8/27 APS Work Session—Elementary Boundaries

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in Westover and am floored by the half dozen senior citizens who are obsessed with literally four trees. They are calling to put the project on hold, after having started to pay attention to a years-long process literally a week ago. They don't speak for me and are definitely the problem.

Yes. They do not represent the neighborhood or the community. They are all older busybodies and seem to forget we are building a school, not a park. I was at the meeting for awhile and, although I came in late, I still got the just of what was going on. APS is actually planting more trees than are required by the county, but that isn't good enough. And, of course, other old people who paid no attention until now are all too happy to get riled up. I can't wait until the board the approves the design so they can focus their late-to-the-party-have-no-idea-how-the-process-worked activism on something else.

haha - I live near the Safeway in Bluemont (the one off Wilson and George Mason) and it's the same there. NIMBYs killed a new Safeway because they wouldn't allow ANYthing to go on that site. No negotiations. So... we live with a subpar grocery store where the refrigeration goes out once a month.

Soviet Safeway is an institution!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm in Westover and am floored by the half dozen senior citizens who are obsessed with literally four trees. They are calling to put the project on hold, after having started to pay attention to a years-long process literally a week ago. They don't speak for me and are definitely the problem.

Yes. They do not represent the neighborhood or the community. They are all older busybodies and seem to forget we are building a school, not a park. I was at the meeting for awhile and, although I came in late, I still got the just of what was going on. APS is actually planting more trees than are required by the county, but that isn't good enough. And, of course, other old people who paid no attention until now are all too happy to get riled up. I can't wait until the board the approves the design so they can focus their late-to-the-party-have-no-idea-how-the-process-worked activism on something else.

haha - I live near the Safeway in Bluemont (the one off Wilson and George Mason) and it's the same there. NIMBYs killed a new Safeway because they wouldn't allow ANYthing to go on that site. No negotiations. So... we live with a subpar grocery store where the refrigeration goes out once a month.

Really?? It’s like a time warp back to the grocery stores of my youth in the 80’s. I was wondering why they hadn’t updated it. Mystery solved.

They didn't want affordable housing there. That was proposed years ago, and that's what they fought against.

Are you sure it was affordable housing? Thought it was just apartments on top?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm in Westover and am floored by the half dozen senior citizens who are obsessed with literally four trees. They are calling to put the project on hold, after having started to pay attention to a years-long process literally a week ago. They don't speak for me and are definitely the problem.

Yes. They do not represent the neighborhood or the community. They are all older busybodies and seem to forget we are building a school, not a park. I was at the meeting for awhile and, although I came in late, I still got the just of what was going on. APS is actually planting more trees than are required by the county, but that isn't good enough. And, of course, other old people who paid no attention until now are all too happy to get riled up. I can't wait until the board the approves the design so they can focus their late-to-the-party-have-no-idea-how-the-process-worked activism on something else.

haha - I live near the Safeway in Bluemont (the one off Wilson and George Mason) and it's the same there. NIMBYs killed a new Safeway because they wouldn't allow ANYthing to go on that site. No negotiations. So... we live with a subpar grocery store where the refrigeration goes out once a month.

Really?? It’s like a time warp back to the grocery stores of my youth in the 80’s. I was wondering why they hadn’t updated it. Mystery solved.

They didn't want affordable housing there. That was proposed years ago, and that's what they fought against.

Are you sure it was affordable housing? Thought it was just apartments on top?

Yeah 160 apartments. 10 affordable units.

https://www.arlnow.com/2013/04/25/bluemont-residents-reject-proposed-safeway-development/

[Anonymous]

Wait! A new Safeway was shut down b/c Arlington wouldn't let the developer build it w/o affordable housing or because the developer wanted to add housing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm in Westover and am floored by the half dozen senior citizens who are obsessed with literally four trees. They are calling to put the project on hold, after having started to pay attention to a years-long process literally a week ago. They don't speak for me and are definitely the problem.

Yes. They do not represent the neighborhood or the community. They are all older busybodies and seem to forget we are building a school, not a park. I was at the meeting for awhile and, although I came in late, I still got the just of what was going on. APS is actually planting more trees than are required by the county, but that isn't good enough. And, of course, other old people who paid no attention until now are all too happy to get riled up. I can't wait until the board the approves the design so they can focus their late-to-the-party-have-no-idea-how-the-process-worked activism on something else.

haha - I live near the Safeway in Bluemont (the one off Wilson and George Mason) and it's the same there. NIMBYs killed a new Safeway because they wouldn't allow ANYthing to go on that site. No negotiations. So... we live with a subpar grocery store where the refrigeration goes out once a month.

Soviet Safeway is an institution!

I thought Soviet Safeway was in DC. Maybe near DuPont if I’m remembering correctly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I won't engage with the "outraged" folks on ND about the dang trees. I love trees. I'd be pissed if APS was clearcutting everything, but they aren't. They are making sure the trees won't fall on houses or kids and adding back more than necessary. No one is going to stop the project. Oh, and as for the Westover flooding, APS is adding extra storm water retention to keep more onsite, therefore probably making more of a difference than the few trees that we regrettably lose.

You are afraid of trees falling on kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I won't engage with the "outraged" folks on ND about the dang trees. I love trees. I'd be pissed if APS was clearcutting everything, but they aren't. They are making sure the trees won't fall on houses or kids and adding back more than necessary. No one is going to stop the project. Oh, and as for the Westover flooding, APS is adding extra storm water retention to keep more onsite, therefore probably making more of a difference than the few trees that we regrettably lose.

You are afraid of trees falling on kids?

No. The root structure will be impacted enough with the pathways for universal design(you know, so everyone can enjoy the space) that arborists don’t think the trees will survive. Petitioners don’t care about universal design and refuse to acknowledge that the site will have more trees than required and will be keeping more water onsite. Doesn’t fit their narrative of a sneaky, evil developer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait! A new Safeway was shut down b/c Arlington wouldn't let the developer build it w/o affordable housing or because the developer wanted to add housing?

Because NIMBYS wanted new Safeway without any residential units. 3 blocks from a new target and a Harris Teeter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait! A new Safeway was shut down b/c Arlington wouldn't let the developer build it w/o affordable housing or because the developer wanted to add housing?

Because NIMBYS wanted new Safeway without any residential units. 3 blocks from a new target and a Harris Teeter.

And a giant surface parking lot for them to drive to. But SAVE THE TREES!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All APS option schools have “self-selecting” parents, but no option school has managed to close the socioeconomic achievement gap like ATS has. That, if nothing else, is ATS’s best feature. All students are high achieving there, not just the ones who would be anyway.

Oh come on. At Montessori, two-thirds of slots are reserved for families with incomes that are at or below 80 percent of Arlington’s median income. Let's see ATS put that in place and see how you do with achievement gap. Montessori does excellent, by the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All APS option schools have “self-selecting” parents, but no option school has managed to close the socioeconomic achievement gap like ATS has. That, if nothing else, is ATS’s best feature. All students are high achieving there, not just the ones who would be anyway.

Oh come on. At Montessori, two-thirds of slots are reserved for families with incomes that are at or below 80 percent of Arlington’s median income. Let's see ATS put that in place and see how you do with achievement gap. Montessori does excellent, by the way.

You dragged up a thread that’s been dead for two weeks just post that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All APS option schools have “self-selecting” parents, but no option school has managed to close the socioeconomic achievement gap like ATS has. That, if nothing else, is ATS’s best feature. All students are high achieving there, not just the ones who would be anyway.

Oh come on. At Montessori, two-thirds of slots are reserved for families with incomes that are at or below 80 percent of Arlington’s median income. Let's see ATS put that in place and see how you do with achievement gap. Montessori does excellent, by the way.

You dragged up a thread that’s been dead for two weeks just post that?

I assume they were looking for info based on last night school board meeting. Anything interesting come out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All APS option schools have “self-selecting” parents, but no option school has managed to close the socioeconomic achievement gap like ATS has. That, if nothing else, is ATS’s best feature. All students are high achieving there, not just the ones who would be anyway.

Oh come on. At Montessori, two-thirds of slots are reserved for families with incomes that are at or below 80 percent of Arlington’s median income. Let's see ATS put that in place and see how you do with achievement gap. Montessori does excellent, by the way.

Show us the stats for Arlington Montessori program over the years, including the demographic data. Compare ATS' FRL students with Montessori's FRL students. 80% median income is not the same student as a VPI or FRL student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All APS option schools have “self-selecting” parents, but no option school has managed to close the socioeconomic achievement gap like ATS has. That, if nothing else, is ATS’s best feature. All students are high achieving there, not just the ones who would be anyway.

Oh come on. At Montessori, two-thirds of slots are reserved for families with incomes that are at or below 80 percent of Arlington’s median income. Let's see ATS put that in place and see how you do with achievement gap. Montessori does excellent, by the way.

As someone who have direct inside knowledge, your statement is very mis-leading, ask APS to publish the real % of kids on free and reduced lunch at Montessori school and you'll see!! I can't say too much, but I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All APS option schools have “self-selecting” parents, but no option school has managed to close the socioeconomic achievement gap like ATS has. That, if nothing else, is ATS’s best feature. All students are high achieving there, not just the ones who would be anyway.

Oh come on. At Montessori, two-thirds of slots are reserved for families with incomes that are at or below 80 percent of Arlington’s median income. Let's see ATS put that in place and see how you do with achievement gap. Montessori does excellent, by the way.

As someone who have direct inside knowledge, your statement is very mis-leading, ask APS to publish the real % of kids on free and reduced lunch at Montessori school and you'll see!! I can't say too much, but I know.

New poster here, but whatever secret info you think you have isn’t a secret, or won’t be anyway, because in a month the FRL rate for Montessori at Henry will published along with every other school’s in APS. FWIW, I did the math during the boundary shift when APS released enough data to estimate the FRL for Montessori alone at Drew, without the graded program. I came up with 20-30 percent. I’d guess that’s what the numbers will show in October.