOT OKAY.

Fully agree with you. It's madness.

I called my son and warned him to be careful spending time with women who could turn out to be unstable.
I cannot imagine having a false allegation thrown at him.

One of the small ‘s’ sad things that happens every time there is a public accusation of sexual assault is that we have to listen to women who have so fully internalized the misogyny they were taught at the knee that their instinct is to blame the women. It’s just sad.

Yeah. Or you could just tell your son to be polite, respectful, always ask for consent, and never approach a woman who is intoxicated except to help.

Sure. And then that intoxicated woman will claim he raped her the next day because he helped her back to her dorm room or gave her a ride home. There is no winning.

Serious question - Why don't parents advice their daughters to not drink? For one, it's the law - no drinking under 21 (just in case someone didn't know that) and a drunk woman attracts pervs and monsters. Is it because, parents drink at home a lot and kids try to emulate them later in life? We are non-drinkers so trying to understand..

Serious question - why don’t parents advise their sons not to drink and explain how being drunk can lead them to assault women?

Serious question - why don’t parents advise their sons that they should never have sex with a woman who has been drinking because drunk girls can’t legally consent?

Serious question - why don’t parents tell their daughters that no matter what the circumstances, if their daughter is sexually assaulted they will support her even if she was drinking or doing drugs or at a party or with boys or unsupervised?

Serious question - how can it be 2018 and people are still blaming girls for causing their own rape by drinking? This is the equivalent of saying girls who dress sexy are asking for it.

Serious question - Do you think women should have any responsibility or just men?

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Anonymous wrote:I really think Republicans are idiots for not convincing someone to pull this or straight up taking a vote to fail out and move on. They don't have too much time left before Jan 3. If they'd cut ties last week they'd already have a new nom and they'd have ACB or Hardiman well on their way to confirmation.

Instead they will crash and burn on this over the next week only to have trump stew and wallow before making another selection... who knows it could be mid October before they even have a new nominee! Senators will have to be in DC voting on a SCJ instead of campaigning against the betos of the country giving up key time.

It just seems incredibly stupid and shortsighted for people given the gift of an unexpected second court nominee.

Perhaps, but why would they let an innocent man (because we *are* innocent until proven guilty, right?) take the fall? That's more important right now. He should have a chance to be heard, and not just withdraw with his tail between his legs. I think this is an important precedent for anyone accused - with no evidence to support the accusation. There must be a fair hearing. Otherwise, I could point my finger at anyone I wanted and claim they assaulted me.

Go for it. Point your fingers and accuse.

The truth is that supreme court nominees have been rejected for far less. ALL OF THEM WHO HAVE BEEN REJECTED IN THE PAST WERE REJECTED FOR LESS!

Gang rape? Seriously. Supreme court nominees MUST BE without question, without doubts. Do we expect they have the same politics as the president who nominates them? YES. Do we expect them to have open and honest financial records (K. does not)? YES. He was a crappy nominee before this, honestly. No one DESERVES a seat on the supreme court. NO ONE DESERVES IT.

Wow, simmer down. He has not been alleged to have taken part in any rapes, gang or otherwise, so you can shut that down right now. These are all allegations against him - with no corroborating witnesses. You can't simply expect people to make claims like that, 30+ years later, and be taken seriously. If you do, then you need your head examined.

He absolutely has been alleged to have taken part in a gang rape. Don't you read the news?

You may have read this in the news, but silly you -- you still take the news seriously? The allegations promoted by Avenetti do NOT allege that Kavanaugh engaged in rape, only that he was present at parties where it happened. The accuser, a college student, claims that she went to ten high school parties where gang rape was happening, but she didn't say a word. Until now.

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Anonymous wrote:Sex crimes prosecutor (former head of NY Special Victims Unit) is on TV and notes that one of the marks of credibility of Ford's story is that she puts Mark Judge in the room. Why would she name a second person who could instantly discredit her story if it were lying? It's a shame that the GOP Senators don't want to hear the truth.

Brett Kavanaugh has steadily risen through the ranks of the judiciary over years of hard work. He's had six FBI investigations, none of which turned up anything. If these women had something to bring forward concerning him, why didn't they do so years ago? It's been asked before and none of you have an answer, just more B.S. All of a sudden, when it looks like he will be confirmed, these women come out of the woodwork. Very, very suspicious.

I mean yeah. No one would bring up anything before because he wasn’t going for SCOTUS.

And reminder: Gorusch had nothing like this because he was clean. This guy isn’t. So it’s not suspicious if you take that into consideration.

Also: FBI doesn’t investigate sex crimes unless someone reports them. Any schmuck would know that.

The point is, why didn't any of these women report their allegations as soon as Kavanaugh was nominated? And Ford's anonymous letter doesn't count. She could have come forward but chose not to. And the other women, dredging up their fuzzy, unclear memories NOW, of all times? Give us all a break. If they had true allegations against him, they could easily have reported them and had them investigated over the summer. They chose not to. Moving on...

Because they suspected they would be treated abusively if they came forward.

And they were right.

Yes, they've garnered so much more respect by waiting until the absolute last minute.

[Anonymous]

Anyone else seeing these Judicial Crisis Network ads on TV? They are blanketing the airways in DC. Kavanaugh is such a beta lol

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Anonymous wrote:I knew so many Kavanaughs in prep school and college.

Ever-present chip on shoulder.
Unfriendly to most guys except own bro' bunch.
Mean toward most girls, except when drunk and then became touchey-feeley, hopey-gropey, hokey-pokey, drapey-rapey.
Super friendly to girls of high status with rich parents and country club peerage.

Moms and dads -- look in the mirror -- in your quest for that Lax scholarship and Ivy League admit, are you raising the next Brett Kavanaugh??????

Is his wife from a wealthy background?

She is from Abilene, Texas and worked for many years for George Bush.

She went on after graduating from the University of Texas at Austin in 1997 to work for with then-Gov. Bush, who took her to Washington, D.C., after being elected president in 2000 to be his personal secretary.

She now earns $66,000 per year in annual salary as the "town manager" (aka newsletter distributor) for a "village" of 650 persons.

Yes, I feel really bad for her. She is 10 yrs younger than he is. She is not to blame. If I were here I would stop rolling over and insist on an investigation. No one wants to feel like they may have married a monster. No one.

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Anonymous wrote:Sex crimes prosecutor (former head of NY Special Victims Unit) is on TV and notes that one of the marks of credibility of Ford's story is that she puts Mark Judge in the room. Why would she name a second person who could instantly discredit her story if it were lying? It's a shame that the GOP Senators don't want to hear the truth.

Brett Kavanaugh has steadily risen through the ranks of the judiciary over years of hard work. He's had six FBI investigations, none of which turned up anything. If these women had something to bring forward concerning him, why didn't they do so years ago? It's been asked before and none of you have an answer, just more B.S. All of a sudden, when it looks like he will be confirmed, these women come out of the woodwork. Very, very suspicious.

I mean yeah. No one would bring up anything before because he wasn’t going for SCOTUS.

And reminder: Gorusch had nothing like this because he was clean. This guy isn’t. So it’s not suspicious if you take that into consideration.

Also: FBI doesn’t investigate sex crimes unless someone reports them. Any schmuck would know that.

The point is, why didn't any of these women report their allegations as soon as Kavanaugh was nominated? And Ford's anonymous letter doesn't count. She could have come forward but chose not to. And the other women, dredging up their fuzzy, unclear memories NOW, of all times? Give us all a break. If they had true allegations against him, they could easily have reported them and had them investigated over the summer. They chose not to. Moving on...

Because they suspected they would be treated abusively if they came forward.

And they were right.

+1 A trained prosecutor will be doing her best to discredit Ford tomorrow. People have dragged a fine tooth comb through her past. What woman would WANT to do that? It's victimizing her twice.

What do you call what has been done to Kavanaugh's life?? Good grief.

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Anonymous wrote:Sex crimes prosecutor (former head of NY Special Victims Unit) is on TV and notes that one of the marks of credibility of Ford's story is that she puts Mark Judge in the room. Why would she name a second person who could instantly discredit her story if it were lying? It's a shame that the GOP Senators don't want to hear the truth.

It's obvious why they don't want to get to the truth.

It's a disgrace. She says she expects the female prosecutor the GOP hired because they were too cowardly to question Ford was going to ask hundreds of questions about Ford's memories of that night to make her look unreliable, when all research shows that it's typical to have gaps in memory about traumatic events.

Oh, for God's sake. If they had allowed a group of male senators to question her, all hell would have broken out. Then you'd claim how unfair it is to have her questioned by all men. They were trying to do the right thing by having a female question her. Is there nothing you people won't pick apart?

Whose fault is it that all of the Republicans on the committee are old white men?

You clearly have no point, only the burning desire to argue. They did their best to make sure Ford would be more comfortable, by having a female question her. Get over yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:I am also a mom to two boys. I am also ENRAGED! What I told my dh is that I don't want my kids joining a fraternity.

Also I have spent the last 2 days all over twitter, reading everything possible, and making donations to multiple candidates for midterms who are not in my state.

I can't sit by and let this go anymore. Done!!!

This whole situation is not okay. NOT OKAY.

Fully agree with you. It's madness.

I called my son and warned him to be careful spending time with women who could turn out to be unstable.
I cannot imagine having a false allegation thrown at him.

One of the small ‘s’ sad things that happens every time there is a public accusation of sexual assault is that we have to listen to women who have so fully internalized the misogyny they were taught at the knee that their instinct is to blame the women. It’s just sad.

Yeah. Or you could just tell your son to be polite, respectful, always ask for consent, and never approach a woman who is intoxicated except to help.

Sure. And then that intoxicated woman will claim he raped her the next day because he helped her back to her dorm room or gave her a ride home. There is no winning.

Serious question - Why don't parents advice their daughters to not drink? For one, it's the law - no drinking under 21 (just in case someone didn't know that) and a drunk woman attracts pervs and monsters. Is it because, parents drink at home a lot and kids try to emulate them later in life? We are non-drinkers so trying to understand..

Serious question - why don’t parents advise their sons not to drink and explain how being drunk can lead them to assault women?

Serious question - why don’t parents advise their sons that they should never have sex with a woman who has been drinking because drunk girls can’t legally consent?

Serious question - why don’t parents tell their daughters that no matter what the circumstances, if their daughter is sexually assaulted they will support her even if she was drinking or doing drugs or at a party or with boys or unsupervised?

Serious question - how can it be 2018 and people are still blaming girls for causing their own rape by drinking? This is the equivalent of saying girls who dress sexy are asking for it.

Serious question - Do you think women should have any responsibility or just men?

Not just men, women have the same responsibilities as men. They also should not rape/grope/threaten/harass and they shouldn't do things like drug drinks so they can sexually abuse people. If alcohol turns them sexually aggressive, they should watch that if they're good people so they're not tempted to assault men or other women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I knew so many Kavanaughs in prep school and college.

Ever-present chip on shoulder.
Unfriendly to most guys except own bro' bunch.
Mean toward most girls, except when drunk and then became touchey-feeley, hopey-gropey, hokey-pokey, drapey-rapey.
Super friendly to girls of high status with rich parents and country club peerage.

Moms and dads -- look in the mirror -- in your quest for that Lax scholarship and Ivy League admit, are you raising the next Brett Kavanaugh??????

Is his wife from a wealthy background?

She is from Abilene, Texas and worked for many years for George Bush.

She went on after graduating from the University of Texas at Austin in 1997 to work for with then-Gov. Bush, who took her to Washington, D.C., after being elected president in 2000 to be his personal secretary.

She now earns $66,000 per year in annual salary as the "town manager" (aka newsletter distributor) for a "village" of 650 persons.

What's with your "quotation marks"? You can't bear to simply say what she does without having to put your typical sheen of disdain on it?

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What do you call what has been done to Kavanaugh's life?? Good grief.

This is like saying that if you run for president, looking at your past very carefully is an attack. Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:I really think Republicans are idiots for not convincing someone to pull this or straight up taking a vote to fail out and move on. They don't have too much time left before Jan 3. If they'd cut ties last week they'd already have a new nom and they'd have ACB or Hardiman well on their way to confirmation.

Instead they will crash and burn on this over the next week only to have trump stew and wallow before making another selection... who knows it could be mid October before they even have a new nominee! Senators will have to be in DC voting on a SCJ instead of campaigning against the betos of the country giving up key time.

It just seems incredibly stupid and shortsighted for people given the gift of an unexpected second court nominee.

Perhaps, but why would they let an innocent man (because we *are* innocent until proven guilty, right?) take the fall? That's more important right now. He should have a chance to be heard, and not just withdraw with his tail between his legs. I think this is an important precedent for anyone accused - with no evidence to support the accusation. There must be a fair hearing. Otherwise, I could point my finger at anyone I wanted and claim they assaulted me.

Go for it. Point your fingers and accuse.

The truth is that supreme court nominees have been rejected for far less. ALL OF THEM WHO HAVE BEEN REJECTED IN THE PAST WERE REJECTED FOR LESS!

Gang rape? Seriously. Supreme court nominees MUST BE without question, without doubts. Do we expect they have the same politics as the president who nominates them? YES. Do we expect them to have open and honest financial records (K. does not)? YES. He was a crappy nominee before this, honestly. No one DESERVES a seat on the supreme court. NO ONE DESERVES IT.

Wow, simmer down. He has not been alleged to have taken part in any rapes, gang or otherwise, so you can shut that down right now. These are all allegations against him - with no corroborating witnesses. You can't simply expect people to make claims like that, 30+ years later, and be taken seriously. If you do, then you need your head examined.

Of course that is the allegation. I guess you have a low opinion of what it takes to get on the supreme court. Rest of the US does not agree! You rape someone, you don't get to be there.

And I guess you're the judge and jury here? Nowhere has it been proven that he raped *anybody.* Just allegations, with zero corroborating witnesses. Disappointing, I'm sure.

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You clearly have no point, only the burning desire to argue. They did their best to make sure Ford would be more comfortable, by having a female question her. Get over yourself.

Lol!

There were no other women anywhere in the eastern US who were comfortable with words about sexual assault. They had to go all the way to Arizona to find a sex crimes prosecutor.
Yes I believe!

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Anonymous wrote:I am also a mom to two boys. I am also ENRAGED! What I told my dh is that I don't want my kids joining a fraternity.

Also I have spent the last 2 days all over twitter, reading everything possible, and making donations to multiple candidates for midterms who are not in my state.

I can't sit by and let this go anymore. Done!!!

This whole situation is not okay. NOT OKAY.

Fully agree with you. It's madness.

I called my son and warned him to be careful spending time with women who could turn out to be unstable.
I cannot imagine having a false allegation thrown at him.

One of the small ‘s’ sad things that happens every time there is a public accusation of sexual assault is that we have to listen to women who have so fully internalized the misogyny they were taught at the knee that their instinct is to blame the women. It’s just sad.

Yeah. Or you could just tell your son to be polite, respectful, always ask for consent, and never approach a woman who is intoxicated except to help.

Sure. And then that intoxicated woman will claim he raped her the next day because he helped her back to her dorm room or gave her a ride home. There is no winning.

Serious question - Why don't parents advice their daughters to not drink? For one, it's the law - no drinking under 21 (just in case someone didn't know that) and a drunk woman attracts pervs and monsters. Is it because, parents drink at home a lot and kids try to emulate them later in life? We are non-drinkers so trying to understand..

Serious question - why don’t parents advise their sons not to drink and explain how being drunk can lead them to assault women?

Serious question - why don’t parents advise their sons that they should never have sex with a woman who has been drinking because drunk girls can’t legally consent?

Serious question - why don’t parents tell their daughters that no matter what the circumstances, if their daughter is sexually assaulted they will support her even if she was drinking or doing drugs or at a party or with boys or unsupervised?

Serious question - how can it be 2018 and people are still blaming girls for causing their own rape by drinking? This is the equivalent of saying girls who dress sexy are asking for it.

Serious question - Do you think women should have any responsibility or just men?

No, silly! Women are just victims!

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Anonymous wrote:I really think Republicans are idiots for not convincing someone to pull this or straight up taking a vote to fail out and move on. They don't have too much time left before Jan 3. If they'd cut ties last week they'd already have a new nom and they'd have ACB or Hardiman well on their way to confirmation.

Instead they will crash and burn on this over the next week only to have trump stew and wallow before making another selection... who knows it could be mid October before they even have a new nominee! Senators will have to be in DC voting on a SCJ instead of campaigning against the betos of the country giving up key time.

It just seems incredibly stupid and shortsighted for people given the gift of an unexpected second court nominee.

Perhaps, but why would they let an innocent man (because we *are* innocent until proven guilty, right?) take the fall? That's more important right now. He should have a chance to be heard, and not just withdraw with his tail between his legs. I think this is an important precedent for anyone accused - with no evidence to support the accusation. There must be a fair hearing. Otherwise, I could point my finger at anyone I wanted and claim they assaulted me.

Go for it. Point your fingers and accuse.

The truth is that supreme court nominees have been rejected for far less. ALL OF THEM WHO HAVE BEEN REJECTED IN THE PAST WERE REJECTED FOR LESS!

Gang rape? Seriously. Supreme court nominees MUST BE without question, without doubts. Do we expect they have the same politics as the president who nominates them? YES. Do we expect them to have open and honest financial records (K. does not)? YES. He was a crappy nominee before this, honestly. No one DESERVES a seat on the supreme court. NO ONE DESERVES IT.

Wow, simmer down. He has not been alleged to have taken part in any rapes, gang or otherwise, so you can shut that down right now. These are all allegations against him - with no corroborating witnesses. You can't simply expect people to make claims like that, 30+ years later, and be taken seriously. If you do, then you need your head examined.

He absolutely has been alleged to have taken part in a gang rape. Don't you read the news?

You may have read this in the news, but silly you -- you still take the news seriously? The allegations promoted by Avenetti do NOT allege that Kavanaugh engaged in rape, only that he was present at parties where it happened. The accuser, a college student, claims that she went to ten high school parties where gang rape was happening, but she didn't say a word. Until now.

The allegation is that he participated in the drugging of women for the purpose of raping them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really think Republicans are idiots for not convincing someone to pull this or straight up taking a vote to fail out and move on. They don't have too much time left before Jan 3. If they'd cut ties last week they'd already have a new nom and they'd have ACB or Hardiman well on their way to confirmation.

Instead they will crash and burn on this over the next week only to have trump stew and wallow before making another selection... who knows it could be mid October before they even have a new nominee! Senators will have to be in DC voting on a SCJ instead of campaigning against the betos of the country giving up key time.

It just seems incredibly stupid and shortsighted for people given the gift of an unexpected second court nominee.

Perhaps, but why would they let an innocent man (because we *are* innocent until proven guilty, right?) take the fall? That's more important right now. He should have a chance to be heard, and not just withdraw with his tail between his legs. I think this is an important precedent for anyone accused - with no evidence to support the accusation. There must be a fair hearing. Otherwise, I could point my finger at anyone I wanted and claim they assaulted me.

Go for it. Point your fingers and accuse.

The truth is that supreme court nominees have been rejected for far less. ALL OF THEM WHO HAVE BEEN REJECTED IN THE PAST WERE REJECTED FOR LESS!

Gang rape? Seriously. Supreme court nominees MUST BE without question, without doubts. Do we expect they have the same politics as the president who nominates them? YES. Do we expect them to have open and honest financial records (K. does not)? YES. He was a crappy nominee before this, honestly. No one DESERVES a seat on the supreme court. NO ONE DESERVES IT.

Wow, simmer down. He has not been alleged to have taken part in any rapes, gang or otherwise, so you can shut that down right now. These are all allegations against him - with no corroborating witnesses. You can't simply expect people to make claims like that, 30+ years later, and be taken seriously. If you do, then you need your head examined.

He absolutely has been alleged to have taken part in a gang rape. Don't you read the news?

You may have read this in the news, but silly you -- you still take the news seriously? The allegations promoted by Avenetti do NOT allege that Kavanaugh engaged in rape, only that he was present at parties where it happened. The accuser, a college student, claims that she went to ten high school parties where gang rape was happening, but she didn't say a word. Until now.

Yes, gotta love someone who never bothered to report gang rape... until 30+ years later. And you're right, Kavanaugh was NOT alleged to have engaged in any rapes. But it's so much more dramatic to claim he did!