Deep Racism Problems at NCS and STA: Questions/Answers we can't get through admissions

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone or any school that makes decisions based on anonymous posts deserves what they get. I read some of the posts. Even the former head of Diversity at NCS gets tossed under the bus. While some of the older posts are plausible do you really believe a current student told another that if this was a few years ago I’d lynch you?

You're talking about a school where kids photoshopped black faces onto holocaust corpses in 2019. So yes, I believe these posts are plausible. Good grief.

What was so grotesque and troublesome about this event which happened TWO year ago is:

Not only did the kids do it but they felt confident enough to do it openly at school. Clearly they didn't fear repercussions or expulsion for doing this. They assumed the school would have their back or that it would just be laughed off.
It really shows how intrenched racism is in parts of this school community.

And yet they keep on admitting some of these families, despite the fact that the kids or the parents or both have records that make quite clear how they view these issues and how they have mistreated others on the basis of race, national origin, or sexual orientation. And for what? Seriously, for what?

4 years ago and they were expelled . There were those who said “ first offense “ and “ but they are young and they fell into an internet dark web parents didn’t know about “

That argument lost and they were expelled

Yeah schools have a role to set a high moral standard and educate young people , including socially, but ultimately kids comes from families and morals are learned at home - or not unlearned at home - and to blame a school - like some posters seem to relish doing is kinda unrealistic. A bad apple or two can get in . The school expelled them - the only one gloating over what they did is YOU

So, do you want improvement or more opportunities to gloat ?

Different poster. Sorry but your post is factually incorrect. It was 2.5 years ago to be exact. It was spring of 2018. Yes the boys were expelled but they received a lot of support by parents and kids. Victims received zero support. In fact a few boys put the names of the boys that did this on their helmets to honor them.

Did the school insist they take those off the helmets?

I don’t think they knew. That came out after the fact.

I am a different poster and I so not think STA encourages racism or elitism in the least. I really don’t.

I and many others think where they have failed is by admitting too many families that don’t want diversity or inclusion and who are vocally and publicly against BLM and against DEI and some against LGBTQ openly. So now they are left with a mess which will takes years to clean up after these families graduate from the Close.

I'm white from upper NW and everyone I Know at STA comes from one social group (I could even say clique). The rest of us (the normal Joe's) know not to even apply. Why? Because these families have been turning their nose up at us for years in preschools, sports teams, etc.
Pick the coldest/most distant parents on your kid's team and they're bound to be STA parents. Plus we (the journalists, the government workers, the public school families) know we're not getting into STA. The school will follow the money and prestige every time. We know our place and STA knows what they want. The stupid thing
is that they keep wondering why they have such issues with race and class. Well, duh. It's obvious to anyone who has any contact with STA. Stop preferentially admitting the wealthy assholes of Washington and their friends and your problem will be reduced by half overnight.

My DH and I are two government workers on public salaries, and we know many other families at the school who are as well. We also know many journalists, research scientists at NIH, single parents, formerly public school parents, parents who are academics or teachers. There are many normal Joe’s and Josettes at the school. Your poorly written, sloganeering rant against STA is informed by stereotyping and self-pity rather than any real knowledge of the school.

Everyone I know like this has a grandparent footing the entire tuition bill, paying off the mortgage, paying for expensive travel, etc. It’s easy to work in a normal field when all of your schooling and housing expenses are covered by the family trust.

I guess our family is weird. We foot the bill ourselves. No family money. Two-professor family. There are more than us than you think.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone or any school that makes decisions based on anonymous posts deserves what they get. I read some of the posts. Even the former head of Diversity at NCS gets tossed under the bus. While some of the older posts are plausible do you really believe a current student told another that if this was a few years ago I’d lynch you?

You're talking about a school where kids photoshopped black faces onto holocaust corpses in 2019. So yes, I believe these posts are plausible. Good grief.

What was so grotesque and troublesome about this event which happened TWO year ago is:

Not only did the kids do it but they felt confident enough to do it openly at school. Clearly they didn't fear repercussions or expulsion for doing this. They assumed the school would have their back or that it would just be laughed off.
It really shows how intrenched racism is in parts of this school community.

And yet they keep on admitting some of these families, despite the fact that the kids or the parents or both have records that make quite clear how they view these issues and how they have mistreated others on the basis of race, national origin, or sexual orientation. And for what? Seriously, for what?

4 years ago and they were expelled . There were those who said “ first offense “ and “ but they are young and they fell into an internet dark web parents didn’t know about “

That argument lost and they were expelled

Yeah schools have a role to set a high moral standard and educate young people , including socially, but ultimately kids comes from families and morals are learned at home - or not unlearned at home - and to blame a school - like some posters seem to relish doing is kinda unrealistic. A bad apple or two can get in . The school expelled them - the only one gloating over what they did is YOU

So, do you want improvement or more opportunities to gloat ?

Different poster. Sorry but your post is factually incorrect. It was 2.5 years ago to be exact. It was spring of 2018. Yes the boys were expelled but they received a lot of support by parents and kids. Victims received zero support. In fact a few boys put the names of the boys that did this on their helmets to honor them.

Did the school insist they take those off the helmets?

I don’t think they knew. That came out after the fact.

I am a different poster and I so not think STA encourages racism or elitism in the least. I really don’t.

I and many others think where they have failed is by admitting too many families that don’t want diversity or inclusion and who are vocally and publicly against BLM and against DEI and some against LGBTQ openly. So now they are left with a mess which will takes years to clean up after these families graduate from the Close.

I'm white from upper NW and everyone I Know at STA comes from one social group (I could even say clique). The rest of us (the normal Joe's) know not to even apply. Why? Because these families have been turning their nose up at us for years in preschools, sports teams, etc.
Pick the coldest/most distant parents on your kid's team and they're bound to be STA parents. Plus we (the journalists, the government workers, the public school families) know we're not getting into STA. The school will follow the money and prestige every time. We know our place and STA knows what they want. The stupid thing
is that they keep wondering why they have such issues with race and class. Well, duh. It's obvious to anyone who has any contact with STA. Stop preferentially admitting the wealthy assholes of Washington and their friends and your problem will be reduced by half overnight.

My DH and I are two government workers on public salaries, and we know many other families at the school who are as well. We also know many journalists, research scientists at NIH, single parents, formerly public school parents, parents who are academics or teachers. There are many normal Joe’s and Josettes at the school. Your poorly written, sloganeering rant against STA is informed by stereotyping and self-pity rather than any real knowledge of the school.

Everyone I know like this has a grandparent footing the entire tuition bill, paying off the mortgage, paying for expensive travel, etc. It’s easy to work in a normal field when all of your schooling and housing expenses are covered by the family trust.

I guess our family is weird. We foot the bill ourselves. No family money. Two-professor family. There are more than us than you think.

I'm an NCS parent in your financial demographic (fed plus professor) and I feel like we're on an island by ourselves. There are next to zero families like ours at STA/NCS and I know a lot of families.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone or any school that makes decisions based on anonymous posts deserves what they get. I read some of the posts. Even the former head of Diversity at NCS gets tossed under the bus. While some of the older posts are plausible do you really believe a current student told another that if this was a few years ago I’d lynch you?

You're talking about a school where kids photoshopped black faces onto holocaust corpses in 2019. So yes, I believe these posts are plausible. Good grief.

What was so grotesque and troublesome about this event which happened TWO year ago is:

Not only did the kids do it but they felt confident enough to do it openly at school. Clearly they didn't fear repercussions or expulsion for doing this. They assumed the school would have their back or that it would just be laughed off.
It really shows how intrenched racism is in parts of this school community.

And yet they keep on admitting some of these families, despite the fact that the kids or the parents or both have records that make quite clear how they view these issues and how they have mistreated others on the basis of race, national origin, or sexual orientation. And for what? Seriously, for what?

4 years ago and they were expelled . There were those who said “ first offense “ and “ but they are young and they fell into an internet dark web parents didn’t know about “

That argument lost and they were expelled

Yeah schools have a role to set a high moral standard and educate young people , including socially, but ultimately kids comes from families and morals are learned at home - or not unlearned at home - and to blame a school - like some posters seem to relish doing is kinda unrealistic. A bad apple or two can get in . The school expelled them - the only one gloating over what they did is YOU

So, do you want improvement or more opportunities to gloat ?

Different poster. Sorry but your post is factually incorrect. It was 2.5 years ago to be exact. It was spring of 2018. Yes the boys were expelled but they received a lot of support by parents and kids. Victims received zero support. In fact a few boys put the names of the boys that did this on their helmets to honor them.

Did the school insist they take those off the helmets?

I don’t think they knew. That came out after the fact.

I am a different poster and I so not think STA encourages racism or elitism in the least. I really don’t.

I and many others think where they have failed is by admitting too many families that don’t want diversity or inclusion and who are vocally and publicly against BLM and against DEI and some against LGBTQ openly. So now they are left with a mess which will takes years to clean up after these families graduate from the Close.

I'm white from upper NW and everyone I Know at STA comes from one social group (I could even say clique). The rest of us (the normal Joe's) know not to even apply. Why? Because these families have been turning their nose up at us for years in preschools, sports teams, etc.
Pick the coldest/most distant parents on your kid's team and they're bound to be STA parents. Plus we (the journalists, the government workers, the public school families) know we're not getting into STA. The school will follow the money and prestige every time. We know our place and STA knows what they want. The stupid thing
is that they keep wondering why they have such issues with race and class. Well, duh. It's obvious to anyone who has any contact with STA. Stop preferentially admitting the wealthy assholes of Washington and their friends and your problem will be reduced by half overnight.

My DH and I are two government workers on public salaries, and we know many other families at the school who are as well. We also know many journalists, research scientists at NIH, single parents, formerly public school parents, parents who are academics or teachers. There are many normal Joe’s and Josettes at the school. Your poorly written, sloganeering rant against STA is informed by stereotyping and self-pity rather than any real knowledge of the school.

Everyone I know like this has a grandparent footing the entire tuition bill, paying off the mortgage, paying for expensive travel, etc. It’s easy to work in a normal field when all of your schooling and housing expenses are covered by the family trust.

I guess our family is weird. We foot the bill ourselves. No family money. Two-professor family. There are more than us than you think.

My son's step- GP is Dutch, considers Private school an obscene luxury and unnecessary. Though their retirement funds are modest anyway, their view is GP's support comes in form of Christmas gifts and Birthday presents- as in maybe DC will get the new iPhone, after all.

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STA is so racist and classicist.

I remember back around 200 when the son of some guy named Gore, I think he been VP at the time, got into trouble for smoking pot and STA suspended him and that Gore guy took great umbrage at their lack of respect for him and STA told him to pack his trash and leave. And guess what he did!

Took his act down to Sidwell and of course that Gore person got all huffy and told them to take his name off of everything and not to ever refer to him as an alum. And guess what? STA did. (Kid later did a stint in rehab but I guess that's beside the point.)

My point? These threads are ridiculous. I've been a parent on the Close for many years and while I'm certain someone has done something to someone (microaggression-grow-up people) to make them feel slighted by and large both NCS and STA are great schools that do not kowtow to money, power, or privilege.

I know you hate it when people write big checks but you know what? It's a private school. Thank them.

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Anonymous wrote:STA is so racist and classicist.

I remember back around 200 when the son of some guy named Gore, I think he been VP at the time, got into trouble for smoking pot and STA suspended him and that Gore guy took great umbrage at their lack of respect for him and STA told him to pack his trash and leave. And guess what he did!

Took his act down to Sidwell and of course that Gore person got all huffy and told them to take his name off of everything and not to ever refer to him as an alum. And guess what? STA did. (Kid later did a stint in rehab but I guess that's beside the point.)

My point? These threads are ridiculous. I've been a parent on the Close for many years and while I'm certain someone has done something to someone (microaggression-grow-up people) to make them feel slighted by and large both NCS and STA are great schools that do not kowtow to money, power, or privilege.

I know you hate it when people write big checks but you know what? It's a private school. Thank them.

We know they teach the classics, but are the families mean to others based on the amount of money they have?

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We know they teach the classics, but are the families mean to others based on the amount of money they have?

Absolutely not.

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The elder Gore recently headlined the annual fundraising gala (albeit virtually), so I guess he's not that mad about the treatment sonny received.

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Anonymous wrote:The elder Gore recently headlined the annual fundraising gala (albeit virtually), so I guess he's not that mad about the treatment sonny received.

Yes and he was wonderful! Very inspiring apolitical speech.

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In what world is anything deemed “deep” XYZ after reading an anonymous school blog that may or may not even require a login.

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22-page thread...

If only people directly associated with the school and not the anti-STA regulars had posted it would probably only be 2 and far more helpful to the OP's original question.

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Glad Al finally grew a set but it doesn't change what happened nor does it change the past.

[Anonymous]

NP. Chevy crowd at Landon is as bad as at STA. One even took down BLM signs in their neighborhood this summer and posts really offensive comments on a regular basis.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Chevy crowd at Landon is as bad as at STA. One even took down BLM signs in their neighborhood this summer and posts really offensive comments on a regular basis.

False. Landon crowd worse. And yes, they had a field day taking down BLM signs this summer that kids in the neighborhood were posting. Parents are much more the problem than kids generally.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Chevy crowd at Landon is as bad as at STA. One even took down BLM signs in their neighborhood this summer and posts really offensive comments on a regular basis.

False. Landon crowd worse. And yes, they had a field day taking down BLM signs this summer that kids in the neighborhood were posting. Parents are much more the problem than kids generally.

Of course they’re worse but that’s kind of like dog bites man, isn’t it.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Chevy crowd at Landon is as bad as at STA. One even took down BLM signs in their neighborhood this summer and posts really offensive comments on a regular basis.

False. Landon crowd worse. And yes, they had a field day taking down BLM signs this summer that kids in the neighborhood were posting. Parents are much more the problem than kids generally.

Spring Valley?