The Cambridges News and Updates ( Prince William, Kate Middleton, George, Charlotte and Louis)

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Belize becomes the third country in six months to drop the Queen as head of state. Coincidentally 2 days after a Cambridge visit.

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Anonymous wrote:Belize becomes the third country in six months to drop the Queen as head of state. Coincidentally 2 days after a Cambridge visit.

Wow, this is terrible optics for the royal family. Lmao.

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Anonymous wrote:Belize becomes the third country in six months to drop the Queen as head of state. Coincidentally 2 days after a Cambridge visit.

Wow, this is terrible optics for the royal family. Lmao.

Why? The goal is to show friendly ties between two countries. Regardless of commonwealth status. Charles visited Barbados right after they chose to leave the commonwealth.

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Anonymous wrote:Belize becomes the third country in six months to drop the Queen as head of state. Coincidentally 2 days after a Cambridge visit.

Wow, this is terrible optics for the royal family. Lmao.

Why? The goal is to show friendly ties between two countries. Regardless of commonwealth status. Charles visited Barbados right after they chose to leave the commonwealth.

Charles was invited as the last representative of the monarchy on the day of transition. Will + Kate were invited to test their candidacy, found wanting, and their people - angry already at the refusal to make a simple apologize - push the matter forward at lightening speed.

No matter how you spin it, two countries announcing they are denouncing the monarchy, while you are still ON TOUR - is unimaginable.

I'm curious how the palace responds - if the Wessexs will still be sent this time next month and if the Cambridges will ever be let outside the UK again.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

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If the Wessex don't go to the 5 Caribbean countries they're scheduled to visit beginning April 22nd - its a de facto announcement from the BRF that they don't want the rest of the Caribbean and you can start republics ASAP. Or if they do the same but still send Anne to Papua New Guinea.

But if they do go and don't do as terribly as the Cambridges, which essentially is the low bar of not having the monarchy discarded mid-tour, then its not a good look for the future King.

Wessex:
Antigua and Barbuda, Grenada, St Lucia, and St Vincent and the Grenadines

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The Caribbean countries do not need permission from the BRF to go. Jamaica and Belize have given notice. BRF has been dumped. Trying to spin this as the BRF doesn’t want them looks rather pathetic after getting dumped.

The BRF and palace staff was stupid enough to think that these trips would keep countries in the commonwealth. The BRF absolutely wants to keep as many countries in as it contributes to the myth of their prestige. The monarchy survives on myth and perception. It provides no value to anyone other than the monarch’s.

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Anonymous wrote:Belize becomes the third country in six months to drop the Queen as head of state. Coincidentally 2 days after a Cambridge visit.

Wow, this is terrible optics for the royal family. Lmao.

Why? The goal is to show friendly ties between two countries. Regardless of commonwealth status. Charles visited Barbados right after they chose to leave the commonwealth.

You don’t see the difference between:
-Charles visited after they chose to leave the commonwealth And
- They chose to leave the commonwealth after William and Kate visited?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, you guys have to admit that it’s kind of bs that they’re holding W&K responsible for centuries of slavery and colonialism. He can’t help the family he was born into any more than they can. You think he wants to be there, being fired and told off on a world stage?

It seems a little strange to say that William shouldn’t be held responsible for centuries of British misconduct because he can’t help the family he was born into when the ONLY reason he has any role or authority is because of the family he was born into.

It just reveals the bankruptcy of a hereditary monarchy where authority (such as it is) is passed down solely based on who your parents are, but if your are going to have that system you can’t also disclaim any responsibility for what has occurred in the past.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, you guys have to admit that it’s kind of bs that they’re holding W&K responsible for centuries of slavery and colonialism. He can’t help the family he was born into any more than they can. You think he wants to be there, being fired and told off on a world stage?

It seems a little strange to say that William shouldn’t be held responsible for centuries of British misconduct because he can’t help the family he was born into when the ONLY reason he has any role or authority is because of the family he was born into.

It just reveals the bankruptcy of a hereditary monarchy where authority (such as it is) is passed down solely based on who your parents are, but if your are going to have that system you can’t also disclaim any responsibility for what has occurred in the past.

Umm, the head of state has already been divested of powers. The revolution happened a while ago, dear.

Someone upthread posted that the BRF are lousy at being worker-bees and fritter away their money. That's how the system has been configured - the inheritance taxes crushed the hereditary titles and the caste system forbids a lot of ways of making money. More and more, some have opted out and have chosen to live like regular people. But while Harry can get away with that, William can't. Or at least, it would be much more difficult for him to do what Harry did.

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It occurred to me that the Cambridges might not have been seeking re-newed ties to a legacy of colonialism, slavery, and anti-minority history. They might have wanted to wear the dress whites with all the fancy badges and medals to one up a certain brother who can't wear those things. Remember when Harry was forbidden from wearing his military uniform at Phillip's funeral this time last year?

This might have been William thumbing his nose by scheduling an event where he could and have the images broadcast for the world to see. Unfortunately for him his idea took on a whole different context on the world stage and for the locals as well. And if that was the case - he couldn't admit it because its a mistake that makes him look like a petty loser instead of just a racist.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Really? News to me.

The only people I'm aware of who dislike Kate and Wills are the usual haters on here.

Never in real life.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that the BRF seems shocked by this. They and their team are incredibly stupid.

In the last Jamaican election both candidates campaigned on dropping the monarchy. The current administration has been criticized because it hasn’t made much progress on setting up a referendum to change the constitution to dump them. It’s impossible that the Jamaican administration did not object to the visit. It’s highly likely that the BRF pushed because they want a world tour as the Queen is possibly close to dying in the next year. The BRF does nothing for Jamaica or it’s tourism. They simply wanted to project that the next generation of royals are relevant and on top of the realm. Jamaica ca gave in and the current politicians saw it as a win to give them their walking papers and tamp down the criticism of not dropping them sooner.

The BRF walked into a mess entirely of their own making. Huge blunder but probably not the last.

The BRF pushed because they realized that not only is the Queen is dying but William, the future head of state, has never once been to 9 out of the 14 countries he's supposed to be King of. He turns 40 in June. Jamaica, Belize, and the Bahamas are pushing back because...he doesn't care about them. Simple.

Why should he? The whole idea of the commonwealth is ridiculous and unworkable. I don’t blame him for being unhappy about this one bit. The Jamaican government been so rude to them.

You can't be King of a country you don't care about - let alone never visited. They're all going to dump his 'I long for the colonial era' idiocy.

Well exactly. I highly doubt he cares if these nations go. They do nothing for the UK.

And the UK does nothing for them. The issue is (now more than ever) the UK is desperate for trade deals from more powerful countries and they too are paying them dust. If the big and little countries don't want you and you walked away from a powerful alliance in the European Union - where does that leave you?

With the worst standards of living in nearing a century, that's where. Good luck to Boris because these idiots aren't helping him sell Brexit or alliances at all.

This is what we call a non-sequitur response. Has nothing to do with the matter.

Jamaica is hardly of strategic or economic importance to any country outside the local Caribbean islands. There is a large population of Jamaicans who emigrated to Britain and that is the lingering link.

The real story is that the royal tour was organized and did exactly what all previous royal tours had done without a hiccup. Except this time the existence of a tour became a political hot topic for Jamaicans and certain Jamaican politicians. Kate and William didn't do anything wrong or rude. If anything, the Jamaican government is more in the wrong because if it was problematic, they should have told the Palace not to have the tour. And the Palace wouldn't. But it does look like they walked into a deliberate trap used by Jamaican politicians for political gains.

And all this will be forgotten by most people in a week when they move on to the next scandal, whether in Jamaica or elsewhere.

Kate and William didn't do anything at all. They showed up for Instagram photo-ops and literally had the Jamaicans put on a fake military parade so they could take colonial-era photos and mimic the Queen. They aren't serious about their roles or helping the people. So they're out.

As for the 'next' scandal, the British royals have been rocking scandal-after-scandal since the start of 2022. Whatever the next one is, nice that you're looking forward to it, will be a doozy.

Fin.

FFS, the BRF - and certainly not W and K - did not demand a parade. These events are proposed and put on my the host country, silly. If Jamaica didn’t want to engage, they shouldn’t have. They could certainly have declined the visit.

You think the Jamaicans proposed setting up in military dress uniform in an empty soccer field while Will and Kate stood on the back of a 75-year-old jeep and waved at no one?

The Cambridges keen team suggested it to get shots harking back to the Queen's visit for the Platinum Jubilee and shot themselves in the foot in the process.

Empty gestures from empty heads.

Yes, I absolutely think the Jamaicans proposed this or would have worked closely with the BRF to coordinate.

Then you're a fool. No majority-black nation wants to put on a display for colonizer Barbie while their people are demanding an apology for all of the colonial atrocities. This was all Cambridge 'look we are the Queen 2.0' and it flopped. Hard.

Be honest. The world has changed a lot in the past 10 years. Jamaica has gone from a country that loves the queen to a country that wants to get rid of her. Kate is just a symbol of that, not the cause.

The Jamaicans point blank said they respect and love the Queen. William and Kate became a symbol of anti-monarchy because of their actions or lack there of. Starting with ignoring these countries (they've never been there!) for 10 years, including controversial racist quotes that William neither owned up too nor apologized for (once is a concern, twice is a pattern, three times is ridiculous), and ending with showing up on a country's doorstep to take cutsie photos and bounce. They might as well be on vacation in Mustique.

They're intending to get rid of the queen by August. Not Charles or William. The queen.

It's a generational change, not a change in the BRF.

The Queen is dying. Any actions taken now are a reflection on the future.

Right? But they aren't waiting until she passes. This isn't about "colonizer Barbie" or about Kate or about William. Or even about Elizabeth. It's about Jamaica.

If William had shown even an iota of interest in the Caribbean or not letting racist drivel fall from his lips every year maybe they would have waited. As it is might as well get started, they don't want to ever have to bow and scrape for King William.

Haha. You think that if Harry and Meghan had stuck around and had been the ones to go to Jamaica, that they wouldn't have been told the same thing? Suuure.

DP: Possibly. Meghan’s experiences with the British press and media, the BRF, and the BRF’s apparent lack of interest in addressing the issues of racism were noticed by millions of people— including millions of people in Commonwealth countries. Actions have consequences. The personal is political. I think some of you don’t realize what a powerful symbol of representation Meghan was —and is — to many people. Harry, unlike William, has a long-standing history of positive interactions with people from many of the Commonwealth countries. I think if Harry and Meghan had gone to Jamaica, the transition to become a republic would have been held off as long as the Queen is alive.

I agree with this. I think the ultimate result would be the same, but it would have happened after the Queen passed. People really dislike Will and Kate, though.

Really? News to me.

The only people I'm aware of who dislike Kate and Wills are the usual haters on here.

Never in real life.

Are you the same person who was insisting it was a small vocal minority in Jamaica who don’t want the royal head of state, and everyone else loves loves loves he BRF? Your ability to assess the reality of situations is quite suspect.

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I don't personally know anyone that don't like William and Kate. I only hear about Harry and Megan's feud with them.