Cheating Scandal Triggering TJ Change
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Anonymous
DP. Why are we even talking about who is 'inherently more deserving?" TJ shouldn't be picking kids based on inherent ability/raw aptitude when motivation and hard work are such important components of succeeding at TJ. I'm white, and I have no problem with admitting that in general, Asian families prioritize education more than other families and the kids tend to work much harder. Asians most likely are deserving of more seats, since they're putting in much more effort than everyone else. I think it's gross to act as if motivation and effort equals privilege, and then completely discount them so they can reduce Asians at TJ. |
Anonymous
Your casual comment belies your perspective. In short, you believe that seats should be distributed according to race. DP - there is a difference between "seats should be distributed according to race" and "barriers to certain communities should be removed". YOUR comment belies YOUR perspective that certain races are inherently more deserving of seats than others. I think what your missing is that wealthy schools where prep is common were gobbling up all the seats making it nearly impossible for students in less wealthy areas that are often URMs to compete or maybe you just don't want your kids in school with poor and have issues with diversity. |
Anonymous
The range does seem kind of extreme but I think it's a function of how flawed the selection process was and still is. I'm not against hard work but the prep arms race that many parents engage in throws a wrench into the process. |
Anonymous
Maybe so, but you could look at the results of the old one and see that was too. Any person with integrity can appreciate the effort to try to reverse it. |
Anonymous
The old process was very classist too. It favored just the people who invested big $$$ in prep. The new one isn't perfect but at least it's a little little bit more diverse. |
Anonymous
| I wasn't talking about the Battlebots kid. It appears that kid is not white and the kid I am referring to I think is in Fairfax not Herndon. |
Anonymous
Not if you pretend you are using them because you value diversity. |
Anonymous
No, they’re explicitly illegal. |
Anonymous
Your casual comment belies your perspective. In short, you believe that seats should be distributed according to race. DP - there is a difference between "seats should be distributed according to race" and "barriers to certain communities should be removed". YOUR comment belies YOUR perspective that certain races are inherently more deserving of seats than others. ---- Ah yes. When you can't attack the logic, attack the motive. I said nada/zip/nothing regarding race. Removing merit aspects and adding subjective measures to admission criteria ensures a degree of randomness and opens the door to biased essay assessment, both of which will likely result in less-qualified admissions. |
Anonymous
DP - there is a difference between "seats should be distributed according to race" and "barriers to certain communities should be removed". YOUR comment belies YOUR perspective that certain races are inherently more deserving of seats than others. ---- Ah yes. When you can't attack the logic, attack the motive. I said nada/zip/nothing regarding race. Removing merit aspects and adding subjective measures to admission criteria ensures a degree of randomness and opens the door to biased essay assessment, both of which will likely result in less-qualified admissions. The term 'overrepresented' is a racist dog whistle. By this group, you mean 'Asians,' who simply completed on the same playing field as everyone else. You can't claim privilege, because many come over here as immigrants without much money, and they are grossly under reported for FRM. You hate them because they are not on the 'plantation' as the other races kept in perpetual subservience. Congratulations, you are officially a bigot! |
Anonymous
DP - there is a difference between "seats should be distributed according to race" and "barriers to certain communities should be removed". YOUR comment belies YOUR perspective that certain races are inherently more deserving of seats than others. ---- Ah yes. When you can't attack the logic, attack the motive. I said nada/zip/nothing regarding race. Removing merit aspects and adding subjective measures to admission criteria ensures a degree of randomness and opens the door to biased essay assessment, both of which will likely result in less-qualified admissions. The term 'overrepresented' is a racist dog whistle. By this group, you mean 'Asians,' who simply completed on the same playing field as everyone else. You can't claim privilege, because many come over here as immigrants without much money, and they are grossly under reported for FRM. You hate them because they are not on the 'plantation' as the other races kept in perpetual subservience. Congratulations, you are officially a bigot! That’s right! The Asians are smarter than the other minorities, therefore they deserve those spots at TJ and at the Ivy’s. With those credentials they will be able to work along next to us white folks. |
Anonymous
---- Ah yes. When you can't attack the logic, attack the motive. I said nada/zip/nothing regarding race. Removing merit aspects and adding subjective measures to admission criteria ensures a degree of randomness and opens the door to biased essay assessment, both of which will likely result in less-qualified admissions. The term 'overrepresented' is a racist dog whistle. By this group, you mean 'Asians,' who simply completed on the same playing field as everyone else. You can't claim privilege, because many come over here as immigrants without much money, and they are grossly under reported for FRM. You hate them because they are not on the 'plantation' as the other races kept in perpetual subservience. Congratulations, you are officially a bigot! That’s right! The Asians are smarter than the other minorities, therefore they deserve those spots at TJ and at the Ivy’s. With those credentials they will be able to work along next to us white folks. They can even be considered honorary whit folks. |
Anonymous
No one has claimed that they're smarter. What they generally are is harder working and more motivated. Those sound like excellent qualities for TJ or future success. Why are you discounting them? |
Anonymous
Because TJ is best understood as an outstanding opportunity, rather than as an outcome or a prize to be won. |
Anonymous
What colleges do is they say they are using diversity factors, then they have quotas that they implement behind the scenes. The Supreme Court upheld this, but Antonin Scalia called them out on this, noting their look for diversity seemed to result in each race staying within a narrow range each year. Native Americans 1%, etc. |