Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that that he understands that being BRF is dangerous.

He and Meg did not feel they or their children were well protected in their position with the BRF so they did something about it. I think most would do the same.

I sympathize with him, but let's get the timelines straight. They were well protected until they said they wanted to live separate lives...and then we drift into have my cake and eat it too land. The biggest thing I register from them is shock that everything was taken away. It seems like originally they wanted to establish some sort of principality in Burundi or whatnot where could be the Queens commonwealth outreach, they could podcast to their heart's content and return home for galas, but not do the old age home visits and all that boring stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised by the level of vitriol in the comments sections of the UK tabloids articles, but it’s a bit shocking to see the hatemongering against Meghan here on an overwhelmingly American forum. What is it, if not reaction to her being an ‘uppity’ woman of color?

I’d love to know how many of you reviling her are MAGA voters.

Not a MAGA and could literally not care less about her race. It’s interesting and infuriating that we can’t not like someone without being accused of it having something to do with her race. You know you don’t have to like people just because of their race right? I can not like her personality.

DP. Here's the thing, though. The tabloid editors/owners/reporters are racist or willing to traffic in racist stereotypes. We know this because there are explicit examples of this. Maybe those explicit examples are 1% of their coverage. The rest of the negative coverage is not explicitly racist, but it's being put out there by racists and is influencing your opinion of Meghan. Now you say that you are basing your opinion not on race. Fine, you're not racist. But you are failing to acknowledge that most of what you know about Meghan has been presented to you by tabloids that are.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised by the level of vitriol in the comments sections of the UK tabloids articles, but it’s a bit shocking to see the hatemongering against Meghan here on an overwhelmingly American forum. What is it, if not reaction to her being an ‘uppity’ woman of color?

I’d love to know how many of you reviling her are MAGA voters.

Not a MAGA and could literally not care less about her race. It’s interesting and infuriating that we can’t not like someone without being accused of it having something to do with her race. You know you don’t have to like people just because of their race right? I can not like her personality.

I’m as liberal as you can get and hate her because she is better off than 99.999% of people in this world and instead of ignoring the tabloids like the Middleton one does, she spends her fame on whining about her situation. Half a million are dead from Covid in this country, kids haven’t been in school for a year, there is a climate crisis going on, more people than ever are hungry and homeless in this country- and you go on Oprah and talk about how some tabloids made you cry? So you moved to Hollywood for privacy? JFC, what an out of touch fool she is. Who gives a shit about what some crusty old Brit told her about her baby? If you’re going to bring down that toxic family, at least bring up Prince Andrew. She doesn’t care about anyone but herself though.

Yes! Extremely unlikeable.

Honestly this was my take as well. (I’m progressive as well so...). But the whole thing reeked of privilege. While I completely get that living under the thumb of the Royal Family would be stifling, I also couldn’t help thinking how damn privileged they are and whining publicly about all of these slights was pretty tone deaf. Here we have so much suffering in the world, people really struggling day in & day out, and Meghan Markle wants people to feel sorry for HER! Sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they have a chance. They have some infusions of cash and they live near friends (Harry has friends there too). They are not as isolated as we would have thought. Good for them. I wish them well. It is hard to walk away from a toxic environment, especially when the people inside have so much power over you.

I think given their significant childhood family trauma and mental issues on both sides. This is going to flake out bad down the road.

They have been together only 2 years for godssakes .

I have to agree. I grew up with a similar situation as Meghan and the only reason I’m still married is because my husbands family was sane and normal so I had a model for how to be in a healthy marriage (and even then it took years of therapy to undue issues). Two damaged people like that, plus her being an actress, this is going to make for a good divorce bestseller in a few years.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised by the level of vitriol in the comments sections of the UK tabloids articles, but it’s a bit shocking to see the hatemongering against Meghan here on an overwhelmingly American forum. What is it, if not reaction to her being an ‘uppity’ woman of color?

I’d love to know how many of you reviling her are MAGA voters.

Voted for Obama and Biden. I don’t like her she reminds me of an NPD friend I once had.

It's amazing anyone would bring politics into this. Seriously pp get over the MAGA or take it somewhere else.

Meghan simply doesn't fool most people, Harry yes. Her phony mental break was another ploy to get him and her away from his family.

Turns out Meghan's family and her own sister were right about her. Even her sister says she knew her role going into the marriage. Everyone knew she was going to play the race card, sure enough right on Oprah, lol.

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Anonymous wrote:This woman acts like she just escaped as a POW. While living in Tyler Perry’s freaking house. And then a $15M Montecito mansion. How embarrassing.

Omg. Give me a Dubonnet cocktail and afternoon tea. A long hike in the Scottish countryside. I would do just fine in a life of seclusion. They can say whatever they want about me. I’d go on living my best life in private. Kate can win. I’ll play bad cop.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no chance self-made Oprah has any respect for this spoiled conniving mentally ill common opportunist.

Oprah used this lying woman and she’s too dumb to see it.

Oprah did not buy it. Her mannerisms and tone were telling that she was not buying it.

Human Resources? Really? That was when it had completely flown the coop.

My 15-year old son said "she went to see Toby?". I spit my drink out on that one. We had just finished the entire Office series.

Your 15-year-old son watched the interview? I have a son that age and he could not be less interested.

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Anonymous wrote:Will Harry (6th in line) single handedly end the monarchy?

I'm convinced Kate and William are going to have a 4th child after this interview to push him down to #7

But the real question is will they teach their fourth baby to be as racist as they are? Only time will tell...

They can't. Royal babies cost too much money. There were already questions when they had a 3rd. Take a look at all the other royals - the Queen's children only have 2 a piece and the Queen's grandchildren only have 2 a piece (except Kate).

You think that's a coincidence? Some magical combination of infertility and only liking two kids that affected 12 different couples?

You are forgetting Zara who is having her third.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they have a chance. They have some infusions of cash and they live near friends (Harry has friends there too). They are not as isolated as we would have thought. Good for them. I wish them well. It is hard to walk away from a toxic environment, especially when the people inside have so much power over you.

I think given their significant childhood family trauma and mental issues on both sides. This is going to flake out bad down the road.

They have been together only 2 years for godssakes .

I have to agree. I grew up with a similar situation as Meghan and the only reason I’m still married is because my husbands family was sane and normal so I had a model for how to be in a healthy marriage (and even then it took years of therapy to undue issues). Two damaged people like that, plus her being an actress, this is going to make for a good divorce bestseller in a few years.

My husband came from a f@cked up family and boy did it have an impact in midlife. When Archie gets to be an older kid and Harry starts seeing himself at that age it will all come out and in a bad way.

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Obviously the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

There is a difference between what Americans "know" about the Royals - even those who follow the Royals - and the protocols and internal procedures that govern within the Royal family. You don't fully know how it's going to be until you're in it. For example, I thought her point about being surprised at having to curtsy to the Queen in private is understandable.

It seems like the crux of the disagreement is that Harry's family, when presented with the opportunity to act as his family, instead fell back on Royal protocol and the Institution and that was very hurtful to him. I can sort of see his point. The press was attacking Meghan and all sorts of racial issues were surfacing which put things in a different light than the typical bad press that other members of the family had received. His family refused to defend them and refused to provide security for Archie. That may be protocol, but his point seemed to be that circumstances warranted a change from the protocol and his family refused. Instead of being treated like Harry, a loved member of the family and the son of Princess Diana and the future King who was concerned about his wife and son's well-being in part due to the actions, or lack thereof, of his family vis-a-vis the press, he was treated at arms-length. Then, once he stepped down, he was denied his own security detail and his father cut him off.

I imagine that chain of events would be really hurtful to most people who have been led to believe that they are an important and valued member of a "family."

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"I was an outsider the day that I met the 13-year-old princess who would one day become my wife. And after all these years…I still am. We all are. Everyone in this system is a lost lonely irrelevant outsider apart from the one person, the only person, that matters. She is the oxygen we all breathe. The essence of all our duty. Your problem, if I may say is you seem to be confused about who that person is." Phillip to Diana in the Crown Season 4.

I couldn't help thinking about this while watching that interview. Had Meghan done her research before marrying into that family, she would have known that above all it's duty to the Queen that matters and she, not Meghan is the center of their universe. If she wasn't prepared to fit the mold that the family demands of its members, then she shouldn't have joined it. Yes, they're racist (well some of them), yes, it's full of rules and order and protocol, and yes, it is all about the Queen and the protection of the crown. There was no way she was going to fit the mold--none. You can't go up against the establishment and the fact that she thinks she could just goes to show how naive she is. Maybe all of this would have been handeled better if Harry preemptively told the Queen that he and Meghan intend to give up their royal duties and live a private life in the US and had been upfront from the beginning. Harry took a huge risk leaving his family, but it sounds like he too, no longer wanted to serve the Crown and that he felt it was his time to go. I hope they can find peace and happiness and that Harry can repair the relationship with his father and brother.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised by the level of vitriol in the comments sections of the UK tabloids articles, but it’s a bit shocking to see the hatemongering against Meghan here on an overwhelmingly American forum. What is it, if not reaction to her being an ‘uppity’ woman of color?

I’d love to know how many of you reviling her are MAGA voters.

Its similar to the hate directed towards Hillary Baldwin. Nothing to do with race and everything to do with being lied to and deceived.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no chance self-made Oprah has any respect for this spoiled conniving mentally ill common opportunist.

Oprah used this lying woman and she’s too dumb to see it.

Oprah did not buy it. Her mannerisms and tone were telling that she was not buying it.

Human Resources? Really? That was when it had completely flown the coop.

My 15-year old son said "she went to see Toby?". I spit my drink out on that one. We had just finished the entire Office series.

Your 15-year-old son watched the interview? I have a son that age and he could not be less interested.

No. They were trying to get me to put on the NBA all-star game. He was there for just a few minutes and they even said “you think teenage boys are interested in this?!” So I recorded the rest and watched when they went to bed. But, the side bar comments were entertaining.

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Anonymous wrote:This woman acts like she just escaped as a POW. While living in Tyler Perry’s freaking house. And then a $15M Montecito mansion. How embarrassing.

Omg. Give me a Dubonnet cocktail and afternoon tea. A long hike in the Scottish countryside. I would do just fine in a life of seclusion. They can say whatever they want about me. I’d go on living my best life in private. Kate can win. I’ll play bad cop.

Seriously. Go to some English countryside with the kids, make your one appearance a week, collect your money from granny, rinse and repeat. People have to figure out how to get food on the table and pay their rent, they have real world problems, and she’s sad that her sister in law made her cry over some shoes. That woman’s got too much time on her hands and not enough to do.

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Anonymous wrote:This woman acts like she just escaped as a POW. While living in Tyler Perry’s freaking house. And then a $15M Montecito mansion. How embarrassing.

Omg. Give me a Dubonnet cocktail and afternoon tea. A long hike in the Scottish countryside. I would do just fine in a life of seclusion. They can say whatever they want about me. I’d go on living my best life in private. Kate can win. I’ll play bad cop.

Haha, same