It's now easier to perform an abortion in the state of New York than to legally apply a tattoo.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Similar legislation has been proposed by Kathy Tran (D) in Virginia now.
It's sickening.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/42803/watch-virginia-democrats-propose-bill-allowing-ryan-saavedra

Here's the exchange between Todd Gilbert (R-Shenandoah) and Kathy Tran (D-Fairfax):

Gilbert: So how late in the third trimester would you be able to do that?

Tran: It’s very unfortunate that our physician witnesses were not able to attend today.

Gilbert: No, I’m talking about your bill. How late in the third trimester could a physician perform an abortion if he indicated it would impair the mental health of the woman?

Tran: Or physical health.

Gilbert: Okay. I’m talking about the mental health.

Tran: Through the third trimester. The third trimester goes all the way up to 40 weeks.

Gilbert: Okay. But to the end of the third trimester?

Tran: Yep. I don’t think we have a limit in the bill.

Gilbert: Where it’s obvious a woman is about to give birth, that she has physical signs that she is about to give birth. Would that be a point at which she could still request an abortion if she was so certified? She’s dilating.

Tran: Mr. Chairman, that would be a decision that the doctor, the physician, and the woman would make at that point.

Gilbert: I understand that. I’m asking if your bill allows that.

Tran: My bill would allow that, yes.


”Since this probably won’t be the last we see of that Kathy Tran abortion clip, here’s what her bill actually does.
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Third-trimester abortion is already legal in Virginia when the mother’s life or health is at risk. The bill loosens those restrictions. It doesnt say anything goes.”
- Graham Moomaw, the Richmond Times Dispatch


Right. What this bill would do is allow abortion in terrible cases, like this real world example: fetus has anecephaly (no brain) in late pregnancy. The position of the fetus is transverse, so cannot be delivered vaginally. Rather than having a c-section (threatening the mother's health and future pregnancies) she opts for an abortion.


That’s arguably the old bill. The new bill, by contrast, would permit 40th-week abortions in situations where the mother suffers even “[in]substantial[]” and “[]remediabl[e]” “mental...health” harms.

Your description is like defining “computer” to mean “a device for checking sports scores.” Literally true, but so specific and unrepresentative that, practically speaking, it’s wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don't think there is one person who gets all the way through a pregnancy, into labor and goes "Oh, never mind..."

I mean, yeah, I guess labor pains may make you think "what the hell did I get myself into?" because DAMN!

But, honestly, you people are making up scenarios in your heads that are not real life.

You have no clue, my friend.
Why did NY just make it legal to kill the baby minutes before the mother is about to go into labor???


In which cases can that be done? Be specific now.


NP. In cases where the mother's emotional health is at stake.


"Emotional Health" as in what exactly?
I'm not in a good mood today?

Anyone?
Anonymous
Child death on demand is barbaric.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I honestly don't think there is one person who gets all the way through a pregnancy, into labor and goes "Oh, never mind..."

I mean, yeah, I guess labor pains may make you think "what the hell did I get myself into?" because DAMN!

But, honestly, you people are making up scenarios in your heads that are not real life.

You have no clue, my friend.
Why did NY just make it legal to kill the baby minutes before the mother is about to go into labor???


In which cases can that be done? Be specific now.


NP. In cases where the mother's emotional health is at stake.


"Emotional Health" as in what exactly?
I'm not in a good mood today?

Anyone?


My grandmother suffered horrible psychosis while pregnant. Her children were taken away from her because of it and were forever traumatized.

I know someone else who committed suicide because pregnancy-induced depression.

Hormonal depression and psychosis are real things. Just ask Andrea Yates. Are you making fun of women who suffer from pre- and postnatal depression and psychosis?
Anonymous
How exactly is "emotional health" defined?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How exactly is "emotional health" defined?


By doctors. Not by you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How exactly is "emotional health" defined?


Well, under this bill, it would include “insubstantial[]” harms
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How exactly is "emotional health" defined?


By doctors. Not by you.


Again, HOW exactly is "emotional health" defined?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How exactly is "emotional health" defined?


By doctors. Not by you.


Again, HOW exactly is "emotional health" defined?


Doctors get to decide. Why don't you ask some?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How exactly is "emotional health" defined?


By doctors. Not by you.


It’s a medical decision between a woman and her doctor. END OF STORY.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How exactly is "emotional health" defined?


By doctors. Not by you.


It’s a medical decision between a woman and her doctor. END OF STORY.




Just show him the money, and you're good to go!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How exactly is "emotional health" defined?


By doctors. Not by you.


It’s a medical decision between a woman and her doctor. END OF STORY.




Just show him the money, and you're good to go!


Who's making stuff up?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How exactly is "emotional health" defined?


By doctors. Not by you.


It’s a medical decision between a woman and her doctor. END OF STORY.





This. If you don't think you want or need an abortion, don't get one. Carry that severely ill baby to term, talk to your doctor, make your own decisions.

Don't be a coward and have government make your decisions for you. At least that's what conservatives usuay want.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How exactly is "emotional health" defined?


By doctors. Not by you.


It’s a medical decision between a woman and her doctor. END OF STORY.




Just show him the money, and you're good to go!


Who's making stuff up?


It sounds more and more like a BUSINESS decision for the abortion doctors. What doctor says no to a "procedure" the pays BIG bucks? Abortion doctors ain't going it for free. Believe me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How exactly is "emotional health" defined?


By doctors. Not by you.


It’s a medical decision between a woman and her doctor. END OF STORY.




Just show him the money, and you're good to go!


Who's making stuff up?


It sounds more and more like a BUSINESS decision for the abortion doctors. What doctor says no to a "procedure" the pays BIG bucks? Abortion doctors ain't going it for free. Believe me.


Okay, since you used caps, you must be right.
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