White Lotus

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly a lot of DCUMers identified with and were rooting for Rachel.

I did in the first few episodes, but she ended up being one of the biggest losers.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly a lot of DCUMers identified with and were rooting for Rachel.

I don't identify with her at all, but I was hoping she would get away from her scumbag husband. He was pretty entertaining to watch on the screen, though.

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Anonymous wrote:How big was that tip Belinda received?

That's another thing, I was hoping we'd see Belinda off somewhere doing something great, living her best life. But instead you see her (along with the pregnant woman from the first episode, btw) waving from the shore greeting the new set of guests. There were all these small and intersting nuances that went nowhere.

But isn’t that the point of the show? The cycle of exploitation continues. The rich people just continue on their merry ways. Shane leaves the resort with a handshake after stabbing the manager. Paula leaves Kai to face whatever his fate is. Jennifer Coolidge leaves Belinda after getting her hopes up. Etc etc.

This.

Are our main characters changed? Sure, a little.

I actually thought Shane was changed. He looked genuinely stricken after he inadvertently killed Armond then hopeful and genuinely loving when he saw Rachel again. Maybe it won't last but there was something there. The daughter was genuinely sweet and protective to her friend after her major assholery to the people who had been nothing but generous to her. And the Mossbachers, who didn't seem like bad people, got out of their own @sses and managed to connect with one another (minus Quinn, who found more meaning in the beauty of nature). Belinda was disappointed but received a massive tip for a few days' annoyance and then stood up for herself. And the psychically tormented Jennifer Coolidge seemed to find a bit of peace and happiness, and some wisdom about her bad emotional habits. I thought there was a quiet beauty to it. With the exception of Paula's and Armond's dark arcs.

I agree that Shane seemed like he had taken a turn for the better (even though he was so rude to the couple at the airport).

I agree and think his demeanor between the first and last ep scenes was different and meant to throw us off a bit. Mike White does suggest a possible turn for the better in a recent interview:

"Switching gears, did Shane and Rachel’s reunion at the end make you happy or sad?
I felt sort of happy that they [ended up] together. The emotion of the music and [the look on] their faces, I was like, “Awww, that’s nice.” As far as what it means in terms of her idealism and what she’s choosing, it’s bittersweet. I don’t judge her for it. It was always about her choosing that lifestyle and whatever compromises she was going to have to make in connection with that. And so it made sense for the character.

The way he tightly embraced her, it seemed to me like maybe the death of Armond had changed him and he was appreciating her more. Am I reading too much into that?
I think that’s right. It’s paralleled with the Nicole and Mark storyline, where some kind of traumatic thing can change the DNA of a situation and make someone a little more sympathetic. I kind of wanted Shane to look like a little boy lost. Suddenly, all of his swagger is gone. And I find that that’s often true with those kind of guys. They’re so used to winning that when something bad happens they don’t really know how to process it. They’re often a little lost."

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly a lot of DCUMers identified with and were rooting for Rachel.

I'd put my money on none of them being anywhere close to as hot as she is.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet the ski resort will be in Aspen with Tanya and the BLM guy.

Yes!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Paula messed up Kai to no ill effect to her and in so doing became a Mossbacher.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one that noticed. I can’t stand Paula because of the abject hypocrisy she exhibits. She is in Hawaii getting a trip most people only dream of and seems completely put out. She is in a great college (I’m guessing because Olivia wouldn’t be seen dead in some low class school). She persuades Kai to commit a huge crime and then walks away with him in the lurch while tossing away any trace (necklace) that may give her angst to the devastation she left in her wake.

And I’m bummed Armond is dead, loved his character, but it needed to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly a lot of DCUMers identified with and were rooting for Rachel.

I'd put my money on none of them being anywhere close to as hot as she is.

Speaking of f’d up values…

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly a lot of DCUMers identified with and were rooting for Rachel.

I'd put my money on none of them being anywhere close to as hot as she is.

Speaking of f’d up values…

A DC "Shane" has joined us.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly a lot of DCUMers identified with and were rooting for Rachel.

I'd put my money on none of them being anywhere close to as hot as she is.

Speaking of f’d up values…

A DC "Shane" has joined us.

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Anonymous wrote:Paula messed up Kai to no ill effect to her and in so doing became a Mossbacher.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one that noticed. I can’t stand Paula because of the abject hypocrisy she exhibits. She is in Hawaii getting a trip most people only dream of and seems completely put out. She is in a great college (I’m guessing because Olivia wouldn’t be seen dead in some low class school). She persuades Kai to commit a huge crime and then walks away with him in the lurch while tossing away any trace (necklace) that may give her angst to the devastation she left in her wake.

And I’m bummed Armond is dead, loved his character, but it needed to happen.

But Paula is the only one who seems to feel remorse and regret about her actions.

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Anonymous wrote:Paula messed up Kai to no ill effect to her and in so doing became a Mossbacher.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one that noticed. I can’t stand Paula because of the abject hypocrisy she exhibits. She is in Hawaii getting a trip most people only dream of and seems completely put out. She is in a great college (I’m guessing because Olivia wouldn’t be seen dead in some low class school). She persuades Kai to commit a huge crime and then walks away with him in the lurch while tossing away any trace (necklace) that may give her angst to the devastation she left in her wake.

And I’m bummed Armond is dead, loved his character, but it needed to happen.

But Paula is the only one who seems to feel remorse and regret about her actions.

She certainly should feel more remorse since her actions were far worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Paula messed up Kai to no ill effect to her and in so doing became a Mossbacher.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one that noticed. I can’t stand Paula because of the abject hypocrisy she exhibits. She is in Hawaii getting a trip most people only dream of and seems completely put out. She is in a great college (I’m guessing because Olivia wouldn’t be seen dead in some low class school). She persuades Kai to commit a huge crime and then walks away with him in the lurch while tossing away any trace (necklace) that may give her angst to the devastation she left in her wake.

And I’m bummed Armond is dead, loved his character, but it needed to happen. [/

But Paula is the only one who seems to feel remorse and regret about her actions.

She certainly should feel more remorse since her actions were far worse.

PP who noted Paula’s trip to the dark side.

They all feel about as bad as they can but it’s not all that deep. Furthermore, how do you know Paula felt remorse? She might have only been recognizing she was just like the “them” she despised.

Olivia’s hug in bed was an acknowledgment of her new reality.

I loved Armand too. Fun show but almost needed a bit more time to add the depth needed to make the characters clearer.

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Anonymous wrote:Paula messed up Kai to no ill effect to her and in so doing became a Mossbacher.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one that noticed. I can’t stand Paula because of the abject hypocrisy she exhibits. She is in Hawaii getting a trip most people only dream of and seems completely put out. She is in a great college (I’m guessing because Olivia wouldn’t be seen dead in some low class school). She persuades Kai to commit a huge crime and then walks away with him in the lurch while tossing away any trace (necklace) that may give her angst to the devastation she left in her wake.

And I’m bummed Armond is dead, loved his character, but it needed to happen.

But Paula is the only one who seems to feel remorse and regret about her actions.

I meant to respond to this post.

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Anonymous wrote:Paula messed up Kai to no ill effect to her and in so doing became a Mossbacher.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one that noticed. I can’t stand Paula because of the abject hypocrisy she exhibits. She is in Hawaii getting a trip most people only dream of and seems completely put out. She is in a great college (I’m guessing because Olivia wouldn’t be seen dead in some low class school). She persuades Kai to commit a huge crime and then walks away with him in the lurch while tossing away any trace (necklace) that may give her angst to the devastation she left in her wake.

And I’m bummed Armond is dead, loved his character, but it needed to happen.

PP. forgot to add. Paula IS privileged but she is so caught up in her victimhood, she can’t see it. At least the Mossbachers recognize theirs.

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Anonymous wrote:Paula messed up Kai to no ill effect to her and in so doing became a Mossbacher.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one that noticed. I can’t stand Paula because of the abject hypocrisy she exhibits. She is in Hawaii getting a trip most people only dream of and seems completely put out. She is in a great college (I’m guessing because Olivia wouldn’t be seen dead in some low class school). She persuades Kai to commit a huge crime and then walks away with him in the lurch while tossing away any trace (necklace) that may give her angst to the devastation she left in her wake.

And I’m bummed Armond is dead, loved his character, but it needed to happen.

But Paula is the only one who seems to feel remorse and regret about her actions.

But did she feel remorse? She could have turned herself in or come to Kai’s aid. She slipped his necklace into the ocean, seemingly a “cutting of the cord.” She may have felt sorry he got into trouble, but not enough to do anything about it. If she came clean and told the family she put him up to it, they probably would have dropped charges.

BTW— does anyone think her puking indicated she was pregnant? In real life, it would be too soon to have morning sickness….but since it’s TV…