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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.


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There is no reason they cannot open next year--except that these people do not know how to plan anything.

Schools destroyed by tornadoes, etc, manage to open elsewhere under much more difficult circumstances.

They can open next year and have JV sports teams. It just takes someone being pro-active on this. Or, open with ninth grade and Freshman sports.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.


+1

There is no reason they cannot open next year--except that these people do not know how to plan anything.

Schools destroyed by tornadoes, etc, manage to open elsewhere under much more difficult circumstances.

They can open next year and have JV sports teams. It just takes someone being pro-active on this. Or, open with ninth grade and Freshman sports.


One challenge with this is that freshmen coming out of Carson have very different academic needs. You'll have the kids who should have gotten into TJ ready for higher-level math courses and kids needing remedial math to be ready for Algebra I. The smaller Western opens, the more challenging it becomes to build a schedule that accommodates these diverse requirements.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.


The plan now is to establish the boundaries, and announce them by June, and let those kids decide to go to their current school or the new school. Kids should not be out of boundary later on because the boundaries have been set. Honestly, if our ES is not moved, we will be exploring pupil placing to the new school. We want to move. (shrugs)
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Anonymous wrote:wtf they’re delaying the western school but going forward with the boundary moves?


Apparently.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.


The plan now is to establish the boundaries, and announce them by June, and let those kids decide to go to their current school or the new school. Kids should not be out of boundary later on because the boundaries have been set. Honestly, if our ES is not moved, we will be exploring pupil placing to the new school. We want to move. (shrugs)


Middle school students register for high school classes and audition for things like orchestra in January.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.


+1

There is no reason they cannot open next year--except that these people do not know how to plan anything.

Schools destroyed by tornadoes, etc, manage to open elsewhere under much more difficult circumstances.

They can open next year and have JV sports teams. It just takes someone being pro-active on this. Or, open with ninth grade and Freshman sports.


One challenge with this is that freshmen coming out of Carson have very different academic needs. You'll have the kids who should have gotten into TJ ready for higher-level math courses and kids needing remedial math to be ready for Algebra I. The smaller Western opens, the more challenging it becomes to build a schedule that accommodates these diverse requirements.


Plenty of kids come out of MS needing Algebra 2 across the region and a smaller number needing Pre Calc in 9th grade. Plenty of kids come out of MS needing third year foreign language because they start a language as 7th graders. They know this and those classes will be offered. They are preparing for 9th and 10th grade, so I am sure that they are aware that they have to offer classes for kids who were advanced in math in MS, so needing Pre Calc and Calculus. Most HS math teachers can teach Algebra, Geometry, and Calculus.

I would expect the class sizes to be smaller because of people opting to send their kid to the other HS option. The school knows that they will need the teachers to teach the classes as the school grows, so they bring in enough teachers to offer all the classes needed by the 9th and 10th graders, which will include the more advanced math and foreign language classes. There will be fewer sections, initially, so one teacher teaches a few more levels of language and math.

The one concern I have is the JI program coming out of FM would need a home at the new school. I suspect that they can meet that with a class in Japanese 3 and 4 and bringing the Japanese teacher from Carson over to the school for the Japanese classes.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.


The plan now is to establish the boundaries, and announce them by June, and let those kids decide to go to their current school or the new school. Kids should not be out of boundary later on because the boundaries have been set. Honestly, if our ES is not moved, we will be exploring pupil placing to the new school. We want to move. (shrugs)

I won't consider anything Reid says to be "the plan" until I see it in writing. She obviously just says whatever she needs to in order to make the people in front of her happy (or at least calm) at that time.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.


The plan now is to establish the boundaries, and announce them by June, and let those kids decide to go to their current school or the new school. Kids should not be out of boundary later on because the boundaries have been set. Honestly, if our ES is not moved, we will be exploring pupil placing to the new school. We want to move. (shrugs)


Middle school students register for high school classes and audition for things like orchestra in January.


Most of the classes that they will be signing up for are available at every HS, with the exception of AP classes at SLHS, their core classes will transfer easily enough. Electives might be tricky but I suspect not as tricky as we think. Audition recommendations can be provided to the new school and potentially adjusted based on what the school can offer for kids opting in to moving.

They are not moving Juniors and Seniors who have more class options and are going to be at the higher level orchestras and choirs and the like. That should simplify moving the info over to the school. And they are going to end up with a smaller class size because people are going to opt out of attending the new school. I know families who are 100% going to stay at the old school if they are moved. I wouldn't be surprised if only half the 8th grade class moved to the new school. That should make it easier for scheduling, in the sense that there are fewer schedules to process.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.


The plan now is to establish the boundaries, and announce them by June, and let those kids decide to go to their current school or the new school. Kids should not be out of boundary later on because the boundaries have been set. Honestly, if our ES is not moved, we will be exploring pupil placing to the new school. We want to move. (shrugs)

I won't consider anything Reid says to be "the plan" until I see it in writing. She obviously just says whatever she needs to in order to make the people in front of her happy (or at least calm) at that time.


Exactly this. She doesn’t vote on anything. I guarantee the school board did not know she was going to tell parents this “plan” and are now scrambling to put out messaging.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.


+1

There is no reason they cannot open next year--except that these people do not know how to plan anything.

Schools destroyed by tornadoes, etc, manage to open elsewhere under much more difficult circumstances.

They can open next year and have JV sports teams. It just takes someone being pro-active on this. Or, open with ninth grade and Freshman sports.


One challenge with this is that freshmen coming out of Carson have very different academic needs. You'll have the kids who should have gotten into TJ ready for higher-level math courses and kids needing remedial math to be ready for Algebra I. The smaller Western opens, the more challenging it becomes to build a schedule that accommodates these diverse requirements.


I don't see why anyone would choose to go there unless you are right across the street or something. It sounds like course offerings will be questionable. Will there be enough kids to form interest in typical clubs? Will sports kids bother with being bussed back to the base school for sports when they can just choose to stay at the base school to begin with? In truth, the longer they delay required boundaries, the longer it takes to fully establish the school.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if what Meren says is correct about delaying the opening, why didn't Reid mention that at the Saturday meeting?



Because the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing? Idk I’ve worked in plenty of dysfunctional organizations and this all seems pretty par for the course, lots of people making statements that may or may not be true and never checking with anyone else first, lots of abrupt deadline changes, lots of “well let’s fold in this slightly related but ultimately not core project into this larger project so we can fix both things at the same time” muddying the waters.


DP. It might be somewhere in the middle. At the Chantilly meeting, Reid said they still wanted to do a soft open in 2026 but they would focus on finishing the county wide study first before looking at the KAA boundaries early next year.


What is a “soft open” for a high school? How would people have any idea what they are signing their kids up for, other than that it wouldn’t have VHSL sports?

I’ve yet to see a compelling reason why they shouldn’t delay opening Western until it has three grades, with only juniors given an automatic option to remain at their current schools.


It sounded like they wanted to let anyone who wants to go there attend, whether in boundary or not. Not sure what grades specifically.


I understand but that’s still incoherent from a planning perspective. They gear up to offer the standard course of studies to 500 kids? What happens if you’re out of boundary and you send your kid to Western but they adopt boundaries later? Does your kid get booted?

The School Board needs to grow a spine and squelch Reid Charter before it opens.


+1

There is no reason they cannot open next year--except that these people do not know how to plan anything.

Schools destroyed by tornadoes, etc, manage to open elsewhere under much more difficult circumstances.

They can open next year and have JV sports teams. It just takes someone being pro-active on this. Or, open with ninth grade and Freshman sports.


One challenge with this is that freshmen coming out of Carson have very different academic needs. You'll have the kids who should have gotten into TJ ready for higher-level math courses and kids needing remedial math to be ready for Algebra I. The smaller Western opens, the more challenging it becomes to build a schedule that accommodates these diverse requirements.


Plenty of kids come out of MS needing Algebra 2 across the region and a smaller number needing Pre Calc in 9th grade. Plenty of kids come out of MS needing third year foreign language because they start a language as 7th graders. They know this and those classes will be offered. They are preparing for 9th and 10th grade, so I am sure that they are aware that they have to offer classes for kids who were advanced in math in MS, so needing Pre Calc and Calculus. Most HS math teachers can teach Algebra, Geometry, and Calculus.

I would expect the class sizes to be smaller because of people opting to send their kid to the other HS option. The school knows that they will need the teachers to teach the classes as the school grows, so they bring in enough teachers to offer all the classes needed by the 9th and 10th graders, which will include the more advanced math and foreign language classes. There will be fewer sections, initially, so one teacher teaches a few more levels of language and math.

The one concern I have is the JI program coming out of FM would need a home at the new school. I suspect that they can meet that with a class in Japanese 3 and 4 and bringing the Japanese teacher from Carson over to the school for the Japanese classes.


You are making a ton of assumptions about how FCPS would staff up to offer a private-school experience at Western for a few years, and yet it's FCPS that can't obtain the 2232 quickly, can't make the building modifications quickly, and is sending out mixed messages about how quickly it can even establish boundaries for this new school. I'm not sure the School Board members will sign off on your wish list or that FCPS could deliver on this in the fall of 2026, even if it did.



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