The Cambridges News and Updates ( Prince William, Kate Middleton, George, Charlotte and Louis)

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Yep, result would have been the same even if Harry and Meghan had gone there, although some don't like them either. Well, Jamaica better get busy making that money. So they don't have to ask for hand outs, when the next disaster hits. It cuts both ways!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Yep, result would have been the same even if Harry and Meghan had gone there, although some don't like them either. Well, Jamaica better get busy making that money. So they don't have to ask for hand outs, when the next disaster hits. It cuts both ways!

The UK royal family doesn't give money away dear. It takes it. No more expenses for hosting royals coming Jamaica or Belize's way.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Yep, result would have been the same even if Harry and Meghan had gone there, although some don't like them either. Well, Jamaica better get busy making that money. So they don't have to ask for hand outs, when the next disaster hits. It cuts both ways!

The UK does not give Jamaica any money. Jamaica will quicker get money from China than the UK.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Yep, result would have been the same even if Harry and Meghan had gone there, although some don't like them either. Well, Jamaica better get busy making that money. So they don't have to ask for hand outs, when the next disaster hits. It cuts both ways!

The UK royal family doesn't give money away dear. It takes it. No more expenses for hosting royals coming Jamaica or Belize's way.

Yes, the royal family generates money for the areas they visit. People come to see them - they came to see William and Kate in Jamaica, although PPs only posted the unflattering pics and none of the good ones. They were a benefit. Now they aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Yep, result would have been the same even if Harry and Meghan had gone there, although some don't like them either. Well, Jamaica better get busy making that money. So they don't have to ask for hand outs, when the next disaster hits. It cuts both ways!

The UK does not give Jamaica any money. Jamaica will quicker get money from China than the UK.

Hope not. Hope they're smart enough to avoid that.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, you guys have to admit that it’s kind of bs that they’re holding W&K responsible for centuries of slavery and colonialism. He can’t help the family he was born into any more than they can. You think he wants to be there, being fired and told off on a world stage?

It seems a little strange to say that William shouldn’t be held responsible for centuries of British misconduct because he can’t help the family he was born into when the ONLY reason he has any role or authority is because of the family he was born into.

It just reveals the bankruptcy of a hereditary monarchy where authority (such as it is) is passed down solely based on who your parents are, but if your are going to have that system you can’t also disclaim any responsibility for what has occurred in the past.

Umm, the head of state has already been divested of powers. The revolution happened a while ago, dear.

I just love it when posters on DCUM are both condescending and clueless.t There hasn’t been a revolution in England in over 300 years and all sovereign authority in the UK is located in the Queen, although as a practical matter most but not all of her authority gets delegated to elected or appointed officials (go read up on how Boris Johnson had to lie to her to get her to prorogue Parliament as part of his Brexit strategy).

In any case the point is that William would be nobody without being heir to the throne. As the article someone posted said he is damned by the very thing that makes him relevant— you can’t have one without the other.

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Anonymous wrote:It occurred to me that the Cambridges might not have been seeking re-newed ties to a legacy of colonialism, slavery, and anti-minority history. They might have wanted to wear the dress whites with all the fancy badges and medals to one up a certain brother who can't wear those things. Remember when Harry was forbidden from wearing his military uniform at Phillip's funeral this time last year?

This might have been William thumbing his nose by scheduling an event where he could and have the images broadcast for the world to see. Unfortunately for him his idea took on a whole different context on the world stage and for the locals as well. And if that was the case - he couldn't admit it because its a mistake that makes him look like a petty loser instead of just a racist.

It might be better if he came out and admitted this jealousy mistake if that's what it was. Because right now he's got the NYT and everyone else calling him out for colonialist fantasies.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Yep, result would have been the same even if Harry and Meghan had gone there, although some don't like them either. Well, Jamaica better get busy making that money. So they don't have to ask for hand outs, when the next disaster hits. It cuts both ways!

The UK royal family doesn't give money away dear. It takes it. No more expenses for hosting royals coming Jamaica or Belize's way.

Yes, the royal family generates money for the areas they visit. People come to see them - they came to see William and Kate in Jamaica, although PPs only posted the unflattering pics and none of the good ones. They were a benefit. Now they aren't.

Delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Yep, result would have been the same even if Harry and Meghan had gone there, although some don't like them either. Well, Jamaica better get busy making that money. So they don't have to ask for hand outs, when the next disaster hits. It cuts both ways!

The UK royal family doesn't give money away dear. It takes it. No more expenses for hosting royals coming Jamaica or Belize's way.

Yes, the royal family generates money for the areas they visit. People come to see them - they came to see William and Kate in Jamaica, although PPs only posted the unflattering pics and none of the good ones. They were a benefit. Now they aren't.

Who are these people that went to Jamaica to see William & Kate and therefore generated revenue for Jamaica?

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They come off as clueless as the Trumps.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Yep, result would have been the same even if Harry and Meghan had gone there, although some don't like them either. Well, Jamaica better get busy making that money. So they don't have to ask for hand outs, when the next disaster hits. It cuts both ways!

The UK royal family doesn't give money away dear. It takes it. No more expenses for hosting royals coming Jamaica or Belize's way.

Yes, the royal family generates money for the areas they visit. People come to see them - they came to see William and Kate in Jamaica, although PPs only posted the unflattering pics and none of the good ones. They were a benefit. Now they aren't.

It would be great to see some receipts for that. What exactly do you think happens that generates money? Throngs of excited school children staying in hotels?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Really? News to me.

The only people I'm aware of who dislike Kate and Wills are the usual haters on here.

Never in real life.

NP. This comment actually says something about you, frankly.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't personally know anyone that don't like William and Kate. I only hear about Harry and Megan's feud with them.

And you're assuming that the people that you "personally know" somehow embody the viewpoints of millions worldwide?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Yep, result would have been the same even if Harry and Meghan had gone there, although some don't like them either. Well, Jamaica better get busy making that money. So they don't have to ask for hand outs, when the next disaster hits. It cuts both ways!

The UK royal family doesn't give money away dear. It takes it. No more expenses for hosting royals coming Jamaica or Belize's way.

Yes, the royal family generates money for the areas they visit. People come to see them - they came to see William and Kate in Jamaica, although PPs only posted the unflattering pics and none of the good ones. They were a benefit. Now they aren't.

Delusional.

do you also walk around the house muttering hatefully or just on here? This thread is pages and pages of you spewing hate. Why not get a more productive hobby?

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Really? News to me.

The only people I'm aware of who dislike Kate and Wills are the usual haters on here.

Never in real life.

I’m embarrassed for you.