Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:And the rest of the world laughs at us again.

The rest of the country and free parts of the world are cheering for Virginia today.

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Anonymous wrote:Ds, I'm upset, too. Youngkin and Sears are loons. They are gun extremists and pander to the Q types. As other PPs have said, white angry suburban moms didn't want schools closed and lashed out. Here we are.

But don't lose hope. VA trends blue. We've had a D gov since 2009. That's a long time. There was bound to be a bounce back to R, for a short period. I have no doubt that when COVID passes and kids are back in school, we'll trend back D with a better candidate.

This is the ebb and flow of politics - particularly in VA which tends to do a DD, R, DD, R kind of situation. You can never get to greedy in politics because power always switches hands. Much like Trump, though, I think this will be a one term R because once Rs rear their ugly little head most voters remember why they were repulsed in the first place.

And remember, we have elections every year in VA so be sure to show up next year!!

You forgot one thing, with GOP held Gov and AG, they can send alternate electors in 2024. If I were someone who gives up easily I’d save the American experiment of democracy is over. But I’m not, so I won’t, but I feel like it.

+1 The little known "state board of elections" will play a pivotal role in 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so happy this morning, for the people of Virginia and all of us as Americans.

We are back.

Biden and Kamala are toast. That is the real story now.

And make no mistake about it: This was a Culture Wars win. This election was about CRT. Next up is the trans agenda in our public schools. Yes, we're coming for you too. Enough is Enough.

Well, at least one person is willing to say it out loud.

We should all say this aloud. I vote Dem and we are losing because of our smug take on the culture war.

We won on LGBT rights with same sex marriage and anti discrimination laws, but then waaaaay too far with the neopronouns, XY people in womens sports, “men will never take advantage of new bathroom laws!” crap.

BLM galvanized the country and opened even my very conservative family’s eyes, but then no one was able to turn this into any actual change for the better and instead Dems just focus on shaming white “Karens” with no goal in sight.

Dems have been saying “follow the science” on vaccines, but then go overboard with school closures when the science says the risk of the virus to children is minuscule.

People want affordable healthcare, parental leave, and good infrastructure, but instead all the Dems offer is endless cultural shaming because talk is cheap and legislation is hard. You’re handing the country to the GOP on a platter. (They don’t have any brilliant solutions either, but the Dems are being so annoying no one even blames them for that.)

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Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems: “We are tolerant, kind people. So anyway, like I was saying..Republicans are gutter trash.”

And this whole thread illustrates that. And when called on it - more name calling. It’s pretty funny.

Agree. Behave like gutter trash- expect to be called out as such. There are reasons those things are said.

Face it. You put up a shitty candidate, and not enough people voted for him. That doesn’t make the people who voted for the other side “gutter trash.”

Face it. Most of the Youngkin votes were from uneducated whites.

Funny, I know plenty of women with college degrees and some with MAs that voted for him.

Unfortunately, they are still uneducated. Voting for him means you are with those who attacked our Capitol.

Sorry, I didn't realize that by "uneducated" you meant "voted for someone I don't like." Tautology.

You don’t seem to understand the clear post. That means you are uneducated.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so happy this morning, for the people of Virginia and all of us as Americans.

We are back.

Biden and Kamala are toast. That is the real story now.

And make no mistake about it: This was a Culture Wars win. This election was about CRT. Next up is the trans agenda in our public schools. Yes, we're coming for you too. Enough is Enough.

Well, at least one person is willing to say it out loud.

We should all say this aloud. I vote Dem and we are losing because of our smug take on the culture war.

We won on LGBT rights with same sex marriage and anti discrimination laws, but then waaaaay too far with the neopronouns, XY people in womens sports, “men will never take advantage of new bathroom laws!” crap.

BLM galvanized the country and opened even my very conservative family’s eyes, but then no one was able to turn this into any actual change for the better and instead Dems just focus on shaming white “Karens” with no goal in sight.

Dems have been saying “follow the science” on vaccines, but then go overboard with school closures when the science says the risk of the virus to children is minuscule.

People want affordable healthcare, parental leave, and good infrastructure, but instead all the Dems offer is endless cultural shaming because talk is cheap and legislation is hard. You’re handing the country to the GOP on a platter. (They don’t have any brilliant solutions either, but the Dems are being so annoying no one even blames them for that.)

I find it so interesting that you say BLM opened our family’s eyes, but then they didn’t hold Republicans accountable for not doing anything about it, only Democrats. Why aren’t Republicans equally accountable for addressing racism?

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Remember this: Terry was up by double digits this summer. All he and the Dems had to do to win this was not be crazy.

And they couldn't even manage that.

SMH.

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Anonymous wrote:Keep counting. I'm convinced Terry is still in this to win it. Ds hold NJ!

Who else would want New Jersey. Virginia makes, New Jersey takes.

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

Here you go. Facts.

Post about this from Feb 2020:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/105/951009.page
“Actually, based on the Burbio methodology, this says that *at most* ~40% of US student are in-person right now. Obviously, it's less than that since 100% of families are not choosing in-person.

https://about.burbio.com/methodology/
"• Burbio assigns a learning mode to a school district based on the most in-person option available to the general student population. Thus if a district offers both traditional and virtual options, the district is categorized as Traditional. " “

Hey out of state political activist.

We are talking about Virginia public schools, which were closed, vs Virginia private schools which were open.

Not 40% of schools in the US.

I’m a VA parent who saw this all go down. Don’t try to rewrite history.

DC areas schools sent kids back to the classroom around the same time as many other schools in the country. We weren’t an outlier.

Private schools had many more resources available to help them open. Mandates for testing, masking, traveling, etc. Plus, smaller classes and tons more space.

You are not being accurate or truthful.

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Anonymous wrote:I said it once before, I’ll say it again - Youngkin won because people can’t afford to feed and care for themselves or their families thanks to the crazy inflation, high gas prices and food shortages.

While the party feuds over its vast social spending agenda, Republicans are highlighting issues that preoccupy voters more immediately, like a sluggish economy, high gas prices, expensive groceries, crime rates and concerns about the rights of parents to influence what is taught in schools. Those concerns in many cases have been exacerbated by a prolonged pandemic, which President Joe Biden declared all but over in July but that spiked over the summer in a new blow to an exhausted nation's morale.

The easiest way to bring down food inflation is to stop the monthly child tax credits and pull back expanded SNAP benefits. Less money chasing the same product means a lower price. I'm not sure the rural R voters would appreciate that though.

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Anonymous wrote:I said it once before, I’ll say it again - Youngkin won because people can’t afford to feed and care for themselves or their families thanks to the crazy inflation, high gas prices and food shortages.

While the party feuds over its vast social spending agenda, Republicans are highlighting issues that preoccupy voters more immediately, like a sluggish economy, high gas prices, expensive groceries, crime rates and concerns about the rights of parents to influence what is taught in schools. Those concerns in many cases have been exacerbated by a prolonged pandemic, which President Joe Biden declared all but over in July but that spiked over the summer in a new blow to an exhausted nation's morale.

This sounds like people in Britain blaming Brexit for supply shortages. We're blaming Biden now for supply shortages when we should be happy to see real wage increases and inflation and instead of deflation, and the Great Resignation is signalling a real shift in our economy, our culture, which is needed.

I'm optimistic about economy right now. We really are changing what needs to be changed. Some of it is painful but we'll make it through to a better economy for Americans. I haven't heard many people saying this, instead there's complaints about gas prices and pointing fingers about ruining Christmas. Think longer term than just getting elected. Evaluate where we are and where our economy is going.

You’re the only one optimistic then. The average American is scared. We don’t need social welfare. We need affordable food and gas for our cars. We need a GDP that isn’t cratering and inflation that isn’t rising.

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

+1 the “CRT” stuff wasn’t important to NoVa voters (it was just a bone for the R base in the rest of the state), but the closures and the perception that the curriculum was being “dumbed down” by the Democrats in the state DoE WAS important here. All it takes is a few percentage points of people who usually vote D switching to the other side.

And no, NoVa schools didn’t open at the same time as other schools. Anyone with functioning eyes and access to social media could have seen that. The closures killed Democrats and people took out their frustrations on the first election they could.

You may want to check your perceptions.

Here are facts:

From: https://info.burbio.com

January 4, 2021
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 53.4% (from 50.8% last week)

February 1, 2021 - The week that APS sent kids in career/CTE back to classroom:
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 38.2% (from 42% last week)

March 1, 2021 - The week that APS sent SN and K-2 back to classroom:
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 27.5% (from 31.1% last week)

etc.

Our schools were NOT an outlier and started send kids back to the classroom around the same time as MANY other school systems.

So we “started” sending a few kids back part time hybrid later than about 60-75% of all districts and that’s … a good thing? We were in the bottom 25-40%. That’s not great and I would also argue that it’s stretching the definition of “the same time as other districts.”

The closures hurt Democrats. There’s no two ways about it. Pro-closure people can rationalize all they want but it’s just denial.

Also your own source, https://cai.burbio.com/school-opening-tracker/, indicates that VA was seventh from the bottom in terms of in-person school over the year. (MD was third from last, CA was last). How is that not an outlier? And how does it help to deny the obvious? Politically or otherwise? Democrats need to just to acknowledge the difficulties/ learning loss of the last 1.5 years and then say, and here, here is our plan for remedying the effects and improving public schools.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so happy this morning, for the people of Virginia and all of us as Americans.

We are back.

Biden and Kamala are toast. That is the real story now.

And make no mistake about it: This was a Culture Wars win. This election was about CRT. Next up is the trans agenda in our public schools. Yes, we're coming for you too. Enough is Enough.

Well, at least one person is willing to say it out loud.

We should all say this aloud. I vote Dem and we are losing because of our smug take on the culture war.

We won on LGBT rights with same sex marriage and anti discrimination laws, but then waaaaay too far with the neopronouns, XY people in womens sports, “men will never take advantage of new bathroom laws!” crap.

BLM galvanized the country and opened even my very conservative family’s eyes, but then no one was able to turn this into any actual change for the better and instead Dems just focus on shaming white “Karens” with no goal in sight.

Dems have been saying “follow the science” on vaccines, but then go overboard with school closures when the science says the risk of the virus to children is minuscule.

People want affordable healthcare, parental leave, and good infrastructure, but instead all the Dems offer is endless cultural shaming because talk is cheap and legislation is hard. You’re handing the country to the GOP on a platter. (They don’t have any brilliant solutions either, but the Dems are being so annoying no one even blames them for that.)

I find it so interesting that you say BLM opened our family’s eyes, but then they didn’t hold Republicans accountable for not doing anything about it, only Democrats. Why aren’t Republicans equally accountable for addressing racism?

Do you remember the mostly peaceful protest meme?

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Looks like making everything about hateful identity politics (while closing schools and creating practical nightmares for families) is NOT an election winning strategy. Who ever could have guessed??

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

+1 the “CRT” stuff wasn’t important to NoVa voters (it was just a bone for the R base in the rest of the state), but the closures and the perception that the curriculum was being “dumbed down” by the Democrats in the state DoE WAS important here. All it takes is a few percentage points of people who usually vote D switching to the other side.

And no, NoVa schools didn’t open at the same time as other schools. Anyone with functioning eyes and access to social media could have seen that. The closures killed Democrats and people took out their frustrations on the first election they could.

Yes, to this. I think it was much more bread-n-butter educational issues that motivated (or didn't motivate) NoVa voters. And Terry had to win big there. And now Democrats are going to respond to those concerns by calling everyone uneducated Karens, which wrong or right, is going to further drive the suburbs away. Ugh.

This. I know it’s next day bitterness, but the response that the swing voters who voted Youngkin are uneducated Karens is a terrible look. You will need these swing voters to come back to the Dems in 2022 and 2024, so what is insulting them accomplishing?

So the key to winning elections is to coddle voters and just tell them what they want to hear?