8/27 APS Work Session—Elementary Boundaries

[Anonymous]

Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

Here we go again. The bitter former Henry parent who blames Montessori for “taking” Henry and getting rezoned to Drew.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

It wasn’t a requirement, it was a preference and it was never practiced because up until a couple years ago there was no waitlist at elementary Montessori. So bitter.

[Anonymous]

Why was there no waitlist?

[Anonymous]

Why are there Montessori K classes at Fleet? Did the program outgrow the old Henry building before they even moved?

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

It wasn’t a requirement, it was a preference and it was never practiced because up until a couple years ago there was no waitlist at elementary Montessori. So bitter.

Duh. If it was a full day preschool the waitlist would be endless. That’s why it’s a subsidy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are there Montessori K classes at Fleet? Did the program outgrow the old Henry building before they even moved?

Montessori classes span multiple ages, so there aren’t dedicated Montessori kindergarten classes. The are Montessori preschool/K classes at several APS elementaries, and then those students will go to the Montessori program at Henry or will move back to their neighborhood schools starting in first grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

It wasn’t a requirement, it was a preference and it was never practiced because up until a couple years ago there was no waitlist at elementary Montessori. So bitter.

Duh. If it was a full day preschool the waitlist would be endless. That’s why it’s a subsidy.

You’re confused. Montessori public preschool charges fees on sliding scale at at the top of the range are comparable to private preschool. The only kids being subsidized are those who by definition are not “rich”.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

It wasn’t a requirement, it was a preference and it was never practiced because up until a couple years ago there was no waitlist at elementary Montessori. So bitter.

Duh. If it was a full day preschool the waitlist would be endless. That’s why it’s a subsidy.

You’re confused. Montessori public preschool charges fees on sliding scale at at the top of the range are comparable to private preschool. The only kids being subsidized are those who by definition are not “rich”.

Then Arlington doesn't need to keep providing Montessori - parents can pay the same in private Montessori. But I don't believe that. How does the post-kindergarten tuition compare?

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

It wasn’t a requirement, it was a preference and it was never practiced because up until a couple years ago there was no waitlist at elementary Montessori. So bitter.

Duh. If it was a full day preschool the waitlist would be endless. That’s why it’s a subsidy.

You’re confused. Montessori public preschool charges fees on sliding scale at at the top of the range are comparable to private preschool. The only kids being subsidized are those who by definition are not “rich”.

Then Arlington doesn't need to keep providing Montessori - parents can pay the same in private Montessori. But I don't believe that. How does the post-kindergarten tuition compare?

And I mean compared to private Montessori, not just an average of general private preschools and schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

It wasn’t a requirement, it was a preference and it was never practiced because up until a couple years ago there was no waitlist at elementary Montessori. So bitter.

Duh. If it was a full day preschool the waitlist would be endless. That’s why it’s a subsidy.

You’re confused. Montessori public preschool charges fees on sliding scale at at the top of the range are comparable to private preschool. The only kids being subsidized are those who by definition are not “rich”.

Then Arlington doesn't need to keep providing Montessori - parents can pay the same in private Montessori. But I don't believe that. How does the post-kindergarten tuition compare?

And I mean compared to private Montessori, not just an average of general private preschools and schools.

Seriously?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

It wasn’t a requirement, it was a preference and it was never practiced because up until a couple years ago there was no waitlist at elementary Montessori. So bitter.

Duh. If it was a full day preschool the waitlist would be endless. That’s why it’s a subsidy.

You’re confused. Montessori public preschool charges fees on sliding scale at at the top of the range are comparable to private preschool. The only kids being subsidized are those who by definition are not “rich”.

Then Arlington doesn't need to keep providing Montessori - parents can pay the same in private Montessori. But I don't believe that. How does the post-kindergarten tuition compare?

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Wow you are confusing. What don't you believe, that preK tuition is a sliding scale? That 2/3 slots got 80% local household median or below? Or The fact that the rich actually have to pay full freight at public Montessori is for real? All true, look it up.
I look forward to the FRLs. I look forward to Montessori showing excellent results with a population that is economically and otherwise diverse. I look forward to the program expanding because of demand, and county taxpayers realizing it provides great bang for the in closing achievement gap, in part because it brings in tuition.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

It wasn’t a requirement, it was a preference and it was never practiced because up until a couple years ago there was no waitlist at elementary Montessori. So bitter.

Duh. If it was a full day preschool the waitlist would be endless. That’s why it’s a subsidy.

You’re confused. Montessori public preschool charges fees on sliding scale at at the top of the range are comparable to private preschool. The only kids being subsidized are those who by definition are not “rich”.

Then Arlington doesn't need to keep providing Montessori - parents can pay the same in private Montessori. But I don't believe that. How does the post-kindergarten tuition compare?

t

Wow you are confusing. What don't you believe, that preK tuition is a sliding scale? That 2/3 slots got 80% local household median or below? Or The fact that the rich actually have to pay full freight at public Montessori is for real? All true, look it up.
I look forward to the FRLs. I look forward to Montessori showing excellent results with a population that is economically and otherwise diverse. I look forward to the program expanding because of demand, and county taxpayers realizing it provides great bang for the in closing achievement gap, in part because it brings in tuition.

I don't believe APS Montessori is paying the same as private Montessori. I know there's a sliding scale and I've seen it. I know there's supposed to be a 2/3 seat set-aside for 80% median below; but I don't know that those seats are completely filled by such. I'd like to see how many are actually FRL-eligible, which is much farther below 80% median income - and that's a significant difference. Montessori keeps touting that it serves so many low-income students; but that doesn't automatically mean its FRL% is the 50% and up you see at other APS schools. And I would like to see the academic performance measures for those students. If the FRL% is lower and test scores are higher, I'd like to see that as potential support for the impacts of socioeconomic diversity to help bolster that argument systemwide.

People criticize Montessori as a subsidy for the rich because nobody in K-5 pays any tuition. So don't try to convince people that the program should expand because it brings in tuition. Preschool tuition is not paying for the costs of higher level Montessori. and Montessori does cost more.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see the FRL numbers for Montessori. ESPECIALLY 1-5. Finally it will be public how few disadvantaged kids are getting any benefit from this program. It's publicly subsidized specialty education. At least they FINALLY got rid of the "prior experience" requirement that was limiting any additional elementary enrollment to rich families who could afford private montessori preK. That was the best thing Tara Nattrass did.

The Montessori preschool is part time so requires a SAHM, so it was subsides for single earner households. If that second parent worked they likely would be over the 80%.

It wasn’t a requirement, it was a preference and it was never practiced because up until a couple years ago there was no waitlist at elementary Montessori. So bitter.

Duh. If it was a full day preschool the waitlist would be endless. That’s why it’s a subsidy.

You’re confused. Montessori public preschool charges fees on sliding scale at at the top of the range are comparable to private preschool. The only kids being subsidized are those who by definition are not “rich”.

Then Arlington doesn't need to keep providing Montessori - parents can pay the same in private Montessori. But I don't believe that. How does the post-kindergarten tuition compare?

t

Wow you are confusing. What don't you believe, that preK tuition is a sliding scale? That 2/3 slots got 80% local household median or below? Or The fact that the rich actually have to pay full freight at public Montessori is for real? All true, look it up.
I look forward to the FRLs. I look forward to Montessori showing excellent results with a population that is economically and otherwise diverse. I look forward to the program expanding because of demand, and county taxpayers realizing it provides great bang for the in closing achievement gap, in part because it brings in tuition.

I don't believe APS Montessori is paying the same as private Montessori. I know there's a sliding scale and I've seen it. I know there's supposed to be a 2/3 seat set-aside for 80% median below; but I don't know that those seats are completely filled by such. I'd like to see how many are actually FRL-eligible, which is much farther below 80% median income - and that's a significant difference. Montessori keeps touting that it serves so many low-income students; but that doesn't automatically mean its FRL% is the 50% and up you see at other APS schools. And I would like to see the academic performance measures for those students. If the FRL% is lower and test scores are higher, I'd like to see that as potential support for the impacts of socioeconomic diversity to help bolster that argument systemwide.

People criticize Montessori as a subsidy for the rich because nobody in K-5 pays any tuition. So don't try to convince people that the program should expand because it brings in tuition. Preschool tuition is not paying for the costs of higher level Montessori. and Montessori does cost more.

What exactly are you so amped up about? Did a gang of Montessori kids toilet paper your yard?