Compacted Math- FYI

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.

So 90th%? Sorry, but that is crap, particularly as our DC’s class didn’t even cover all of the material.

I think that is the point... if they didn't cover the material and don't know it, compacting curriculum and moving forward in addition to what was missed already would not be beneficial.

It's so strange this is happening at some schools. Ours is completely on track like any other year. Not sure why some schools aren't keeping up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The content that was left out this year is discussed in detail in this topic:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/968637.page


Everything was not taught this year in 4/5 or 5/6 unless the teachers found a way to teach everything that MCPS lists as omitted in the documents outlining was wasn't covered.

Our school somehow managed. The kids are now in Eureka 6 module 4. They started out part way through 5 and didn't skip anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The content that was left out this year is discussed in detail in this topic:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/968637.page


Everything was not taught this year in 4/5 or 5/6 unless the teachers found a way to teach everything that MCPS lists as omitted in the documents outlining was wasn't covered.

Our school somehow managed. The kids are now in Eureka 6 module 4. They started out part way through 5 and didn't skip anything.

Same with our schoo which is a focus school. I think the smaller class sizes really helped this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The content that was left out this year is discussed in detail in this topic:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/968637.page


Everything was not taught this year in 4/5 or 5/6 unless the teachers found a way to teach everything that MCPS lists as omitted in the documents outlining was wasn't covered.

Our school somehow managed. The kids are now in Eureka 6 module 4. They started out part way through 5 and didn't skip anything.

You are talking about a different class. Compacted 5/6 is currently in Module 4 and that is where they will finish the year. Each class is in that module. The problem is that the full year of Grade 6 goes through Module 6 and the classes will only be finishing through Module 4. What is so hard to understand? Your class is not special. They are not finishing the curriculum just like every other class in the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.

So 90th%? Sorry, but that is crap, particularly as our DC’s class didn’t even cover all of the material.

I think that is the point... if they didn't cover the material and don't know it, compacting curriculum and moving forward in addition to what was missed already would not be beneficial.

The same would be true of all kids in that class unless they had outside support and tutoring to cover that material. So much for equity, especially in the pandemic. So curious how this will impact DCs class where many of the kids were in the care of cousins and older siblings and just joining class and submitting assignments was a big deal. Such a crappy way for the county to manage this. Let’s be as disruptive as possible to kids midstream.

They covered all the material at our school. Not sure which schools are failing to keep up and why.

Ours too. I think its parents just justifying why their kids aren't doing well and don't feel like getting involved and monitoring so they are blaming the school instead.

JFC, I do more than monitor my kid; I check their homework and ensure they get the concepts covered. My child got straight As - and strong As - across the year. They thrives on the compacted math environment and loved the class. They didn’t get a 230 and so now they don’t continue? That’s just wrong. They are doing well and no less equipped to do well in math 5/6 than any of their fellow students.

Hang your ego on something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The content that was left out this year is discussed in detail in this topic:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/968637.page


Everything was not taught this year in 4/5 or 5/6 unless the teachers found a way to teach everything that MCPS lists as omitted in the documents outlining was wasn't covered.

Our school somehow managed. The kids are now in Eureka 6 module 4. They started out part way through 5 and didn't skip anything.

You are talking about a different class. Compacted 5/6 is currently in Module 4 and that is where they will finish the year. Each class is in that module. The problem is that the full year of Grade 6 goes through Module 6 and the classes will only be finishing through Module 4. What is so hard to understand? Your class is not special. They are not finishing the curriculum just like every other class in the county.

A lot of parents don’t understand what MCPS is doing because it is like inside baseball. They made decisions about what units to skip in 4/5 and 5/6 at the beginning of the year, but they did not reveal the issue until February. Now they want to hold students accountable for missing the material, rather than figuring out how to fix it next year. Parents can enrich in outside course or for free, but they have to know the whole story in order to do so. I am not usually an MCPS sucks type, but this math thing is maddening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.

So 90th%? Sorry, but that is crap, particularly as our DC’s class didn’t even cover all of the material.

I think that is the point... if they didn't cover the material and don't know it, compacting curriculum and moving forward in addition to what was missed already would not be beneficial.

It's so strange this is happening at some schools. Ours is completely on track like any other year. Not sure why some schools aren't keeping up.

So strange when 20% of instructional time was lost and lots of kids were behind because of the full loss of Q4 last year? Not at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.

So 90th%? Sorry, but that is crap, particularly as our DC’s class didn’t even cover all of the material.

I think that is the point... if they didn't cover the material and don't know it, compacting curriculum and moving forward in addition to what was missed already would not be beneficial.

The same would be true of all kids in that class unless they had outside support and tutoring to cover that material. So much for equity, especially in the pandemic. So curious how this will impact DCs class where many of the kids were in the care of cousins and older siblings and just joining class and submitting assignments was a big deal. Such a crappy way for the county to manage this. Let’s be as disruptive as possible to kids midstream.

They covered all the material at our school. Not sure which schools are failing to keep up and why.

Ours too. I think its parents just justifying why their kids aren't doing well and don't feel like getting involved and monitoring so they are blaming the school instead.

JFC, I do more than monitor my kid; I check their homework and ensure they get the concepts covered. My child got straight As - and strong As - across the year. They thrives on the compacted math environment and loved the class. They didn’t get a 230 and so now they don’t continue? That’s just wrong. They are doing well and no less equipped to do well in math 5/6 than any of their fellow students.

Hang your ego on something else.

PP, I understand your frustration, but you are answering a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The content that was left out this year is discussed in detail in this topic:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/968637.page


Everything was not taught this year in 4/5 or 5/6 unless the teachers found a way to teach everything that MCPS lists as omitted in the documents outlining was wasn't covered.

Our school somehow managed. The kids are now in Eureka 6 module 4. They started out part way through 5 and didn't skip anything.

You are talking about a different class. Compacted 5/6 is currently in Module 4 and that is where they will finish the year. Each class is in that module. The problem is that the full year of Grade 6 goes through Module 6 and the classes will only be finishing through Module 4. What is so hard to understand? Your class is not special. They are not finishing the curriculum just like every other class in the county.

A lot of parents don’t understand what MCPS is doing because it is like inside baseball. They made decisions about what units to skip in 4/5 and 5/6 at the beginning of the year, but they did not reveal the issue until February. Now they want to hold students accountable for missing the material, rather than figuring out how to fix it next year. Parents can enrich in outside course or for free, but they have to know the whole story in order to do so. I am not usually an MCPS sucks type, but this math thing is maddening.

Yes! Exactly this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.

So 90th%? Sorry, but that is crap, particularly as our DC’s class didn’t even cover all of the material.

I think that is the point... if they didn't cover the material and don't know it, compacting curriculum and moving forward in addition to what was missed already would not be beneficial.

The same would be true of all kids in that class unless they had outside support and tutoring to cover that material. So much for equity, especially in the pandemic. So curious how this will impact DCs class where many of the kids were in the care of cousins and older siblings and just joining class and submitting assignments was a big deal. Such a crappy way for the county to manage this. Let’s be as disruptive as possible to kids midstream.

They covered all the material at our school. Not sure which schools are failing to keep up and why.

Ours too. I think its parents just justifying why their kids aren't doing well and don't feel like getting involved and monitoring so they are blaming the school instead.

JFC, I do more than monitor my kid; I check their homework and ensure they get the concepts covered. My child got straight As - and strong As - across the year. They thrives on the compacted math environment and loved the class. They didn’t get a 230 and so now they don’t continue? That’s just wrong. They are doing well and no less equipped to do well in math 5/6 than any of their fellow students.

Hang your ego on something else.

PP, I understand your frustration, but you are answering a troll.

That is what I was going to say too. Ignore the troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.

So 90th%? Sorry, but that is crap, particularly as our DC’s class didn’t even cover all of the material.

I think that is the point... if they didn't cover the material and don't know it, compacting curriculum and moving forward in addition to what was missed already would not be beneficial.

The same would be true of all kids in that class unless they had outside support and tutoring to cover that material. So much for equity, especially in the pandemic. So curious how this will impact DCs class where many of the kids were in the care of cousins and older siblings and just joining class and submitting assignments was a big deal. Such a crappy way for the county to manage this. Let’s be as disruptive as possible to kids midstream.

They covered all the material at our school. Not sure which schools are failing to keep up and why.

Ours too. I think its parents just justifying why their kids aren't doing well and don't feel like getting involved and monitoring so they are blaming the school instead.

JFC, I do more than monitor my kid; I check their homework and ensure they get the concepts covered. My child got straight As - and strong As - across the year. They thrives on the compacted math environment and loved the class. They didn’t get a 230 and so now they don’t continue? That’s just wrong. They are doing well and no less equipped to do well in math 5/6 than any of their fellow students.

Hang your ego on something else.

Of course they will be allowed to continue but maybe you need to supplement if they aren't meeting the benchmark.

[Anonymous]

^^ What are you talking about, PP? The whole point of this thread is that they won’t be allowed to continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.

So 90th%? Sorry, but that is crap, particularly as our DC’s class didn’t even cover all of the material.

I think that is the point... if they didn't cover the material and don't know it, compacting curriculum and moving forward in addition to what was missed already would not be beneficial.

The same would be true of all kids in that class unless they had outside support and tutoring to cover that material. So much for equity, especially in the pandemic. So curious how this will impact DCs class where many of the kids were in the care of cousins and older siblings and just joining class and submitting assignments was a big deal. Such a crappy way for the county to manage this. Let’s be as disruptive as possible to kids midstream.

They covered all the material at our school. Not sure which schools are failing to keep up and why.

Ours too. I think its parents just justifying why their kids aren't doing well and don't feel like getting involved and monitoring so they are blaming the school instead.

JFC, I do more than monitor my kid; I check their homework and ensure they get the concepts covered. My child got straight As - and strong As - across the year. They thrives on the compacted math environment and loved the class. They didn’t get a 230 and so now they don’t continue? That’s just wrong. They are doing well and no less equipped to do well in math 5/6 than any of their fellow students.

Hang your ego on something else.

I can't like this post enough! My kid hasn't missed anything on an EOM since first quarter. Not just A's but 100%, my child routinely is at the top of the class on when they do the prep games for the EOMs and the sprints. I seriously doubt my kid will be getting a 238, they simply don't test well on these tests. I suspect compacted will be gone by the time my current 2nd grader is heading to 4th and that child always scores in the 90s on Map. This is about elimination of the program, and they found a convenient justification with the pandemic.

[Anonymous]

For the 5/6 parents saying it was all covered, the linked document earlier shows at least geometry and statistics were omitted.
Here's the geometry that was omitted:
Solve real-world and mathematical problems involving area, surface
area, and volume. (omitted)
● Find the area of right triangles, other triangles, special quadrilaterals,
and polygons and apply to real-world problems. (omitted)
● Find the volume of a right rectangular prism with fractional edge
lengths. (omitted)
● Draw polygons in the coordinate plane given coordinates for the
vertices; use coordinates to find the length of a side joining points with
the same first coordinate or the same second coordinate. (omitted)
● Represent three-dimensional figures using nets made up of rectangles
and triangles, and use the nets to find the surface area of these figures.
(omitted)

[Anonymous]

compacted math was hastily planned the first year of 2.0 implementation when 3rd grade parents were told all students were being pulled back to on level math. Previously students would be advanced a year (or even 2 years) of math.

MCPS has been planning and piloting a new curriculum for 3-4 years now, correct? One thing the new curriculum was supposed to address was the need for enrichment. What is going on in this county? Why are we still talking about compacted math? Why is curriculum planning so bad?

I think many parents would be fine with moving everyone to math 3, 4, 5 classes in ES if there was a true enriched/honors class where kids in ES could delve deeper into concepts. Kids who are ready can then go into pre-algebra in 6th grade, algebra in 7th, then double up geometry and algebra II in 8th if they want to be able to take linear algebra eventually (a small percentage of kids).

My middle kid did not make the cut for compacted math by 1 point the first year it was implemented (there were only 5 kids in the whole school that qualified), but she was allowed to skip math 6 and go right into IM in 6th grade based on map scores. The county math curriculum is still a mess. It is embarrassing that we don't have a consistent path of enriched math in ES.